HOORAY for the U.S. of A!!!!

Discussion in 'General Mayhem' started by Nursey, Oct 8, 2006.

  1. Nursey

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    Yeah well, I'm sure there's lots of people who, just like you, are more interested in *hot pussy* than their children's future. "Gee pa...you're great!"

     
  2. Nursey

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  3. Joeslogic

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  4. ucicare

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    Keith Olbermann

    Keith Quote - "my own insecurities and neurotic behavior had led to many problems at work."

    Keith Quote - "work at MSNBC makes me ashamed, makes me depressed, and makes me cry."



    What else do you need to know?
     
  5. phatboy

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    Nursey, please dont get upset that I dont give a shit about Keith Olbermann and what he says. From someone living in 'thatch world' I would figure you, of all people, would know about giving up ones privacy and rights for security. How many cameras are in London, for your protection?

    Dont think that because Bush wants to beat terrorists with rubber hoses to get them to talk doesnt bother me, but if I bit on every piece of crappy media 'filmography' I'd be like smurf, well the old smurf anyways.

    I dont know if there is some belief that we citizens of the united states have direct access to the president at any given moment, where we could voice our concerns and opinions. Well we do have one way, but that happens once every 4 years. So once he's in, he's the guy. Isnt Tony still the PM over there?

    We are in a lose/lose situation. If we tighten down security and take every threat seriously we lose our civil liberties. If we dont tighten down then we face the threat of attack, again.

    Put yourself in his shoes. From one side they say it is his fault for 9.11, that he didnt do enough to prevent it, then when he does try to prevent anything else from happening, people say we are losing our rights. Duh.


    Shouldnt this be in cold sober????
     
  6. Schmed

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    NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER!!! plllbbbbbbbtttttttttttt
     
  7. TheGrimJesus

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    We had our rights stripped away today phat. That doesn't bother you at all?

    I just called my Senator and gave her an ear full.
     
  8. Nursey

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    I need to know why you are more interested in the petty discrediting of a newsreader than addressing the point being discussed, when that point is of such immense importance to all that America (supposedly?) stands for...or stood for, anyway.

    Phatboy, the main point of my post, incase you aren't aware, is the suspension of Habeus Corpus...one of the cornerstones of western democracy...


    But hey, dictatorships are ok as long as it's Bush who's the dictator.
     
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  10. Schmed

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    NEVER!
     
  11. phatboy

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    From the Library of Congress.....

    `(1) UNLAWFUL ENEMY COMBATANT- (A) The term `unlawful enemy combatant' means--

    `(i) a person who has engaged in hostilities or who has purposefully and materially supported hostilities against the United States or its co-belligerents who is not a lawful enemy combatant (including a person who is part of the Taliban, al Qaeda, or associated forces); or

    `(ii) a person who, before, on, or after the date of the enactment of the Military Commissions Act of 2006, has been determined to be an unlawful enemy combatant by a Combatant Status Review Tribunal or another competent tribunal established under the authority of the President or the Secretary of Defense.

    `(B) CO-BELLIGERENT- In this paragraph, the term `co-belligerent', with respect to the United States, means any State or armed force joining and directly engaged with the United States in hostilities or directly supporting hostilities against a common enemy.

    `(2) LAWFUL ENEMY COMBATANT- The term `lawful enemy combatant' means a person who is--

    `(A) a member of the regular forces of a State party engaged in hostilities against the United States;

    `(B) a member of a militia, volunteer corps, or organized resistance movement belonging to a State party engaged in such hostilities, which are under responsible command, wear a fixed distinctive sign recognizable at a distance, carry their arms openly, and abide by the law of war; or

    `(C) a member of a regular armed force who professes allegiance to a government engaged in such hostilities, but not recognized by the United States.


    You can read the whole Act here, http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/F?c109:2:./temp/~c109twrsf8:e0:


    The president, nor Rumsfeld, can declare anyone an 'enemy combatant' they can form a commision and the commision can do so. I think Keith Olbermanns' loose interpretation of the Act is where my issue lies. It's like saying 'Jaws' is a movie about a fish.
     
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    So if I read this correctly, Nursey is a "enemy combatant."

    I knew it all along.
     
  13. smiles

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    but the president and rumsfeld choose who does the choosing correct? hitler never killed a jew in his life.... it was those other guys.....
     
  14. Joeslogic

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    Let's do what ever Smiles deems as the logical choice. He is the one that grinned from ear to ear when he herd that terrorist had flown planes into the buildings on 911.

     
  15. smiles

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    u want me to make that my sig?
     
  16. Joeslogic

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    Perfectly all right with me Smiles if your going to believe something then do it stop hiding in shame. I want it to be known when ever you are arguing that Bush has decimated the rights of the American people just exactly where it is you are coming from.
     
  17. smiles

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    yes joe you've uncovered my shame...... that i posted.... on the internet..... repeatedly..... along with pictures of myself..... you ol' sleuth you!


    and don't worry joe, bush has decimated the rights of ALLLLL KIIIIIINDS of people not just americans.... don't feel TOOOOO special

    * as a political disclaimer I’m not so much anti-bush as I am anti-american politics in general.... especially when they involve dropping bombs on my family,
     
  18. ucicare

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    So Smiles is a "enemy combatant" too????

    I knew it all along.
     
  19. phatboy

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    This place is going to be empty in no time.......
     
  20. Joeslogic

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    Fuck your family Smiles to bad they all were not taken out.
     

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