The only problem with this logic is that criminals arent going to care about gun laws. The only people it would have any influence over is the honest law abiding citizen.
That's pretty profound. I agree. That's why I say we should ban whiskey and legalize pot. That's like the saying, "locks keep honest people out." We have a war on drugs and a war on terrorism. If we have a war on war, what could be the outcome?
I just saw some of the video that the shooter sent to the media. He planned this in advance. He sounds like a Korean Napoleon Dynamite as he speaks to the camera as if it is his nemesis. He was out to top Columbine.
that's just the thing... if you make guns virtually impossible to get the only criminals with them will be the most serious kind.... as an example i can cite canada's situation, a gun on the streets goes for no less than 1000$ and goes up depending on caliber, age, condition etc... to obtain a gun legally is a hassle so most people don't go through it..... the number of illegal guns on the street is hardly enough to meet the demand of every poser or wanna be thug and the guns we do have are either stolen from collectors or, like the vast majority is, smuggled from the states.... so you see gun laws directly impact the criminals with regard to availability, the vast majority of crime is petty and unorganized and if you make guns too expensive to be worth it by limiting supply you greatly decrease the percentage of those that can even afford one.... o fcourse for this to work you'd also have to confiscate a lot of guns.... so it's not really an option for the US
The Shooter killed for the purpose of assisting the radical left by giving them what they wanted. A policy of showing the world his manifesto. Air time is at a premium and while the media is more than happy to seek out Susan Sorandon, Shean Pen, or some other Hollywood idiot to have them tell you their opinion. It is imposable for someone to get any airtime otherwise. So giving this guy what he wanted is telling all the other wackos out there you can to do the same.
He was a schizophrenic. The lack of talking to anyone was probably a negative sign of schizophrenia and was part of the premorbid signs that are usually there before the psychotic break. Littel info about schizophrenia: Signs and symptoms Signs and symptoms of schizophrenia may include: Delusions — personal beliefs not based in reality, such as paranoia that you're being persecuted or conspired against Bizarre delusions — for example, a belief in Martians controlling your thoughts Hallucinations — sensing things that don't exist, such as imaginary voices Incoherence Lack of emotions or inappropriate display of emotions A persistent feeling of being watched Trouble functioning at work or in social situations Social isolation Difficulty with personal hygiene Clumsy, uncoordinated movements Generally, schizophrenia causes a slowly progressive deterioration in the ability to function in various roles, especially in your job and personal life. The signs and symptoms of schizophrenia vary greatly. A person may behave differently at different times. He or she may become extremely agitated and distressed, or fall into a trance-like, immobile, unresponsive (catatonic) state, or even behave normally much of the time. Signs and symptoms that occur continuously and progressively may indicate schizophrenia. In general, schizophrenia has symptoms that fall into three categories — negative, positive and cognitive: Negative signs and symptoms Negative signs and symptoms may appear early in the disease, and a person may not think he or she needs treatment. They're referred to as negative because they indicate a loss of behavior or of a personality trait. Negative signs generally accompany a slow deterioration of function, leading to your becoming less sociable. Such signs may include: Dulled emotions (lack of expression) Inappropriate emotions (laughing while expressing terrifying images) A change in speech (speaking in a dull monotone) Positive signs and symptoms Positive signs include hallucinations and delusions. They're called positive because they indicate a trait or behavior that's been added to the personality. Hallucinations. Hallucinations occur when you sense things that don't exist. The most common hallucination in schizophrenia is hearing voices. You may carry on a conversation with voices that no one else can hear. Or you may perceive that voices are providing you instructions on what to do. Hallucinations may result in injuries to other people. Delusions. Delusions are firmly held personal beliefs that have no basis in reality. The most common subtype of schizophrenia is paranoid schizophrenia, in which you hold irrational beliefs that others are persecuting you or conspiring against you. For example, some people with schizophrenia may believe that the television is directing their behavior or that outside forces are controlling their thoughts. Cognitive signs and symptoms These signs and symptoms tend to be more subtle than positive and negative ones. Cognitive signs and symptoms may include: Problems making sense of incoming information Difficulty paying attention Memory problems Misconceptions about schizophrenia Schizophrenia may exist alone or in combination with other psychiatric or medical conditions. Misconceptions about schizophrenia and its relation to other mental illnesses abound. The following truths will help clarify what it is and is not: Schizophrenia isn't the same as a split or multiple personality. Multiple personality disorder is a separate, rare condition. Although some people with schizophrenia develop violent tendencies, most don't. Many withdraw into themselves rather than interact with others. Not everyone who acts paranoid or distrustful has schizophrenia. Some people have a paranoid personality disorder, a tendency to be suspicious or distrustful of others, without the other features of schizophrenia. Not everyone who hears voices is schizophrenic. Some people with depression may hear voices. Hearing voices may also occur as a result of a serious medical illness or from the effects of medication. Substance abuse and schizophrenia While not necessarily a sign of schizophrenia, drug abuse is more common in people with schizophrenia. Nicotine is a commonly abused drug by people with schizophrenia; it's estimated that 75 percent to 90 percent of people with schizophrenia smoke compared with about one-quarter of the general population. Unfortunately some drugs, such as amphetamines, cocaine and marijuana, can make schizophrenia symptoms worse. Others, such as nicotine, can interfere with schizophrenia medications. © 1998-2007 Mayo Foundation for Medical Education and Research. All rights reserved.
