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  1. Joeslogic

    Joeslogic Active Member

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    Babylonians hell no it’s the Muslims we owe a debt of gratitude to. Where you been Dio?
     
  2. XerxesX

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    Mahmoot der Mozelmann ist einer guter mench. Ich dankt ehr fur seimen teil der gescicht der menchlichkeit und wissenchaft. Liebe Mahmoot, ich wuncht mich eine foto von sie :wink:
     
  3. smurfslappa

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    Töten sie die Juden. Wir können nicht stillstehen bis sie alle tot sind. Wir müssen die Juden ausrotten! Es ist Zeit für Rache!
     
  4. diogenes

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    Now I'm slightly frightened. Should I be????
     
  5. XerxesX

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    Chiickeen :twisted: Goetterdammerung knabe, schreck brauchst man nicht. MerchedesBenz Valkyrien und schnaps. Schnee Schnie Schnappie der kleine krokodil
     
  6. diogenes

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    Ok, now your just bullshitting, talking about drinking schnapps in a mercedez with a crocodile or some shit.
     
  7. XerxesX

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    But schreck brauchs man nicht means you cant use fear.
     
  8. diogenes

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    I'm guessing that's German. I'm a loser, I only speak English.
     
  9. XerxesX

    XerxesX New Member

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    Most dominant culture critters are monolingual dominant culture sucks :!:
    Cultural domination is for loosers 8)
     
  10. diogenes

    diogenes New Member

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    and haxors
     
  11. Nursey

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    Yeah, 'good' one, but what has your western propaganda got to do with the downfall of Mesopotamia?

    You didn't? I still didn't see you giving any other explanation!?

    Pardon? Is this more of your 'woof peep blarg' style matrilinear thought?


    The people of the region were, for the most part, Arabs. And when we speak of the inhabitants of present day Iraq (who are the descendants of ancient Babylon), do we refer to 'Assyrians, Sumerians, Akkadians, Chaldeans etc., or 'Arabs'? I think you might need to get some hair conditioner for all those split ends that are appearing.

    Now don't go missing any opportunity to throw in more of your bigoted superiority! Yeah, they have us to thank for kindly giving part of their beautiful, fertile land which provided their children with plenty of food (and jobs when they grew up) away to a bunch of brutal, white supremacists. What an ungrateful bunch. Perhaps showering this rabble with thousands of tons of depleted uranium is a case of 'cruel to be kind' when you look at it that way!

    Ok, so you're admitting that i didn't misquote you anywhere at all. Glad to clear that up..
    Next - i am accused of 'using Babylonian history to suggest that Arabs and non-Arabs were Muslim due to the fact that they lived in the region'. I think the problem lies in your own ignorance. Otherwise, considering that ancient Babylonian history predates Islam by at least 5,000 years, anyone who believes that is what i was saying must have a screw loose. And the post/link of mine you are referring to (as my 'twisting of facts on Babylon') i had already explained (soon after posting) was "in reference to the original post which took the thread in this direction in the first place, about screaming, backwards arabs who couldn't understand codes of conduct." NOT in response to your questions on ancient Babylon.

    But credit where it is due, and whether you like it or not, we also benefitted greatly from Islamic civilisation. I can't help if you have such an indoctrinated view of the world that you can't accept certain facts to be true.

    The thing which started this line of discussion off in the first place was XarseseX' supercillious scoffing at how the Arabs - who brought us the very first laws - are too backwards and irrational to understand the codes of conduct necessary to exist in the civilised world. I pointed out the extreme irony of such narrow-minded views and went on to show how we have the Arabs to be grateful to for civilising us when we were backwards and irrational. And considering that portraying the Arabs as a worthless, backwards rabble is all the rage these days, someone's got to point this all out. Nobody else was going to pull XarseX up about his smug, superior statement, were they Diogenes?

    This wasn't an interracting of civilisations, it was an interacting between uncivilised and civilised. Quite a difference, really. :roll:
     
  12. Joeslogic

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    Nursey wrote
    Ok then are you saying you have a screw loose or that you knew it and were manipulating the facts?
     
