So what was the biggest news event to occur this week?

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  1. Joeslogic

    Joeslogic Active Member

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    I think if it had been privatized there would not be a problem. It’s the bureaucracy that’s the problem. But for a lesson on propaganda I would say just watch the coverage. But it’s been upstaged however. John Stossel had it pretty much correct.
    January 4, 2006
    Government: The Real Thug in New York
    By John Stossel



    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/Commentary/com-1_4_06_JS.html

    But since this is about the propaganda involved with the NSA monitoring of people known to be communicating with terrorists. I'll throw a prediction at you. The current patsy that there using as smokescreen to shield the members of the intelligence committee that actually are the ones who leaked the classified information. It does make for a tantalizing story though. Ex employee fired a years ago with associations to known liar Joe Wilson, and CIA desk jockey Vallery Plame. Fact of the matter is its democrats that have access to this classified information simply by way of there appointment to committee position. The alleged "whistle blower" as I understand it sent two e-mails or letters to two ranking members of congress both coincidentally republican members airing his grief’s at the same time at the times broke the story they had been sitting on for a year. That’s pure unadulterated (as we say in Texas) BULL SHIT. I can smell from miles away.
    And it to cover the real Benedict Arnold (famous American traitor)
    Who knows maybe that scumbag girl raping and murdering Kennedy. Whoever it is the media is protecting the person.
     
  2. Joeslogic

    Joeslogic Active Member

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    Since we are talking about propaganda we surely cannot miss this big whopper it would be like missing the fact that there was a turd floating in the punch bowl.

    As quoted from gopsenators.com

    Forty of forty five members of the Democrat Senate Caucus took money from Jack Abramoff, his associates, and Indian tribe clients. Below is a breakdown of how much each Democrat Senator received:

    http://www.gopsenators.com/hottopics/glasshouses_senate.aspx
     
  3. Joeslogic

    Joeslogic Active Member

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    Holy Shit !

    The Media lables Abramoff a republical sweetheart? Looks like he spreads it evenly accross the power spectrum.

