Joeslogic said... I'm inclined to agree with you on that, but if it were to happen in the near future it wouldn't be as likely. I think everyone lost quite a bit of confidence in the federal government after Katrina, and that's a good thing. The government is a giant beast, slow to move and reluctant to change. Also incompetent, but that's another issue entirely.
No, the government can't be a dick because it's not alive. The people in it are the problem. The problems exist because they want them to.
Smurf, you would do better with your theories if you found the motive. What’s the motive for dragging feet in the case of Katrina? Then couple in the fact that there was no foot dragging in the first place. The authorities were working on helping Biloxi, Gulfport, Gulf shores. This took clearing out debris to be able to get to the people in need in the first place when like two days layer the levee broke over in New Orleans which previous to this by comparison had received minor damage. You like the majority are falling for a smoke and mirrors scheme that would have you believe that Friday night all of New Orleans was under water and the feds did not care till days later. That’s simply not true. Then you got the media capitalizing on the issue for maximum GW damage. What’s the motive for dragging feet? Don’t tell me it was for the purpose of buying the land on the cheep. That land was not worth a crap before the hurricane in the first place and if you have ever been to the big easy you know it was a shit hole in the first place. There is absolutely no gain to be had. Much less to mention the fact that no one even knew the hurricane was going to hit until when it happened. There is a huge conspiracy story true enough and the story is how the local politicians have bled the federal government for Millions in federal money to make the Dikes stronger. And all of this always resulting in million dollar studies by engineering companies who contribute to the official’s campaign funds but zero actual work. Where are the people up in arms about this? Why is this fact being blackballed by the media? One simple reason the elected officials in question are Democrats. Wake up and smell the coffee.
No I think there both guilty. On the specific issue of New Orleans Democrats were the main perpetrators. And as a general rule Dems are the big pork barrel spenders. But that does not mean the Reps are not guilty also. While at the same time fact is it simple logic also that which ever party yields the most power Senate or House will get the most lobby money. That always been the case and probably always will be.
I agree, but I don't think one party is more prone to pork barrel spending than the other. Republicans dump money into corporations, democrats waste money on social programs. One of the areas with the most pork is military and defense spending, so let's not pin this on democrats. Transportation bills get a huge amount of pork as well. An Alaskan republican just got $254,000,000 out of this years transportation bill. The fact of the matter is whichever party controls congress spends the most pork. 12 years ago the democrats were spending most of the pork, now it's the republicans.
You're an idiot Joe. This was the most blatant example of foot dragging we've seen in decades, with every major news network and reporter in the area asking "Why isn't help here?" weeks after the incident, and you say something as stupid as that. God damn you're what's wrong with America. They got you convinced 2 + 2 = 5. Just like in Oklahoma, there was one fertilizer bomb, they said it was 5,000 lbs. No, wait, that's impossible, then they said 50,000 lbs. Eyewitnesses say they heard 3 blasts? Nonsense. Move along. Like the idiot you are you say: No ass, I was watching the news, they were under water the morning following the hurricane. Whose smoke and mirrors? EVERYONE was saying what the hell is going on? Not just the media. NOTHING happened, and the FEDs are throwing up the I dunno excuse just like everyone else. Criminal negligence went down, and that's a damn fact. There's no smoke and mirrors about it you damn fucking idiot. GOD I'M PISSED. I HATE EVERYTHING!!!!1!!! If the point was to piss people off and get them asking questions then I think they failed, because what the fuck, nobody gives a shit anymore. The whole smoke and mirrors was convincing people the levees broke because of the hurricane and that the lack of response was because of lack of communication. Everyone ate that shit up. The real people who cared were those on the ground and in the superdome wondering why weeks after the shit went down there still wasn't any help. The investigations into this criminal negligence won't get the answers they need in time to beat this depression that's coming this year, and at that point nobody will give a damn about anything other than surviving in this post-crash world. The motive goes hand in hand with believing the hurricane was not of natural cause in the first place and that it's all part of a larger plan, but I know you don't believe anything anyways. So it's pointless arguing with you. You just don't see it yet, and won't until it's going down live. Wake up and smell the bullshit. Some of the dumbest things I have ever heard were in that last post of yours. At least I got UCICARE here to vouch for me that I'm batty. You're just an idiot.