  13. XerxesX

    XerxesX New Member

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    Nursey
    Yeah, 'good' one, but what has your western propaganda got to do with the downfall of Mesopotamia?
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    XerxesX
    And what does your querrulant overprotection of the antropological "other" has to do with the exchanges of rulers down there ? "They" conquering eachother is fine, but occidental agression against percieved threats gets a totally different label.
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    Xerx
    Sorry that I did not go with barrys opium (?).
    Nursey
    You didn't? I still didn't see you giving any other explanation!?
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    XerxesX
    Thats low, even for you. Pure nonsensical drivvel. Other than opium ? How about other than demigods with nukes ? But OK cultural fatigue and rise of neighbouring nations to bully-hood :!: Whats YOUR fiveword exosition by the way :?: :roll:
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    Xerx
    Would find Islam as satanic sect more interesting when it comes to rant.

    Nursey
    Pardon? Is this more of your 'woof peep blarg' style matrilinear thought?
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    XerxesX
    My BarkVoff was a comment on general shit-slinging. Derogerative terms, unsubstantiated and hurtful description; like YOU bigot, Me Thinker :lol:
    Islam as a satanic sect countered by islam as culimination of the monotheistic judaeic beliefs WOULD be interesting in my book. I do not understand your reason for combining matrilinear and bark. If i went as low as you do, i would claim that you here support male-supremacy patriarchy oldstyle. Do you ?
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    Nursey
    The people of the region were, for the most part, Arabs. And when we speak of the inhabitants of present day Iraq (who are the descendants of ancient Babylon), do we refer to 'Assyrians, Sumerians, Akkadians, Chaldeans etc., or 'Arabs'? I think you might need to get some hair conditioner for all those split ends that are appearing.
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    XerxesX
    More bull They were not mostly arabs: They were conquered by arabs
    ( That inhabited the arab peninsula ) and part gently, part by forcefuck and taxreduction and deaththreats brought over to the arabic fold. There are still decendants of sumerians living in the swamps down by Basra. Decendants of old Magi-religions closer to syria.
    But NOW you are not splittinghears , you are playing the violin of demographics with the sledgehammer of the halfread "lecture-lectual".
    ( That would be BarkVoff ( Degoratory remark ) See ! Its simple :)
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    And they owe us as much as we owe them. Surgery, electricity and television. Condoms ( Vive la France ) If they would choose to use them. Maybe their children would not have to starve, or roam the streets with stones iand molotov-coctails in hand.

    "Bigoted superiority" is VoffBark Nursey :wink:

    Nursey
    Now don't go missing any opportunity to throw in more of your bigoted superiority! Yeah, they have us to thank for kindly giving part of their beautiful, fertile land which provided their children with plenty of food (and jobs when they grew up) away to a bunch of brutal, white supremacists. What an ungrateful bunch. Perhaps showering this rabble with thousands of tons of depleted uranium is a case of 'cruel to be kind' when you look at it that way!
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    No they dont need to thank us for TAKING their land. Just like we dont need to thank them for TAKING our land. We should thank eachother for the gifts of knowledge. I dont get your issue with the resiprocal nature of this.
    I cant go with your US bad THEY good. Sorry ! Its pathetic.

    There are still a lot of white people in Iraq ( iraqians ) so you dont get points for "protecting" the "indigenous" in this scenario.

    I agree that depleted uranium is bad. :)
    And i hope you share my dislike for hard torture and orcestrated rape :)
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    But you continue youngling :?

    Nursey
    The thing which started this line of discussion off in the first place was XarseseX' supercillious scoffing at how the Arabs - who brought us the very first laws.
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    XerxesX
    Supercilous scoffing ? Thats good. You are talking about Hamurabi the famous "Arab" ? Is he a relative ( Hehe ) of Einstein the middleeastern ?
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    ( Xerx claims Arabs )are too backwards and irrational to understand the codes of conduct necessary to exist in the civilised world. I pointed out the extreme irony of such narrow-minded views
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    IF YOU DONT UPPHOLD INTENATIONAL TREATIES. DONT RECOGNISE YOUR ENEMIES RIGHT TO exist ,AND CANT even GET A COMMON PLATFORM FOR NEGOTIATION TOGETHER !!!!!

    Yes ! That is misinterpreting the international diplomatic codes of conduct :!: Thusly creating extra suffering :(
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    And now you go :?:
    Nursey
    ( About the muslims meeting christianity more than 1000 years ago).

