To Bully the scientific community to validate bugus theory

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  1. XerxesX

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    But the gross inefficiency of plural commercial sciencepods competing for a break. Thats why the sovjets put up such a fight against the industrially and demographically superior capitalist empires. The pooled the resources.

    I don`t like reminding people of hese facts anymore. Better to forget and make mythshat are easy to live with. BUT That paperschmearerBoortz quoted by Joegoes Harumph:

    Fucking little mediocre shit. Sometimes I just hate how easy they get it just for having less sensory input and a coarser sensory output.

    If they put the money of these energyfunds in universitybased research, you would get an international synergy. Petty goldgrubbers :evil:

    GOVERNMENT SCHOOLS ???

    Even in USA the best schools are run by the government.
    I thought you were the nation with pride in lawenforcement and military strength :
     
  2. Joeslogic

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    Exactly and this is why capitalism wins it will be the greedy big oil companies who possibly due to their own greedy reasons will come up with an answer. A profitable one at that. You watch and see.

    Xerx. Private schooled kids and especially home schooled kids are heads and shoulders above public schooled kids. Really I'm not kidding they are Waaaaaaaaay ahead of the game they make public schools look like massive special education classes full of retards.
     
  3. diogenes

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    That's because the testing they do for public schools doesn't factor in special educational kids. They just lump them in with the rest of the general population. It would be interesting to see how public schools stack up if they were to account properly for that.

    As for Capitalism winning, Capitalism paves the way for the next step in production. Marx said it would be communism that would follow capitalism. I don't know that he's right, but he had some interesting points. I don't think capitalism will go anywhere in my lifetime though. The world is too big of a place for all of the world to establish the means of production necessary for communism.
     
  4. XerxesX

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    Hmm! No! I beat the crap out of anybody, wether the be private or public. I am trained by people working for governments.
    ( Canadian, US, Diff European etc. )
    Your best guns are allso trained by the government. Wether they be FBI, CIA, NSA or any other. You cant beat a thorough public education. No way Joe. Those trained by private sources come up as shit and they are a liability.
     
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    Use spelling B's as an example Look at spelling b's over the last 20 years and see who has won public or private schooled. Its amazing truely it is Xerx. It is a loosing arguement the position you are taking.
     
  6. diogenes

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    Spelling competition is an incredibly narrow endeavor. I bet if you took a poll of olympic figure skaters you would find that most of them went to a private school as well. You're falsely transfering properties.
     
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    I figured that was coming. There are SAT scores as well. As for the Spelling b's it is the maddening difference in the numbers that is so compelling. A tiny percent of the academic community simply stomps all over the rest, I am speaking specifically of home schooled kids if the numbers I remember hearing are accurate.
     
  8. diogenes

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    I would think that would be a product of specific training. If home schooled children as a whole outperformed publicly schooled children then you would see the impact of that. When you're talking about public schools they also factor in continuation schools and special ed, which throws the averages off. I've yet to see statistics that account for that. Until I do I'm not going to draw any conclusions.
     
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    Google homeschooling statistics start at the top and work your way down.
     
  10. diogenes

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    Nah, I've got liquor to drink. What have you got going tonight.
     
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    Damn it is 0100 I guess I better start trying to wind down.
     
  13. XerxesX

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    Private securitys best officers are former government. All and one. The same goes for mercenaries. Government-trained. And then you have the soviet school system. They punched out elite scientists at a rate, any country would have a problem to match. Nothing wrong with their research either.

    Basically; even though the money-elite can buy the best teachers, trying to create an elite education. They cant compete with governmental elite education.
    ( This is not to say that they cant weaken public education and society in general ).
    My kid goes to a private school, but thats beside the point :lol:
    Home-education sounds good. And the might excell academically ( If you say so ). Still, since these kids are likely to end up with an amputated worldview, ( Like creationism ), and without the social skills learned in school, they still loose.

    Ofcourse ! If the schoolsystem is fucked through underfunding its a problem.

    By the way. They are really god out there. The teachers and all. Its a waldorf-school and it is hereby recomended. ( Check individual tuors ofcourse )

    Still GovEdu beats Private. Its just that Gov has a broad responsibility and cant cater to that many "elites". Aka planetkilling moneygrubbers that create wars that Joes buddies have to go and get mauled in.
     
  14. XerxesX

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    Private securitys best officers are former government. All and one. The same goes for mercenaries. Government-trained. And then you have the soviet school system. They punched out elite scientists at a rate, any country would have a problem to match. Nothing wrong with their research either.

    Basically; even though the money-elite can buy the best teachers, trying to create an elite education. They cant compete with governmental elite education.
    ( This is not to say that they cant weaken public education and society in general ).
    My kid goes to a private school, but thats beside the point :lol:
    Home-education sounds good. And the might excell academically ( If you say so ). Still, since these kids are likely to end up with an amputated worldview, ( Like creationism ), and without the social skills learned in school, they still loose.

    Ofcourse ! If the schoolsystem is fucked through underfunding its a problem.

    By the way. They are really god out there. The teachers and all. Its a waldorf-school and it is hereby recomended. ( Check individual tuors ofcourse )

    Still GovEdu beats Private. Its just that Gov has a broad responsibility and cant cater to that many "elites". Aka planetkilling moneygrubbers that create wars that Joes buddies have to go and get mauled in.
     
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    We are spending multiple times more money per capita than we did 30 years ago and getting less results with more money. Some have speculated that this is by design the Deliberate Dumbing Down of America
     
  16. diogenes

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    Or it could be the product of an idiotic policy that states if you lower standards kids will feel better about themselves and they'll perform better. An assinign idea from the sixties that is just now beginning to die. The ACLU is fighting exit exams for schooling, but they'll lose in the long run. The U.S.A. can't continue it's slide in education. And throwing money at the problem isn't going to solve it. Neither is privatizing education.
     
  17. XerxesX

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    Joe wrote
    It is the deliberate dumbing down of america, by capitalsim, through commercials.
    Since baby-hood their brains have been stuffed with senseless information about products that have no place in the broader picture. I see it in europe as well. When childrens programmes are nothing more than deliverysystem for the next plastic-toy. Brains are bombarded with information that makes you dumb. Dumb. DUMB.
     
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    Could not agree more except that is for the last sentenance. However privatizing the system is not the only answer. Proper public education would be fine but that ACLU you mentioned as well as the teachers union has far to tight of a grip. The problems of the public education system will never be addressed because the media will never inform the public as to what is going on. The general public will always be told that the problem is we wre not warm and fuzzy enough and do not give the schools enough money.

    True to an extent. Problem is both parents work these days, if mom were home watching the little kids instead of letting the TV babysit the children than that would not be a problem either would it? That's a legitimate problem but one with an easy answer. I remember one hot summer in Texas me and my two brothers sitting around the house. My day took all the tv's and placed them in the attic. All of a sudden the house was the last place we desired to be. It was the pool, biking, playing war games and building forts in the woods. Whatever we could get into. It turned out to be fun actually.
     
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