I like to think that the elected officials in the Republican party are held to a higher standard of ethics. For example look at the Independent parties generally being the party that spoiled it for the reps. No one takes the Green party seriously and Clinton was the first president to take office on less than the majority vote that I can remember thanks to Ross Perot. For the most part the Independent party exists due to complaints about Republicans departure from their core principals. While trying to get a grasp on the reporting style of that female journalist hostage. I looked up the Christian Science Monitor and found an interesting article. This one seemed to be objective enough and was on the very subject of government spending. For your reading pleasure: http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0123/p25s01-cogn.html
The new spin from the right, that Joe is kind enough to bring to our attention is interesting. Its quite telling that the corporate takeover of media can be sold as a "leftist" plot and bought as a "dolchenstoss" legend when they need a scapegoat. Makes one wonder about the "reichstagsbrann" in the twin towers as well. Joe ! I know US media is full of shit. That is not synonymous with socialism. Big corporations controll your industry and sets policies. These are not socialist. The libraryservice is not big enough to twist media in a "socialist" way. By insisting on this crazy interpratation of worldevents you americans sink further into the mud. There is a reason the average american know close to nothing about theworld you know. And NO, thats not a socialist plot. The communists have NOT taken washington :wink:
The collapse of the U.S. economy is imminent With all the hateful, sadistic Americans running around these days, it sucks that this is coming so soon. It's gonna be so crazy when that shit hits, and things will never be the same again... goodbye, not-so-good-but-better-than-what's-to-be life, hello rapin and pillagin and killin and killin and killin...
But Xerx you should check out the Christian Science Monitor Artical that I previously posted it illistrates this point. I mean this is in my opinion why the right has gave up there persuit of less welfare transfer programs. They know the media has brainwashed the public enough even though they understand the damage it does. They have compromised instead of letting the left completely take over. http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0123/p25s01-cogn.html
Smurf, my wife works for Compass bank (Executive position) (See # 3) She just laughed and shook her head. "hello rapin and pillagin and killin and killin and killin..." ?????????? Come on Smurf. No kidding. Go to the Doctor. I bet a weeks worth of Seroquil will cure the paranoias, and then you can get a job again and support your family. Your kids need a rational Father. I don't doubt that some of the stuff you post has SOME truth in in. The problem is the EXTREME predictions that you make. It is just not healthy. Any time the pendulum swings too far in either direction, it points to a problem. Go get your pendulum fixed dude. You will be glad you did. Barry
Hi Joe ! How can the left take over , when its all owned by big corporations ? Last i checked. Big capital was a bit to the right of left. If you know what i mean ? Media brainwashed you ? Might be, but i still dont see no commies hiding there. You might find a hoover in the closet though Lets quote ! "the era of big government is far from over. Trends are decidedly in favor of that quintessential leftist goal: massive redistribution of wealth". What a dung ! Quintessential leftist ? How about quintessential christian ? They just gave a trill to warfare faaaar away, and then, using a much smaller sum on medicine and education is supposedly bad :cry: Never heard those "christians" cry out when WP was used in Falujah If HE had not risen, he would turn in his grave. They are just a bunch of hypocritical blasfemers. But lets repeat. THE SOVIET BLOCK DID NOT CONTROL US MEDIA. YOUR CORPORATIONS AND GOVERNMENT DID ! And they never were, are not, and most likely never will be socialist. Government is not the same as socialism. Using a trillion or two on wars does not make your govenrment socialist. GWB is not your typical "bleeding-heart liberal.
Naturally some disinformation has to fly out there, so that when regular stupid folk go and ask their bank tellers if #3 is true, they'll laugh and be like what? come on now... Then the person will be like "Man, what was I thinking?" and feel stupid for having even asked. Silly me put the dumbest of all articles to post about this coming depression, though, and I'm sorry I put it through your thick skull that it wasn't going to be. That's just a tidbit, you still got housing, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac ready to implode under a wave of defaults that increased 13% in december and probably with criminal overtones, the derivatives failures that would spawn from that and take down many, many banks, the fact that so many banks are merging makes me think they're trying to get themselves "too big to fail" and thus get a government bailout, energy costs doubled last year, bankruptcies up, jobs down, we're gonna be monetizing our own debts through hedge funds which is why we're eliminating M3, we're being de-indrustrialized, so much else. Everything is on a tight-rope right now, and somethings gotta give soon. You can only introduce so much perversity into the system before it goes kapoot. The system's broken, I'm trying to tell you guys, so you see I care? You're apethy borders on criminal negligence.
Well Xerx it’s true like I said this is not new news to me. I have commonly on this forum here been accused of being a Republican and I generally agree that I would be if the Reps would go back to being conservative on there interpretation of the Constitution and defending its core principals as well as being conservative in fiscal policy. That article illustrates the point. And with all due respect your numbers are not correct.
I'd really like to see the Republicans get back to the core values of minding their own fucking business as well. The republican party isn't going to get shit done until they split with the religious right, dumb shits like Pat Robertson, Timothy Lehay, and those bunch of fuck offs. Religion and politics don't mix, and until the republicans learn that then the constitution is nothing more than something they use to wipe their ass while they read the bible.
I feel rather bitter and angry, but since I'm so fucked up in the head most of the time anyway it's really hard to gauge if I'm having a bad day or not.
Have you noticed all the pictures of this wacko Iranian fuck are with that same shit eating grin? Can you imagine doing an interview where he stands there with that stupid look on his face along with the people behind him? Mike Wallace gave him a royal ass kissing complete with tongue action on this interview. I bet his 80 year old bung hole was wet with anticipation that he might be able to take it up the ass from this guy if he pleased him enough.