    From: http://newsbusters.org/node/3465

    National Republican Congressional Cmte $478,000

    National Republican Senatorial Cmte $436,500

    Democratic Senatorial Campaign Cmte $423,480

    Democratic Congressional Campaign Cmte $354,700

    Republican National Cmte $326,000

    J. D. Hayworth (R-Ariz) $101,620

    Dennis Hastert (R-Ill) $69,000

    Democratic National Cmte $65,720

    Thad Cochran (R-Miss) $65,500

    Conrad Burns (R-Mont) $59,590

    Richard Pombo (R-Calif) $54,500

    Jim McCrery (R-La) $52,750

    2002 President's Dinner Cmte $50,000

    John T. Doolittle (R-Calif) $50,000

    Patrick J. Kennedy (D-RI) $42,500

    Patty Murray (D-Wash) $40,980

    Don Nickles (R-Okla) $40,000

    Charles B. Rangel (D-NY) $36,000

    Dave Camp (R-Mich) $35,500

    John Boehner (R-Ohio) $32,500

    Hal Rogers (R-Ky) $32,000

    Bob Ney (R-Ohio) $31,500

    Tom DeLay (R-Texas) $30,500

    Harry Reid (D-Nev) $30,500

    Billy Tauzin (R-La) $30,500

    Denny Rehberg (R-Mont) $30,000

    Byron L. Dorgan (D-ND) $28,000

    Tom Daschle (D-SD) $26,500

    Charles H. Taylor (R-NC) $25,750

    Democratic Party of Michigan $23,000

    Trent Lott (R-Miss) $22,000

    Roger Wicker (R-Miss) $21,600

    Mary Bono (R-Calif) $21,500

    James M. Inhofe (R-Okla) $21,500

    Brad R. Carson (D-Okla) $20,600

    Pete Sessions (R-Texas) $20,500

    Republican Party of New Hampshire $20,000

    Don Young (R-Alaska) $19,708

    Dale E. Kildee (D-Mich) $19,000

    Mitch McConnell (R-Ky) $18,500

    Steny H. Hoyer (D-Md) $17,500

    Charles W. "Chip" Pickering Jr. (R-Miss) $17,500

    Jack Kingston (R-Ga) $17,000

    Tom Harkin (D-Iowa) $15,500

    Jerry Weller (R-Ill) $15,500

    Democratic Party of Oklahoma $15,000

    Chris John (D-La) $15,000

    Republican Party of Mississippi $15,000

    Ralph Regula (R-Ohio) $14,500

    Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) $14,000

    John Breaux (D-La) $13,750

    Frank Pallone, Jr (D-NJ) $13,600

    Spencer Abraham (R-Mich) $13,000

    Eric Cantor (R-Va) $13,000

    Christopher S. 'Kit' Bond (R-Mo) $12,500

    Randy "Duke" Cunningham (R-Calif) $12,500

    Dana Rohrabacher (R-Calif) $12,500

    Gordon H. Smith (R-Ore) $12,500

    George W. Bush (R) $12,000

    Ben Nighthorse Campbell (R-Colo) $12,000

    Richard A. Gephardt (D-Mo) $12,000

    Judd Gregg (R-NH) $12,000

    Mary L. Landrieu (D-La) $11,500

    Ted Stevens (R-Alaska) $11,500

    Barney Frank (D-Mass) $11,100

    Max Baucus (D-Mont) $11,000

    Tom Petri (R-Wis) $11,000

    Chris Cannon (R-Utah) $10,000

    Maria Cantwell (D-Wash) $10,000

    Democratic Party of North Dakota $10,000

    John Ensign (R-Nev) $10,000

    Jerry Lewis (R-Calif) $10,000

    John McCain (R-Ariz) $10,000

    Nick Rahall (D-WVa) $10,000

    Republican Party of Kentucky $10,000

    Phil Crane (R-Ill) $9,750

    Democratic Party of South Dakota $9,500

    Democratic Party of Minnesota $9,000

    Johnny Isakson (R-Ga) $9,000

    Ron Kind (D-Wis) $9,000

    Michael G. Oxley (R-Ohio) $9,000

    Roy Blunt (R-Mo) $8,500

    Peter Deutsch (D-Fla) $8,500

    George Radanovich (R-Calif) $8,500

    Bob Smith (R-Fla) $8,160

    Joe Baca (D-Calif) $8,000

    Dick Durbin (D-Ill) $8,000

    Tim Hutchinson (R-Ark) $8,000

    Deborah Pryce (R-Ohio) $8,000

    Xavier Becerra (D-Calif) $7,523

    Bill Thomas (R-Calif) $7,500

    Tim Johnson (D-SD) $7,250

    Dan Burton (R-Ind) $7,000

    Lindsey Graham (R-SC) $7,000

    George R. Nethercutt Jr. (R-Wash) $7,000

    Tom Reynolds (R-NY) $7,000