    This wasn't an interracting of civilisations, it was an interacting between uncivilised and civilised. Quite a difference, really.

    Ok i will pretend i dont have to teach you about Byzants and Hagia Sofia, ( Where we by right should have christian fanatics, just like the muslems have on the templemount ).

    Hm !
    If a bigot is one that holds double standards, then you seem to be one.

    Here is me using your words about yesterday in the middleeast.

    This wasn't an interracting of civilisations, it was an interacting between uncivilised and civilised. Quite a difference, really.

    Voff Voff ! Do you get the difference ? Yes or no .
     
  14. Nursey

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    Neither. Show me where you think i have manipulated facts. I can assure you there is absolutely no need for me to do that. The worst i can be accused of is making a genuine mistake, and as far as i'm aware i have been accurate. But if you think i am wrong somewhere, please point it out and if you are right i will acknowledge the error.
     
  15. XerxesX

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    Is that aknowledge error a written freudian slip 8)
     
  16. Nursey

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    Jesus christ. These Klingons are pompous fucks. I'll reply when i have more time. But for now...

    You're talking about Israel?
     
  17. XerxesX

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    Israel dont comply with UNresolutions. Treaties however ? And they speak with ( more or less ) one voice. in addition they know the vulcan deathgrip and that has to be taken into account by the Mujahediin. The ballance might swing if the iranians learn the vulcan deathgrip, but they are not there yet.
     
  18. diogenes

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    What does Israel have to do with this thread? Nursey, you're going way out on some crazy limbs here. Assuming that all of Europe was completely un-civilized until it began interaction with the middle east is a pretty big leap of faith in terms of evidence. As far as the middle east not being capable of participating in the modern world, they're not, and no amount of history lessons is going to change that. The fact that they refuse to particapate and pull shit like declaring Jihad over a lid to an icecream container makes them more or less fucking insane. The middle east now is not the middle east of 2,000 years ago, nor is it the middle east of 500 years ago. The comparisons between Babylon and the modern day middle east are irrelevant.
     
  19. Nursey

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    "They" conquering each other is history. The occifuckingdental aggression using space age weaponry (against what the gullible masses were fooled into believing was a threat) by the world's most powerful army, is blowing Mesopotamia's childrens heads apart in 2003,4,5 and 6.

    What the fuck are you talking about? What's 'low even for me'? I just pointed out that if you didn't agree with Barry's flawed theory you certainly didn't make it in any way apparent. Who knows what kind of noisy barks, parps and hisses you made on the other side of your screen to express your disapproval, i can only go by what is visible here.

    And now you're behaving as if you were the one who corrected Barry, not me? 'But OK blah blah blah' :!: So many words to convey so little meaning...

    Do you take it up the ass while typing these paroxysms of grandiosity for us to marvel at in venerating awe here in the mildewy pisspits of Fugly?

    It's the descendants of all the people who lived in that region that i was defending when i responded to your original insulting post (the derranged, screaming Arabs one) by going on to point out what they collectively achieved in terms of civilising the West. Your comment insulted Arabs, and that includes the Sumerians you mentioned in the 'swamps'....or 'Marsh Arabs' as they are known in the present day.:roll: So it's ok for you to generalise when you're insulting them but not me when i'm defending them?

    Pathetic? That's what i would call using a story in a religious book (that, apart from anything else, plagiurises large portions of its content from other religions) as an excuse to occupy another's land and slaughter its people.

    What!? Anyway, Iraqaxoids are violet and green. :idea:

    Yeah, i can imagine you're more the moderate torture and random, impulsive rape sort of guy. With a condom of course ('Vive La Abu Ghraib!').

    And you continue, you twittering, pumped up old fart...

    Well, King Hammurabi of Babylon. Upon whose descendants you pour your scorn.

    Ahhh! You're talking about the Americans.

    Well here's what an expert on the matter has to say:


     
  20. diogenes

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    I looked up this G.M. Wickens, the man who wrote that article, and he's a reputable source. What he's saying is true, but the amount of debt owed by Europe to the middle east, don't you think the fact that he's spent his entire life studying the middle east slightly affects his opinion of there importance.
     

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