The Hidden Hand Of The CIA, 911 And Popular Mechanics The magazine pushing the government's 9/11 propaganda, Popular Mechanics (PM), is published by the Hearst family. Its March cover story, Debunking 9/11 Lies, has been exposed by credible researchers to contain numerous distortions and flawed conclusions. American Free Press revealed that Benjamin Chertoff, the 25-year-old senior researcher who authored the 9/11 article, is related to Michael Chertoff, the new Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS). The PM article illustrates how a propaganda method, used by dictatorships, is now being employed by the U.S. government: controlling mainstream media outlets to promote its version of 9/11.
http://www.physics911.net/ PHYSICS 911 is created and maintained by a group of scientists, engineers and other professionals known collectively as the Scientific Panel Investigating Nine-eleven. The investigative work of the Panel proceeds in the directions that head our list of articles: What Did Not Happen and What May Have Happened [opposite]. By clicking on the titles of these sections, you may read a brief illustration of the differences required in the two approaches. The background information section provides important documents and articles related to the attacks on September 11, 2001.[/url]
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And that seems to be a point of personal pride for you, eh. Do me a favor and consider sterilization.
Thanks for the read. I didn't make the relation between the Chertoffs. I hadn't read this one, probably because I try to keep my distance from American Free Press. Do you also read American Free Press's sister publication The Barnes Review as well? At least Carto keeps his white supremacist views off of American Free Press. Now if Christopher Bollyn would just stay the hell away from David Duke, and stop affiliating himself with neo-nazi organizations, i'd enjoy his articles much more since he does seem to be an excellent investigative reporter.
If he cut himself off from the Neo-nazi groups he would lose the rage that drives him to be such a good investigative reporter. Hate is a wonderful fuel. Hard to control though.
DISINFORMATION AND DECEPTION? Consider this. You put five people in a house, one is a thief. Two people inadvertently misplace a personal article say a really nice lighter or pen. One of the individuals was the thief one was a regular Joe. Of the thief and the regular Joe, which will assume that they have had their personal item stolen? Now screw it up even worse consider regular Joe has never stolen anything in his whole life but the Thief has been spreading rumors that he cannot be trusted to the three others ever since they came in the door. Now who points the finger first and what do the gullible three think? A thief who misplaces a personal artical will be the first to suspect he has been robbed. A liar will be the first to suspect the validity of anothers story.
Good rule of thumb, but it doesn't withstand strict scrutiny. You can't assume the thief stole the lighter lacking any other evidence.
The rumors placed by the thief are evidence enough for most. Apply the same rule to the conspiracy theories regarding the third tower, if you want to call it a tower. Look for cause, effect, and motive. It would be much easier to convince me that the investment group that owned the building dropped it for insurance claim reasons.
That would make sense. But fuck all the conspiracy theories. They only do any good if you can do anything to stop it. Otherwise it's just fodder for discussion. Smurfspeak if you will.
Not really, you see the masses can take their aggression out on the wrong people if they don't know who's at fault. Hence the whole "Fuck those goddam Arabs!" thing going around right now instead of "Fuck those goddam old, white guys and any other asshole in on this!"
And besides, this is one instance where our American mindset has us screwed. Innocent until proven guilty, and the guys in charge of collecting the evidence are the ones who did it. So they send off all the scrap to China to immediately be smelted. Oklahoma city bombing? Evidence got buried, with a memorial built on top of it all. You won't find out these guys are guilty with our conventional slow ass system.