    Craig Thomas (R-Wyo) $7,000

    Democratic Party of New Mexico $6,250

    John R. Kasich (R-Ohio) $6,067

    Daniel K. Inouye (D-Hawaii) $6,000

    Rick Renzi (R-Ariz) $6,000

    Rick Santorum (R-Pa) $6,000

    Arlen Specter (R-Pa) $6,000

    Suzanne Terrell (R-La) $6,000

    Saxby Chambliss (R-Ga) $5,500

    Elton Gallegly (R-Calif) $5,500

    Pete V. Domenici (R-NM) $5,250

    David E. Bonior (D-Mich) $5,000

    Tom Cole (R-Okla) $5,000

    Jon S. Corzine (D-NJ) $5,000

    Democratic Party of Montana $5,000

    Phil English (R-Pa) $5,000

    Mark Foley (R-Fla) $5,000

    J. Randy Forbes (R-Va) $5,000

    James V. Hansen (R-Utah) $5,000

    Peter Hoekstra (R-Mich) $5,000

    Fritz Hollings (D-SC) $5,000

    Jay Inslee (D-Wash) $5,000

    Thomas P. Keefe Jr. (D-Wash) $5,000

    Don Manzullo (R-Ill) $5,000

    Barbara A. Mikulski (D-Md) $5,000

    Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska) $5,000

    Republican Party of New Jersey $5,000

    Deborah Ann Stabenow (D-Mich) $5,000

    Heather Wilson (R-NM) $5,000

    Joe Wilson (R-SC) $5,000

    Tom Davis (R-Va) $4,500

    Van Hilleary (R-Tenn) $4,500

    Earl Pomeroy (D-ND) $4,500

    Wayne Allard (R-Colo) $4,000

    Shelley Moore Capito (R-WVa) $4,000

    Tom Carper (D-Del) $4,000

    Steve Chabot (R-Ohio) $4,000

    Kent Conrad (D-ND) $4,000

    Tom Feeney (R-Fla) $4,000

    Chuck Hagel (R-Neb) $4,000

    Robin Hayes (R-NC) $4,000

    Jerry Kleczka (D-Wis) $4,000

    Jon L. Kyl (R-Ariz) $4,000

    Sander Levin (D-Mich) $4,000

    Robert T. Matsui (D-Calif) $4,000

    George Miller (D-Calif) $4,000

    Rob Portman (R-Ohio) $4,000

    William V. Roth Jr. (R-Del) $4,000

    Larry Craig (R-Idaho) $3,500

    Kalyn Cherie Free (D-Okla) $3,500

    James L. Oberstar (D-Minn) $3,500

    Charles J. Melancon (D-La) $3,100

    George Allen (R-Va) $3,000

    Ann Womer Benjamin (R-Ohio) $3,000

    Jeff Bingaman (D-NM) $3,000

    Jack A. Blossman Jr. (R-La) $3,000

    Norm Coleman (R-Minn) $3,000

    Cal Dooley (D-Calif) $3,000

    Tom Foley (I-Minn) $3,000

    Sam Graves (R-Mo) $3,000

    Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-Texas) $3,000

    Jim Kolbe (R-Ariz) $3,000

    John B. Larson (D-Conn) $3,000

    Bill McCollum (R-Fla) $3,000

    Jim Nussle (R-Iowa) $3,000

    David R. Obey (D-Wis) $3,000

    Doug Ose (R-Calif) $3,000

    Ed Pastor (D-Ariz) $3,000

    Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif) $3,000

    Richard M. Romero (D-NM) $3,000

    Brad Sherman (D-Calif) $3,000

    John E. Sununu (R-NH) $3,000

    James M. Talent (R-Mo) $3,000

    Bennie G. Thompson (D-Miss) $3,000

    J. C. Watts Jr. (R-Okla) $3,000

    Max Cleland (D-Ga) $2,500

    Frank D. Lucas (R-Okla) $2,500

    Grace Napolitano (D-Calif) $2,500

    Republican Party of Oklahoma $2,500

    Henry A. Waxman (D-Calif) $2,500

    Bill Luther (D-Minn) $2,250

    Rob Simmons (R-Conn) $2,250

    Gene Taylor (D-Miss) $2,250

    Neil Abercrombie (D-Hawaii) $2,000

    Lamar Alexander (R-Tenn) $2,000

    Rodney Alexander (R-La) $2,000

    John Ashcroft (R-Mo) $2,000

    Ken Bentsen (D-Texas) $2,000

    Dan Boren (D-Okla) $2,000

    Charles W. Boustany Jr (R-La) $2,000

    Tom Coburn (R-Okla) $2,000

    Mac Collins (R-Ga) $2,000

    Rosa L. DeLauro (D-Conn) $2,000

    John D. Dingell (D-Mich) $2,000

    Doug Dodd (D-Okla) $2,000

    Ned Doucet (D-La) $2,000

    Lane Evans (D-Ill) $2,000

    Sam Farr (D-Calif) $2,000

    Mike Ferguson (R-NJ) $2,000

    Bill Frist (R-Tenn) $2,000

    William L. Gormley (R-NJ) $2,000

