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Discussion in 'More Serious Topics' started by improtected, Aug 3, 2007.

  1. ucicare

    ucicare Active Member

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    What I mean is the idea of "the answer lies within". A person "who has faith in himself" really means that he has faith ONLY in himself. That person would in essence declare himself God, since there would be nothing greater than himself.

    I have great faith in myself. The only qualifier is to say that even that faith is a gift, and comes from one great that me.
     
  2. Nauseous

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    If I can see it or hear it, then it exists (to me anyway) because it has been validated in my brain. I won't live my life and make decisions based on blind faith, which is all Christians have.

    Organized religion is corrupt and perverse and responsible for more death and despair than I fathom to think about.
     
  3. Joeslogic

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    Not post industrial. :biggrin:



    Yeah Nauseous but you see it does not have to be about blind faith. For me it takes much less faith to see that there was a creator than to try to fathom the impossibility of all other theory.

    My example was not the best really but consider what has been validated in your brain and how your brain managed to validate it. The connections from the various senses, the input and reasoning of data. It is the complexity of it all that is proof.
     
  4. Disorder

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    I think you're confusing my comment a bit. I don't have faith in myself as a higher power, as a comparison from god to another diety, far from it, but I know that no action that occurs within my fouth dimensional voyage is due to an invisible entity, only me, other people and the forces of the planet (the latter of which I'm luckily to have escaped so far)
    I at least have faith in that I know who I am and what I can do and what I know, but it is more a self reassurance than a religious ideology.

    That is quite true, but we we're having trouble living in harmony with ourselves and continue to this day.
    Perhaps we really shouldn't be the type of people that have this power?

    I think therefor, I am.. but what if we don't think we are, are we not? Are we delusional or are we just not percieving the way we should? What about all the things that we've only just discovered, they exististed before they were percieved.
    Because something cannot be observered, shouldn't mean it doesn't exist, but it can't be proven it exists either. All we have to go on are examples of what we know already and highly calculated guesses.
    It also means that complex things existed far before we were complex enough to understand them. Its a chicken-egg conundrum to be sure.
    Also what you 'validate' or percieve, might be incorrect, it might be that your intuition or psyche or instinct is telling you what you should be aware of. People with the worst kind of mental delusions and hallucinations and other sense altering mental disabilities would validate something untrue or imaginary as real as the legs they walk on.
     

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