Yes, one minute i was rushing headlong into the most spectacular, dazzling white light i have ever seen from where the chorus of a million angels joyously sung my name, next i was back in front of my computer typing a post at fugly. Thanks, Barry. Well, if 'Nursey' = 'miserable, boring bitch with little to say these days' , then yes, it's me. Hooray. :| What is this? A 'you discredit my source and i'll discredit yours' competition? I don't regularly read American Free Press, i just knew that the Popular Mechanics 9-11 conspiracy debunking articles had been discredited and selected one of the sources for the story from this list. The 'regular Joe' might if he has been noticing that an awful lot of his things seem to have been mysteriously vanishing as of late. :roll: And what about an honest person who has noticed they have been lied to frequently? So Joe's theory suggests that anyone who feels the official story is not adding up is automatically of ill repute or lacking integrity? The guy who wrote the Popular Mechanics story is Michael Chertoff's COUSIN. Michael Chertoff is part of the group of individuals who are under suspicion regarding 9-11. The story is 'exposed by credible researchers to contain numerous distortions and flawed conclusions', except Joeslogic expects us to just blindly swallow it? Seems pretty dishonest and hypocritical to me because you can be sure as hell he wouldn't accept as unbiased material an article written by the cousin of one of his opponents. Well with that attitude it definately can't be stopped. Because one of the few things which could change it is if enough discussions enabled enough people to find out the truth. 'When is a conspiracy theory not a conspiracy theory? When it is conspiracy fact'. John Judge: Call me a conspiracy theorist if you like, so long as you call yourself a coincidence theorist. Coalition On Political Assassinations (COPA) presentation, 2002 On radio shows, I am often asked, “How do we tell the American people?” And therein lies the great obstacle in telling the truth -- anyone who tells the truth is going to be instantly labeled a “conspiracy theorist.” The reason people get that label is because 90% of the American people don’t understand what they’re saying. If the American people don’t understand it, they instantly dismiss it as being “untrue.” And therein lies another great conspiracy of government. This is simply the conflict of “belief systems” wherein our government, our educational system and everything that makes this society work tells you that if you don’t understand it, then its no good, get rid of it – or it tells you “Don’t worry. You don’t have to understand it.” Leave it to Washington. We understand it. You don’t have to . You just stick to your mind numbing sitcoms, fake “reality” shows and six packs of Bud and keep sending in your checks to your broker every month for your IRA/ 401K contribution - Iran-Contra whistleblower Al Martin The word "conspiracy" works much the same way the word "cult" does to discredit advocates of a certain view or persuasion. Historians do not use the word "conspiracy" to describe accurate historical reports. On the contrary, they use it to indicate a lack of veracity and objectivity. “Reconstructing Reality: Conspiracy Theories About Jonestown” by Rebecca Moore Conspiracy Fact vs. Goverment Fabrication
Well, if 'Nursey' = 'miserable, boring bitch with little to say these days' , then yes, it's me. Hooray. Don't worry Nursey, in these times I'm sure we'll be having plenty to write and scream to the high hills about soon enough. I just hope the internet-taking-away one doesn't come before a lot of the other crap, though. The depression is looming, I wonder how that will affect it...
Nursey wrote... Come on Nursey, I might be a geek, but don't assume that I'm a dumbed down, over stimulated little geek over here. I watched maybe 25 hours of T.V. last year, and am on pace to watch even less this year. As for the six packs of Bud, I might as well have sex in a canoe, because Budweiser is fucking close to water. I don't buy into your whole conspiracy theory, and your not nearly as bad as Smurf, who is downright insane. Assuming that the government is even organized enough to pull off half the shit you guys say it's doing I still don't see the motivation. Unless I'm just an idiot for not following right along with you 2?
I believe everything going down is direectly related to why the Piri Reis map shows the coast of Antartica. On 6th July 1960 the U. S. Air Force responded to Prof. Charles H. Hapgood of Keene College, specifically to his request for an evaluation of the ancient Piri Reis Map: So what the hell caused the ice? Why don't we seem to know anything of our history before the great deluge, the same one every culture seems to know about? The Egyptians explained why to Plato, and Plato explained why to us, but many dismissed it as false because their world was at a balance, and no great deeds were going on during their time. But I look around me and my time, and I see a great deed going on. You just have to know what to look for. Our history is crazy Diogenes. :wink:
WOW. I had to check out that Popular Mechanics site for myself... First of all, page 1: "Healthy skepticism, it seems, has curdled into paranoia." Well no shit, if our own guys are doing this shit then we have a reason to be paranoid, assholes. Page 2: Concerning the picture with the plane and the pod attached underneath it, "PM sent a digital scan of the original photo to Ronald Greeley, director of the Space Photography Laboratory at Arizona State University. Greeley is an expert at analyzing images to determine the shape and features of geological formations based on shadow and light effects. After studying the high-resolution image and comparing it to photos of a Boeing 767-200ER's undercarriage, Greeley dismissed the notion that the Howard photo reveals a "pod." In fact, the photo reveals only the Boeing's right fairing, a pronounced bulge that contains the landing gear." Oh thanks, ONE GUY, and there are plenty more people who said bullshit, yes it most certainly does reveal something that shouldn't be there. GOD I HATE THESE ASSHOLES! I wish I had a list with some of these Dwainefuckers so when this apocalypse starts and social order breaks down I could kill them. Continuing on though... Page 3: "Why couldn't ATC find the hijacked flights? When the hijackers turned off the planes' transponders, which broadcast identifying signals, ATC had to search 4500 identical radar blips crisscrossing some of the country's busiest air corridors. And NORAD's sophisticated radar? It ringed the continent, looking outward for threats, not inward. "It was like a doughnut," Martin says. "There was no coverage in the middle." Pre-9/11, flights originating in the States were not seen as threats and NORAD wasn't prepared to track them." Oh man I'm so PISSED. If you saw me right now you'd probably laugh, as I'm typing with one hand, clutching my chest in the throes of a painful heartattack with the other. EVERY OTHER PLANE HAS A TRANSPONDER, you find the blip without a transponder on it. We most certainly have radar that can find a flying object without a transponder, right? This article was written to impress the IDIOTS who already don't want to accept this conspiracy, and will be easily impressed by words like DOUGHNUT. No coverage in the middle? God they must think we're idiots. Page 3 cont. : "In the decade before 9/11, NORAD intercepted only one civilian plane over North America: golfer Payne Stewart's Learjet, in October 1999." Reeeeaaalllly? What about the one plane that's scattered over 8 square miles? Air Force Commanders are always watching their areas. Page 4: "The NIST investigation revealed that plane debris sliced through the utility shafts at the North Tower's core, creating a conduit for burning jet fuel--and fiery destruction throughout the building. "It's very hard to document where the fuel went," says Forman Williams, a NIST adviser and a combustion expert, "but if it's atomized and combustible and gets to an ignition source, it'll go off."" This one just infuriates me! GOD I HATE EVERYTHING! This doesn't explain the loud ass rumbles the firefighters heard coming from the BOTTOM of the building, did you catch that Ferine? Hmmm? Burning fuel makes a Woosh, not a BA-BA-BA-BOOM. Page 4 cont.: "Jet fuel burns at 800° to 1500°F, not hot enough to melt steel (2750°F). However, experts agree that for the towers to collapse, their steel frames didn't need to melt, they just had to lose some of their structural strength--and that required exposure to much less heat." You know what else also makes steel lose it structural integrity? Hmmm? Explosives. Page 4 cont.: "Once each tower began to collapse, the weight of all the floors above the collapsed zone bore down with pulverizing force on the highest intact floor. Unable to absorb the massive energy, that floor would fail, transmitting the forces to the floor below, allowing the collapse to progress downward through the building in a chain reaction." What else makes puffs of DAMN dust? Explosives! page 5: "On that graph, the 8- and 10-second collapses appear--misleadingly--as a pair of sudden spikes. Lamont-Doherty's 40-second plot of the same data (Graph 2) gives a much more detailed picture: The seismic waves--blue for the South Tower, red for the North Tower--start small and then escalate as the buildings rumble to the ground. Translation: no bombs." What the fuck ever. It doesn't prove shit, eh? This is the same kind of shit we saw with the Oklahoma incident and it's 3 spikes. No bomb? These guys are idiots, and they conveniently left out the other damn spikes, like the explosions the firefighters heard from the base of the tower, and said they were the planes crashing. Page 5 cont.: "Many conspiracy theorists point to FEMA's preliminary report, which said there was relatively light damage to WTC 7 prior to its collapse. With the benefit of more time and resources, NIST researchers now support the working hypothesis that WTC 7 was far more compromised by falling debris than the FEMA report indicated. "The most important thing we found was that there was, in fact, physical damage to the south face of building 7," NIST's Sunder tells PM. "On about a third of the face to the center and to the bottom--approximately 10 stories--about 25 percent of the depth of the building was scooped out." NIST also discovered previously undocumented damage to WTC 7's upper stories and its southwest corner." Previously undocumented because it hadn't been blown up yet. Of course they're going to be saying they were thinking it was more damaged than they originally thought because the fucker came a-crashing down after they said it was fine, and they felt stupid. How the fuck do you just not notice some building compromising damage? You DON'T. "NIST investigators believe a combination of intense fire and severe structural damage contributed to the collapse, though assigning the exact proportion requires more research." More research? The shit has already been scrapped and sent off. Do they have to invent a new Deep Blue to handle this one? Only instead of playing chess, it lies its ass off and tells people these buildings are designed to collapse. page 6: Big Plane, Small Holes "When American Airlines Flight 77 hit the Pentagon's exterior wall, Ring E, it created a hole approximately 75 ft. wide, according to the ASCE Pentagon Building Performance Report. The exterior facade collapsed about 20 minutes after impact, but ASCE based its measurements of the original hole on the number of first-floor support columns that were destroyed or damaged. Computer simulations confirmed the findings." Amazing what they can do these days. I watched those simulations, and they're the most ridiculous pieces of crap I swear they were spooled out of Dwaines ass. I think everyone should have a glance at them so that we can all laugh at Ferine at the same time.