    Kay Granger (R-Texas) $2,000

    Stewart Greenleaf (R-Pa) $2,000

    Katherine Harris (R-Fla) $2,000

    Melissa Hart (R-Pa) $2,000

    Sam Johnson (R-Texas) $2,000

    Walter B. Jones Jr. (R-NC) $2,000

    Ric Keller (R-Fla) $2,000

    John Neely Kennedy (D-La) $2,000

    Carl Levin (D-Mich) $2,000

    Blanche Lincoln (D-Ark) $2,000

    Nita M. Lowey (D-NY) $2,000

    Robert Menendez (D-NJ) $2,000

    John L. Mica (R-Fla) $2,000

    Connie Morella (R-Md) $2,000

    C. L. "Butch" Otter (R-Idaho) $2,000

    Republican Party of Oregon $2,000

    James E. Rogan (R-Calif) $2,000

    Craig F. Romero (R-La) $2,000

    Adam Schiff (D-Calif) $2,000

    Ronnie Shows (D-Miss) $2,000

    Adam Smith (D-Wash) $2,000

    John Sullivan (R-Okla) $2,000

    John E. Sweeney (R-NY) $2,000

    Ellen O. Tauscher (D-Calif) $2,000

    Billy Tauzin III (R-La) $2,000

    Mike Thompson (D-Calif) $2,000

    John Thune (R-SD) $2,000

    Patrick J. Tiberi (R-Ohio) $2,000

    Maxine Waters (D-Calif) $2,000

    Curt Weldon (R-Pa) $2,000

    Peter DeFazio (D-Ore) $1,500

    Norm Dicks (D-Wash) $1,500

    Jennifer Dunn (R-Wash) $1,500

    Elia Vincent Pirozzi (R-Calif) $1,500

    John Kerry (D-Mass) $1,400

    Henry Bonilla (R-Texas) $1,250

    Rick A. Lazio (R-NY) $1,250

    Helen Delich Bentley (R-Md) $1,000

    Barbara Boxer (D-Calif) $1,000

    Sam Brownback (R-Kan) $1,000

    Jim Bunning (R-Ky) $1,000

    Ken Calvert (R-Calif) $1,000

    Dennis Cardoza (D-Calif) $1,000

    Rick Clayburgh (R-ND) $1,000

    Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY) $1,000

    John Cornyn (R-Texas) $1,000

    Jim Costa (D-Calif) $1,000

    Ander Crenshaw (R-Fla) $1,000

    Susan A. Davis (D-Calif) $1,000

    Mike DeWine (R-Ohio) $1,000

    Elizabeth Dole (R-NC) $1,000

    John J. "Jimmy" Duncan Jr. (R-Tenn) $1,000

    Eliot L. Engel (D-NY) $1,000

    Mike Enzi (R-Wyo) $1,000

    Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif) $1,000

    Lee Fletcher (R-La) $1,000

    Ernie Fletcher (R-Ky) $1,000

    Francis E. Flotron (R-Mo) $1,000

    Scott Garrett (R-NJ) $1,000

    George W. Gekas (R-Pa) $1,000

    Carolyn W. Grant (R-NC) $1,000

    Felix J. Grucci Jr. (R-NY) $1,000

    Sydney Hay (R-Ariz) $1,000

    Tim Holden (D-Pa) $1,000

    Claude B. Hutchison Jr. (R-Calif) $1,000

    Ernest J. Istook (R-Okla) $1,000

    Kimo Kaloi (R-Hawaii) $1,000

    Catherine Heller Keating (R-Okla) $1,000

    Mark Kennedy (R-Minn) $1,000

    John Koster (R-Wash) $1,000

    Patrick Leahy (D-Vt) $1,000

    Joe Lieberman (D-Conn) $1,000

    John Linder (R-Ga) $1,000

    Jim Maloney (D-Conn) $1,000

    Dick Monteith (R-Calif) $1,000

    Marilyn Musgrave (R-Colo) $1,000

    Anne M. Northup (R-Ky) $1,000

    Rico Oller (R-Calif) $1,000

    David Phelps (D-Ill) $1,000

    Bill Redmond (R-NM) $1,000

    Republican Party of Wisconsin $1,000

    Bob Riley (R-Ala) $1,000

    Charles S. Robb (D-Va) $1,000

    Jim Saxton (R-NJ) $1,000

    Brian David Schweitzer (D-Mont) $1,000

    Richard C. Shelby (R-Ala) $1,000

    Bill Shuster (R-Pa) $1,000

    Mike Simpson (R-Idaho) $1,000

    Pete Stark (D-Calif) $1,000

    Pat Toomey (R-Pa) $1,000

    Gloria Tristani (D-NM) $1,000

    Michael R. Turner (R-Ohio) $1,000

    John W. Warner (R-Va) $1,000

    Derrick B. Watchman (D-Ariz) $1,000

    Rick Weiland (D-SD) $1,000

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    Paul Ryan (R-Wis) $949

    Joe Pitts (R-Pa) $894

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    Howard L. Berman (D-Calif) $500

