The American media will not drool over it because it makes the left look like a bunch of sniveling crybabies. The media in Mexico I'm sure are going over the American media books on "Class Warfare 101" and whipping the people into a "You have been robbed" frenzy.
Because NAFTA is at stake, accusations that American elitists were involved in yet another election fraud episode are starting to become clearer. The stakes are too high to let the people speak in Mexico, so the fraudseters are going to try and steal it. But that may lead to protests, strikes and serious unrest in Mexico. The challenger is no John Kerry and won't roll over and play dead. While it is premature to say who won, dirty politics have always been part of the ruling elite in Mexico. The fraud allegations are being documented by ordinary people with camera's and microphones. Initial impression: a significant nudge was given to ensure that NAFTA and the political and economic integration of North America is not dealt a death blow by having Mexico fall into the hands of those sympathetic to Chavez. In Mexico they got a chance to vote for an anti-NAFTA candidate. In the US we don't.
See Dio? I was thinking I might make that into Crow Pie if you like but then I thought hell no let Dio get the crow and prepair it to his own taste I mean he is the one that lost.
Yeah Joe, but Mexico is a democracy and if that's what the people want then that should be what the people get. Either side shouldn't be trying to steal the election, and right now it really seems like "winner" stole the election.
The funny thing is that you are assuming they didn't steal the election. How do you know. They're still missing 2.5 million votes. Funny that all of those didn't show up, in spite of the fact that those people did indeed vote. You're attempting to put this in a framework of "the right didn't steal the election, and the left is going to say they did." You still don't know that the right didn't steal the election, and it's starting to look more and more like they did. Until then, the crow will remain unserved.
Who gives a fuck? Its the president, or el presidente, of fucking MEXICO. Thats like winning a poo eating contest.
No Dio you have gone over into the twilight zone I suppose its a defensive reaction to the fact that my prediction was dead on. While you are pandering to all the left propaganda have you considered that the left may be the ones trying to cheat the system? Where are these 2.5 million voters you witnessed voting and then were insightful enough to notice there vote not being tallied? I guess you has positioned yourself fairly safely I mean history books will show the "Facts" :roll: that being that the right cheated in all of future time. So till then I guess.
mmmhhmm, I see Joe's point. How do we know that the Left didn't steal the votes and blame it on the real winners? Damn it, I hate it when Joe has a point. I think that the Chavez sympathizer did win, since it is a hispanic population and they love their neighbors to the south more than their neighbors to the north. The fact that everybody seems so angry that the other guy won shows me who everybody was expecting to win. Still, I see Joe's point. Don't automatically ASSume that it's the Left setting up the Right, Joe.
Its true I guess I mean withn the massive migration of Mexicans going south they must love that Chavez guy.
Asked if such a protest would be good for Mexican democracy, just 32 percent agreed, while 53 percent said it would be a bad thing for the nation’s political system. The University of Miami School of Communication/Zogby poll had Calderon with 34.5% support, compared with 31.3% for the PRD candidate Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador and 27.1% for PRI candidate Roberto Madrazo Pinitado. After Sunday's election, Calderon led by just one percent before today's recount. Zogby's pre-election survey, conducted June 10-15, 2006, included 1,000 respondents and carried a margin of error of +/- 3.1 percentage points. You really have to assume a lot to take the view that Calderon did not win legit.
No Joe, you see they will migrate up here and take our money, but when it comes down to it they love their South American neighbors more. The way white people have reacted towards Hispanics - especially in recent years - has served to make them hate us even more. They'll love Chavez, if they believe he really is trying to help his people. Nationalizing their oil industry really boosted his image. Still, I can't help but think this whole illegal immigration thing is just slowly setting us up to feel like we'll have the right to head south of the border if anything really bad ever happens to our country. When the day comes that we'll no longer be able to live on our land, we'll turn our greedy eyes to theirs and welcome ourselves over.
Mass Protests Slated For Mexico Refusing To Concede Election, Leftist Presidential Candidate Calls For Help Since Florida this technique has been repeated again and again and again. Why because there are a lot of ignorant people in the world and they are easily swept into the fraud. Look at Washington State governor’s race for instance. The mo is the same; try your best to steal the election, and then when that is unsuccessful accuse the other side of fraud, playing the people against each other. The more you split the people the better for one party and one party alone. Recount is the next opportunity to steal the election recount, recount, and recount till you get the result you desire. Then of course that’s when it’s ok to stop the recount. Just like Al liar Gore in 2000 wanting recount after recount after recount and at the same time using his legal team to argue that he placed his initial grievance before a deadline and there could not legally be any recounts in conservative districts as it would be after the deadline. at the same time trying to stretch the rules on recounts in an ever expanding area reaching for more corruptly acquired votes.
They cannot there is not a way there are to many stop gaps in place. At least in the case of the American election and conservatives that is. On the other hand the left is allowed to use whatever means they need to. They can use public bussing systems and free cigarettes to roundup homeless, Keep selected voting stations open till midnight in democratic stronghold areas. All the wile accusing the right of misconduct to evoke anger votes by their misguided constituents. There were voting machines in select districts in Chicago that had over 4000 votes on them before the stations were opened. Problem is its very important to the media to paint any wrongdoing to look as if it were misconduct by the right. That’s the reason the right cannot rig an election the right is very heavily policed by the media. It’s the left that is not. If you do not see this then you are naive to say the least.
I knew it was going to happen cause that guy just looked to sneeky to me something about him I just could not trust.