If we are to believe the emerging timeline of events, Cho Seung-Hui killed a woman and her RA in a dorm, went back to his dorm and captured a QuickTime video rant, burned a DVD, trekked to the post office with two 9mm weapons in tow, mailed the DVD, along with photos and miscellaneous writings to NBC, and then marched over to Norris Hall and killed another thirty or so people execution-style. Add to this a bevy of “experts” on television this evening declaring Cho Seung-Hui to be obviously paranoid schizophrenic. Excuse me, but paranoid schizophrenics, minus medication, have a difficult time stitching two coherent sentences together, let alone methodically engaging in homicide, managing to escape undetected, and then recording thoughts after the fact and conjuring up the wherewithal to send out a press release. I’m not buying it. But what I can buy, or at least entertain, is the possibility Cho Seung-Hui is, for lack of a better term, a Manchurian Candidate. Do a Google search on Project Bluebird, the very real CIA experiments in brainwashing and multiple personality engineering. “BLUEBIRD was approved by the CIA director on April 20, 1950. In August 1951, the Project was renamed ARTICHOKE. BLUEBIRD and ARTICHOKE included a great deal of work on the creation of amnesia, hypnotic couriers, and the Manchurian Candidate,” writes Colin A. Ross, MD. “ARTICHOKE documents prove that hypnotic couriers functioned effectively in real-life simulations conducted by the CIA in the early 1950’s. The degree to which such individuals were used in actual operations is still classified…. BLUEBIRD and ARTICHOKE were administered in a compartmented fashion. The details of the programs were kept secret even form other personnel within the CIA…. The BLUEBIRD/ARTICHOKE materials establish conclusively that full Manchurian Candidates were created and tested successfully by physicians with TOP SECRET clearance from the CIA…. As well as being potential couriers and infiltration agents, the subjects could function in effect as hypnotically controlled cameras. They could enter a room or building, memorize materials quickly, leave the building, and then be amnesic for the entire episode. The memorized material could then be retrieved by a handler using a previously implanted code or signal, without the amnesia being disturbed. Hypnosis was not the mind control doctors’ only method for creation of controlled amnesia, however. Drugs, magnetic fields, sound waves, sleep deprivation, solitary confinement, and many other methods were studied under BLUEBIRD and ARTHICHOKE.” Before you write me off as another tinfoil hat nut case, consider this document, released from the CIA under an FOIA request. In part, the document states: “Miss [redacted] was instructed (having expressed a fear of firearms) that she would use every method at her disposal to awaken Miss [redacted] (now in a deep hypnotic sleep). Failing this, she would pick up a pistol and fire it at Miss [redacted]. She was instructed that she would not hesitate to “kill” [redacted]. Miss [redacted] carried out these suggestions including firing the (unloaded) gun at [redacted] and then proceeded to fall into a deep sleep. After proper suggestions were made, both were awakened. Miss [redacted] expressed absolute denial that the foregoing sequence had happened.” Of course, the existence of Project Bluebird and the search for Manchurian Candidate is hardly conclusive evidence Cho Seung-Hui was a programmed murder zombie. On the other hand, the picture painted by the corporate media, that Cho Seung-Hui was simply a mentally deranged and violent loner who stalked women and wrote disjointed plays does not make sense, especially considering his reported proficiency with handguns and the series of methodical tasks he accomplished soon after gunning down two people in cold blood. Either way, the largest massacre in American history, carried out on the campus of a prestigious engineering school, will certainly jack up the fear ratio—to say nothing of launch yet another salvo at the Bill of Rights, two things certain to please our control freak rulers. http://kurtnimmo.com/?p=835
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Seriously. The 'interpretations' of the Second Amendment make me sick to my stomach. Not only that, but the idea that citizens should pay for a 'license' to carry what was clearly outlined in the founding laws of our country as a fundamental right of every citizen here is enough to make me go out and shoot someone. Seriously, though - it does piss me off. What kind of logic supersedes the fact that if you outlaw guns - ONLY THE 'OUTLAWS' WILL HAVE THEM!?! Face it - guns will ALWAYS be available. This will never change. What can, will, and already has changed (should these illogical anti-gun fanatics continue to get their way), is the availability of firearms to the average, law abiding citizen. I hate to sound like a bumper sticker (again), but I can't think of a better way to end this: Guns don't kill people - People kill people. Remember that.
Yes, Smiles, what I said was extreme. I don't really believe that we should arm everyone to the teeth. I am just trying to show that gun control only controls the guns that honest and sane people have. If a nut or criminal wants a gun, they will have it. Laws can't stop violence.