    Ginny Brown-Waite (R-Fla) $500

    Henry Cuellar (D-Texas) $500

    Democratic Party of Washington $500

    Bob Ehrlich (R-Md) $500

    Mark Emerson (R-Utah) $500

    Charles R. Gerow (R-Pa) $500

    Phil Gingrey (R-Ga) $500

    Kirk Humphreys (R-Okla) $500

    Barbara Lee (D-Calif) $500

    Devin Nunes (R-Calif) $500

    Adam H. Putnam (R-Fla) $500

    Ed Royce (R-Calif) $500

    Loretta Sanchez (D-Calif) $500

    Tom Young (R-Ala) $500

    Bill Janklow (R-SD) $250
     
  4. XerxesX

    XerxesX New Member

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    Looks to me like the corruption-problem in the states is not one of bureoucracy and government, but that the "contribution"-circus lays it open for any corporate scumbag to bribe hhis way to power. This could have been avoided with a state free from reliance on moneymen.

    Its hard to see were the "contributions" stop and the corruptions start.

    I never understood why you guys wanted to pay the extra dough neccesary for a private healthcare.

    Another thing I never understood is why its so much better with teen-pregnancies than with information about bodily functions in school.

    As for propaganda, FucxNjuice had a BIG story ( Next to WAR on Christmas ) that attacked California. They ran ONE students private research , as an example of the whole states "immorality".

    This scewered presentation makes it impossible to believe any of their statements. This kind of presentation spells LIE, to anyone that knows how contradictory arguments are built up. I believe that this LIE. Shaping historical facts to suit the current agenda, ( As yopur Vietnam-presentation ) is what made it impossible for history-major :lol: GWB to know or consider the implications of the Iraq-invasion. Thats it. YOu NEED self-critique to stay sharp. The most defaitist anti-american argument i have heard the last few years is the one that goes "If you dont like our policy, why dont you go live somewhere else" ! THATS the looser ! Thats the one that will crawl and hide in a cave and doom america through its "patriotism".

    As for the kennedy-rapist, as well as OJ, Wacko and all those corporate fartfixers that Bush got of with the Hudson River "PROTECTION?!?" Plan and such wordwrenching bull. The USA is a big thing to cover and that builds preassure on lawenforcement and political purity. And honour to those that ACTUALLY fight the good fight. But the USA can harm itself and others by believing in the stories it had to make up, as counter-stories to the marxist-leninist-maoist-fairietales.

    As for Bat Pukeannan. He will need more than a good lawyer to free him from his abuse of scripture. A worse bibletumpin darkclad apostle of torture and terror is seldom seen. In the bible we all have to choose at some point. Maybe, like Bush he can plead stupidity :evil:
     
  5. Joeslogic

    Joeslogic Active Member

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    Xerx you have been way out there lately a few post back I started to ask if there were actually two people using the same name.

    Privatized medicine? That’s such an old argument. We have the best in the world. You see anyone jumping in a jet and flying from America to Albania, Russia, Venezuela, Peru for a serious heart operation?

    That’s laughable really there is no comparison the debate is so easy to win, but I'm bored with it.

    American corruption is there to be seen more transparent than any other country in the world. And there is plenty of corruption elsewhere. My only complaint is that there is a system in place by the powers that be in the media and liberal activist judges to stack the cards on one sides favor. During the Clinton regime it was made well known that the government was for sale to the highest bidder to anyone that had influence. But the ignorant middle and lower class were kept in the dark. Anyone who tried to bring it to light was a radical right wing zealot. This is what breeds corruption more than anything. Creating rules can be a really powerful tool when you get to select when and how the rules are enforced. And then paint the picture to the ignorant masses that you want for them to see about what has occurred.

    There is corruption in our country all right and 98% lands squarely at the feet of the socialist left wing.
     

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