I heard the news today, oh boy...

No lets do get back on topic. You like it you say its great. So get your ass over there and start mopping.

Liar :roll:

 

i'm still not getting what it is u claim i'm fibbing about.... that it was a good vacation? or that the people (whom i had met) aren't slaves with miserable lives?


as far as me moving there that's just the 4 year old in you coming out... like the whole.... "you don't like it in this country? so get out" argument

 

Smiles picks up communist talking points hand book says:

Joe says:

Smiles says:

 

woooooooooowzers joejoe is THAT the conversations you've been participating in? clearly one of us is crazy here...... i think we need a mediator here who can read all the posts and summarise them as you have from an objective perspective...... let's see what they've read into it

 

Well Smiles looks like I quoted your thoughts. It is so obvious how delusional you are. It's not your fault I suppose, but it is really sad.

 

From Newsmax.com

Just wondering Mr. Smiley maybe with your unique worldly insight you can explain to me why Castro's own daughter would have to disguise her self and sneak out of Cuba. For that matter why should she want to leave paradise?

 

joe if castro were the tyrant you'd like to portray him as wouldn’t his daughter have anything in the world she wanted? wouldn't she have the resources of an entire country at her disposal? so clearly SHE WASN'T being oppressed..... as to why she left... who knows.... people move/run away from home all the time.... let's not be naive and speculate

and joe... kindly go back and re-read all of the things i said and process them... NO WHERE did i claim it was paradise.... the people I HAD MET SEEMED to be CONTENT but once again you read into it whatever you wanted to, don’t worry, you’re not ignorant, pompous, narrow minded, or stereotype ridden, it’s the fault of shitty liberal educators J

 

I see you are comming around almost an admission.

 

yes joe, i admit it :roll:

 

Well ! For being a country under economic sanction by their neighbourly giant, USA, they sure have a w o n d e r f u l country.

You did not answer this question Joe but another example than that of the AlQuaeda having the resources of the department of defence, is one I gave a long time ago.

If USA had a sanctioning neighbour with 3 billion inhabitants and a superb economy some tens of miles away. How would you have retained your freedoms in light of foreign pressure ?

 

Well I guess you are saying that our country would be in economic termoil? If that were the case we would still be free. It is not a robust economy that creates freedom. It is being able to speak your mind. If you do not like that way your country is going then elect new representatives.

Cubans do not have this freedom. If you gave each of them a million dollars they still would not.

 

Nah ! You would ban pictures of che guevara and stick closer to the central US values to stay american instead of being cubanized.

A robust economy creates freedom. Well fed people usually dont revolt and that creates greater leniency from the top an down. Cubans vote, and if it is like in DDR back in the days they can vote for other than the communist party. The communists would still stay in majority of course, but people are quite into electing their representatives on the local level, and rthey again elect people to the national assembly.

Probably broader participation than in USA were only some sixty % vote and very few are part of the political process. You have one party more, and so what ?

 

Recently and by that I mean the last 20 or so years it is generally the politician that campaigns as a moderate that wins the election. The does not necessarily mean that the politician is a moderate but after all the rhetoric and political war mongering the majority is still moderate. That being said also there is a majority of people that are content with the status quota.