I think he had custody or it was shared. I haven't talked to his sister in a while to ask her. I do know that he raised the son after she died.
Good questions at first Grim but now you getting off track. The description of the cause of death clearly makes it a crime of passion. Also it is not easy especially 20 years ago for the father to get custody of the child. In most courts it is virtually impossible unless the mother is a prostitute crack head without a home offering to raise the child in a shopping cart. And the father on the other hand is an upstanding citizen blah blah. So now I'm wandering very much who was given custody of this child because it tell much about the personality of the girl that goes five hours across the state to go to a bar to play like Sarah Tobias (see movie "The Accused" by Jodie Foster) to make a guy jealous. Actually it makes "Crime of Passion more likely for all suspects including the ex who is the father. Bringing up the politically incorrect observation that the dead girl may have been a tramp may not be popular but it is important regardless while faming the situation. The defense is right to a great extent if the abduction was just that an abduction in the parking lot. (I have my doubts) then the time frame for teenagers to hang out at the field does not match the crime time frame and anyone in their right mind living there (small town) would know the risk of being seen. (unless that is it was pure unadulterated and mindless passion) Possibly a more likely scenario would be that the girl went with someone willingly and the show/slipper or whatever were planted to make the crime look like a crime of passion. I would like to know more about this “a police officer did it” theory. Basically because a corrupt officer is a damn smart criminal and knows how to stage a crime scene to make it look how he likes. Beating of the upper torso like that strangulation to that extent seems to indicate a crime of passion or a really cold and ruthless psychopath making it look like a crime of passion. If the jock had a psych profile to match a woman hater then even a rookie investigator should pick up on that same for the ex. I’m wondering about daddy. But then I’m feeling no pain right now and only browsed through the whole thread.
Joe I'm not straying a bit. Custody of a child is a serious matter. Also the ex would had to have known her issues and their might have been passion there depending on who left who. An ex-husband is a bigger red flag then any boyfriend or anything when a child is involved.
Actually you are right I think on all those point I just think you missed out on a serious and major point and that is as to the personality of the victim. She could be a major antagonist who from a relationship perspective (several men involved here) has the predatory approach and pretty much the sociopath. This is the kind of person that shrugs off their child to the father in search of new victims only to become one herself and yes at the same time makes the father of the baby more of a suspect. Or on the other hand she could be one of those dependent types that seek out what they perceive as the strong type (actually the manipulative type) and is always ending up the victim and running from a lunatic. The last of which would make her last night all the more confusing. The question of who was awarded custody of the child usually says loads about the mother. At least if she looses custody.
I haven't talked to her former sister-in-law in over a year, but I'll try sending her an email and find out. I do know that he did raise him after she died and apparently remarried the day she was murdered.
Bingo, oh and Joe I didn't bring that up cause I didn't know if she was related to the OP or not I was trying to be nice.
That's a heck of an anniversary reminder. I still think it points to the BF/Fiance. It sucks that they didnt put in the time to investigate him properly. He'll be a 79 year old man on his death bed and confess to doing it.
The ex husbands wife talked the ex husband into doing the deed. She wanted a kid and could not he did not wanbt to see his sone raised in that environment. She was using the kid as a manipulation tool against both of them.
I saw the "jock" Saturday. I stared at him hard and he looked back confused, so I finally got a good look at his face. Then last night, I had a dream about him in which I met him and asked him if he killed her and when I looked into his eyes, they were like piano keys with one broken key (have no clue what that means) and I told him that I didn't think he did it. Then this morning, I get in my car positive that I am going to see him on my way to work and sure enough, I did. I stared at him again and he stared back... this time he looked cocky. He probably thinks I have the hots for him, but oh, well.
I think you got the hots for the cocky dangerous type. I think you're fascinated with the whole crime because you picture yourself as possibly ending up like the victim. I'm not saying that as an insult and I could be wrong but this the vibe I get from you.
That is disgusting. I'm not a Richard Ramirez loving cunt. I have often thought of going into law enforcement (the real deal, not a "P.I.") but I hate people and don't want to have to touch dirty criminals.
Yeah, I want my fucking face bashed in, my jaw broken, my adam's apple crushed, my liver and spleen ruptured, raped and strangled. Get a life. I wanted this thread to be taken seriously. I want the dickhead who thinks that they got away with murder to get caught.
I believe that much. And as for what I said apparently you misunderstood what I meant. The chick that was killed did not want it either. I've seen dead people and know that for the most part you can disassociate yourself from the situation much easier (crimes against children or rape, torture are an exception) if the person has no common characteristics to yourself. On the other hand if the persons demeanor, habits, environment etc. are like that of yourself it really sticks and can screw with your head. No offense intended I could be totally wrong.
