Marines involved in the Haditha incident are innocent

although i don't rule out that insurgents use media to bring sympathy to their cause..... just like every baby kissing, fundraiser having amircan politician does....... i am reminded of when joe suggested that the 60 year old man that got his face smashed up in NO was part of a liberal conspiracy in league with CNN and the AP to discredit the government.... i'm telling u guys it's pointless to argue

 

Yeah, but you live in the socialist bastion of Canada. You're just as good as communist, so no one listens to you anyhow. :wink:

 

You bring the old man up for what Smiles? What is your point?

I'm pretty damn consistent Smiley you can attack my character if you like but anyone who has paid attention would know that that thread fits the mo I usually follow. I take the sensational story typically the one that has people in an uproar and point out that there is a misconception that the media is taking advantage of. My bitch nine times out of ten is with the media. Your technique is typical of you and the ilk like yourself. Ignore the truth for that moral superior argument you try to claim. You are of less moral standing then me that I can assure you.

If you are for doing the right thing and being the morally superior person then scurry your ass back where you came from and shine a bright happy fucking beam of rainbow sunshine into that shithole land of darkness. And get the fuck off of my continent.

 

Wow, have you completely lost it? YOUR CONTINENT?

 

lol well as least I'm not incontinent, maybe at some level incompetent. If in any way in a grammatical since.

Point is to come in here and take any efforts at what I am saying and try to invalidate that point by taking something said out of context to force me to either spend the effort to defend as if I should have to my character is a crock of shit.

None of that changes the fact that John Shithead Murtha made a rush to judgment while wheeling around the political circles like as if he is some fat cat we are supposed to listen to about a group of Marines.
Does anyone but me here find it a bit ironic that we are to by upset and offended that a few Marines could have possibility (we are not sure) made a hasty rush to judgment while being under extreme pressures of threat to their own life? When John Shithead Murtha is doing the exact same thing (rush to judgment) when not under any level of stress unless Nancy Pelosi was twisting his arm?

 

John Murtha's rush to judgement didn't end anyones life. You're arguing apples and oranges.

 

Oh but yes it did and can do worse. It’s like the movie Butterfly Effect Murtha created destiny with his words. The day after Memorial Day That scumbag Zarkowi was in the media also using the footage ands Murtha’s words to insight the Sunnis to joins the insurgent cause.

 

Ok, so let's enact the butterfly effect. Those marines killing people was a much more powerful tool than anything John Murtha said. Don't be a dipshit Joe. If they hadn't killed civilians, including women and children, John Murtha never would have said anything, which means Zarkawi never would have been able to use any of it. If you're going to enact the butterfly effect then you need to actually follow the tenets of chaos theory.

 

dio don't you know that joe only argues facts..... he never speculates.... or draws up more far fetched conclusions and disregards the more apparent and likely causes that the evidence actuallllly points to....... like his butterfly effect argument ...... logic to the T


joey joe dont get upset now..... every quote i seem to provide is taken out of context...... so don't mind me....

and don't get it confused joe.... you jump on the sensationalist bandwagon as well as the greatest bleeding heart except you catch a different train......

 

I see you were there also Dio :roll:

 

A 12-year-old survivor admitted that she knew in advance of the plot to ambush the Marine convoy with an IED detonation. If she knew, how likely is it that her parents, other family members and neighbors were unaware of the plan?

From the same artical

We do have reports that Haditha is a terrorist hotbed -- referred to by some as a miniature Taliban-like state -- in which the terrorists rule with an iron fist and perform daily executions of those not sufficiently obedient to their rule, or Sharia law, or who knows what else. We are told that Haditha citizens live in fear and may prefer to cooperate with the terrorists purely for self-preservation.

The false and misleading reports by out own congress much less our media kill many people. The blood is on their hands.

 

Are you attempting to say that the Marines didn't kill anyone? Your arguments are becoming circular and incredibly weak. Since none of us were there, why are we even discussing it. You should shut the fuck up about it since you werent' there.

 

I would not argue that they had not killed. My point it that they (meaning media as well as John Murtha as well as recently you Dio) jumped to conclusions based on really shaky sources and did so before knowing the facts based in rumor and innuendo.

There has been at least one admission by a local of whom I have perfectly good reason to believe that they knew and therefore were accomplices in the success of the improvised explosive device. Also there is a track record of the insurgency using dead bodies to try to create the impression of improprieties by the U.S. military having taken place. Such was the case some time ago involving placed bodies in a mosque. Therefore their credibility is in question.

 

What conclusions am I jumping too. They killed people, including women and children.

 

They did?

 

According to the articles you posted, yes they did.

 

Are you refering to hearsay? Or am I missing something?

 

I think it's more likely that you're ignoring something.

 

You see with the decapitated heads what Al Zarcowi was up to trying to stir up Sunni against Shite. killing in order to pit brother against brother. But you choose to believe the likes of terrorists about the events instead of the Marines.

 

I know 2 things.

1. The marines were involved in a killing people.

2. Their are conflicting stories.

That's all I know for sure right now, but that's the reason they are launching an investigation, as they should.