One can argue the cost of strongmen in general. Or, as you choose, to focus solely on one. The phenomenons success is related to its effective transformation to plural, peacefull, plentifull democracy. The traditional anti-capitalistic pan-national strongman has in this case a most horrid record. Even Ho Chi Minh. Even uncle Ho. But the asian boob-or-bust economies are not fully developed yet. The relative success of the british colonial administration, ( in decolonialisation ), is notable. Nous ancestres, les Gaulls. No less :wink:
joe wasn't the whole point of the abu gharib incident to see if the actions of the soldiers were tolerated, or even enforced by the military? if they were just some random sadistic freaks the fuss wouldn’t have been big....... but if their actions were part of an unspoken policy then we do have a problem. agreed?
An edu in theatre taught me the benefits of positive feedback. It applies to politics as well. Hatefull rethorics, ( even if just ), are usually counterproductive. Wesawyoudidits simply will not do. The slogan EDUCATE THE MASSES need some work as well. Why bafflement ?
Xerx its actually a pleasure to see you are posing again. In all honesty while I think others truly do not understand you I think I get at least 75 percent. And while I agree usually only in part. You do have a way of portraying you point of view in a fairly objective manner that is not inflammatory and or derogatory to a person of opposing opinion. Nursey is baffled because you did not show her pictures to go along with your text that you copied from some America-Hate webpage. Smiles, that is a loaded question that takes a while to explain in short the answer is: No. But that leaves a false impression kind of like asking a man if he stopped beating his wife? Yes or no will simply do please.
i see...... so regardless if the media is portraying an insignificant percentage of the military as the majority..... it wouldn’t matter because you feel that such behavior is not inappropriate..... so then how is the media doing you a disservice? shouldn’t you be arguing towards why Abu Gharib should be a standard and not at why the media is covering it?
Ooh, bitchy! I had no idea when i did this thread poking a little mischievous fun at Joe's uncannily stereotypical political views i would be provoking such a bitter response! As you mature, Joe, you may find you are able to lighten up a little and even have the occasional laugh at your own expense. What baffled me about XerxesX's post? Apart from the typically obscure references, eg. the (Carthusian) 'contemplative order founded during the 11th century by Saint Bruno' :| ...was his quibbling... eg. "Does not leave a lot of parliamentary room though." (!?) I didn't post the cartoons for pontificating, academic-style analysis...i posted them because they are Joeslogic - to a tee...as portrayed by a cartoon parody of the extreme right. And i seem to remember making that exact same point about Joe before...that he is so extreme that he is impossible to parody...because he is already a self-parody. And quite proud of it it seems, as he shamelessly continues to fulfill the stereotypes being portrayed with comments like 'America-hate webpage'. (giggle) What 'hate-filled rhetoric' are you referring to, XerxesX? The 'hate' (?) filled 'rhetoric' (?) of a humorous political cartoon which just so happens to exactly depict the facts as exemplified by Joe? Get a grip.
No Nursey, I've been away on business actually and took a break from Fugly Forums while away. I do not know what to say Nursey more than I have. Of course you never know but it is likely the anti-Bush administration rhetoric will likely be effective in 2008 as it stands now. Maybe that will make you fill better. I see things as they are and make no apologies. I find it frightening that so many people when considering within the realm of where they draw there ideology, are like simple wisps of smoke to be blown around by the perceived winds of common opinion. Smiley, if I remember right (and I really do not feel like reading over it again) you misunderstood my previous post then made a somewhat valid point. Abu Gharib from the technical perspective was perfectly legal there is no law protecting terrorists on the books. If you want to consider weather there was a moral obligation that was not met. Well that can be argued forever. Was it misrepresented by the media? Absolutely, unequivocally, and without a doubt. Were those misrepresentations effective in achieving the desired results? Yes but not the degree we have been told.
Fiscally conservative. Socially liberal on some issues not so much on others. Basically I do not think conservative is accurate. It is interesting the play on words that is used these days. You idiot there at Berkley posted the findings he wanted to find and showed his own hand at the same time. I'm sure his voting record would accurately indicate is of the extreme left and likely quite liberal himself at least that is on social issues. Likely never voted for a republican in his life and as most of academia these days actively campaigns for the Democratic Party with each election cycle. Fact is his intention is to paint republicans as the whinny little pestery kids. Let him show his 20 years of wasted effort. A study that would be likened to one of those "How many _insert noun_ does it take to _insert verb_...." Republicans are not necessarily conservative as Democrats are not necessarily liberal. This is the reason specifically that people feel the need to identify them selves as either Libertarian or Independent. And this is why I consider myself as an Independent. Do I vote as a republican the party you seem to associate with conservatives? Yes probably 90 percent of the time. The thing is in your little study the so called Independent and confident little liberal grows up. Being a waste to society, a leach that contributes nothing, could not tell you how to write a resume or get a job. But knows with expert precision where to go to get on the government dole, how to file a disability claim, where to get unemployment, the correct form to fill out for a special handicap parking pass and what to say to convince them they need one even though they appear physically fine. How to avoid serving any military duty for the country he or she leaches off of. And if they become a member how to opt out of duty once duty calls using the conscious objector status. Your basic menial little confident shitbag.
Why did I bump this thread you ask? Well why not seeing how Google decided in the infinite wisdom of their search engine that this specific thread was the most popular one to represent "joeslogic" certainly not due to popularity or maybe they would have chosen [ 15 year olds with parents that neglect to whip their ass ] thread which is pushing 4000 views now. or [ Osama Bin Laden died in a filthy cave ] 3900+ views. I guess maybe due to the title in the thread.
Pfffffft Hell no Dio :roll: I just figured hell if Google brings it up with my name search along with my Sam's Sushi review I might as well post something on it you know have the last word.
