i do to, its pretty fun most of the time, always interesting. i have nothing really to say about Alabama as long as nothing really is brought up about Texas. ive heard it all. oh and thank god i dont live in Connecticut, would be to cold for me, maybe not for Bush tho.
But the fact is, the video DOES depict a warcrime. The shortened version isolates the part of the video which does constitute a warcrime. If i read an article of 10 paragraphs which has only two paragraphs relevant to a point i'm making, am i misleading people by only posting those two paragraphs to make that point, after having made it clear that it is an excerpt from a much larger article? Nobody needs to mislead anyone when discrediting the U.S, it is doing a five star job of that by itself.
...and i'm still eagerly awaiting your comments on this article: Information Dominance: The Philosophy of Total Propaganda Control?
Ok, I read it again. I just don't see a problem with the concept. What is wrong with a superpower staying a superpower? If dominance in the information age is a way to maintain superiority, than by cracky, use it to your full advantage. The US is hated by most of the World anyway, and that won't change until the US is reduced to the same sucky exisitence that much of the rest of the planet is trapped in. I back my team. "Use the best you have to stay the best there is." I don't like being lied to, but I don't see this as a campaign of lies. Help me understand why the US SHOULDN'T do this. Barry
Do I have to go back to explaining the concept of being a good person/people, right and wrong...it's just that fucking simple, really it is..... A childhood hero of mine said it best ..."Life is the right of ALL sentient beings." Just becasue we (USA) have the power does not make what we say right,, nor is our living right for everyone. And I'm not talking about our way of living as in what a bunch of fuckholes the americans are in generral, I mean everything, me, you, etc etc. For instant just because I like peanut butter and jelly sandwhi8ches dosnt mean someone else is a bad evil person for not liking them, or for another instance just because Bush is a god fearing Christian dosnt mean that someone else that isnt is an infidel and their life is meaningless..you get where this is going yet??
Just gonna throw in a quick comment on the two different movieclips. As most others the first one i saw was the edited one, and I have to say after the seeing the second one you have to be very careful with making quick jugdements on seeing things on the internet. For some time I've been using the edited (before I knew it was edited) to show that America is using excesive force in Iraq, I still think they do, using a minigun to kill people on the ground, but in this case it was okay the guys had an RPG. I have now begun to show people the real version in an attempt to make up for my mistake.
Thanks for your rational thinking. Expect to be rewarded for your reversal of opinion by being shredded to pieces by the sharp beaked vultures of this forum. FYI - The Apache helicopter was over two miles away at the time of this engagement. The weapon of choice was a 30 cal exploding shell, which was not designed for use against people. The reason they used it is simple - it was the smallest thing they had. The mini gun you refer to is not in the arsenal of this helicopter, and would not have reached 2 miles even if it had been. My question is simple - if your goal is to KILL somebody, why does it make any difference how big a gun you use? Is it more "humane" to shoot them with small caliber stuff so that they sit there and slowly bleed to death? Should the crew have jetted over and politely asked the three to surrender? (I think not.) Thanks for your post, but put on your firesuit - flames are coming. Barry
I'm not the big military buff so I didn't know what they were firing. Ac puple of Hellfire could have done the same job much quicker, and it would have been less bloody. Mainly I oppose even realesing this video on the net, for two reasons: 1. It makes people hate the americans even more, and 2: What the hell is the point of realesing it?
And todays scrapbook cutout is .... Notice the little nazi flag on top. This piece was part of the spoils recovered from Hitler's office after the war. Barry
So who are you suggesting we hit back for this??? As far as I can tell it's not the tens of thousands of Iragi citizens we have bombed to to death that flew these planes into our buildings, nor anyone else we have attacked.
Schmeds right, Iraq had nothing to do with September 11th, it would be like attacking China because of Pearl Harbor.Seems to me Iraq got a good kicking coz "they all look alike."
[/quote] So who are you suggesting we hit back for this??? As far as I can tell it's not the tens of thousands of Iragi citizens we have bombed to to death that flew these planes into our buildings, nor anyone else we have attacked.[/quote] Dearest brainwashed friend, do you really believe that the US has bombed "tens of thousands" of Iraqi citizens? Could you offer even a shred of evidence that would support a number like that? Who do I suggest we hit back? I say we hit back at anyone whose ideology and policy supports Terrorism. (Please hold your breath about the US being the biggest terrorist state, etc. That is a lame, empty argument.) We hit the Taliban and Osama's bunch first in Afghanistan, and Iraq was a natural progression from there. Is there any doubt in your mind that Saddam and his regime were a threat to the Middle East, Israel and the World? Dd you forget that he invaded Kuwait without provocation? Did you forget that Saddam launched Scud missiles into Israel (without provocation from Israel) in 1991? Do you remember him stating proudly that "Israel is now a crematorium" after he did that? Do you remember Saddam using nerve gas against an ethnic minority? (Kurds) Do you remember that we put up with 10 years of his sociopatheic treatment of the UN, weapons inspectors, and World courts? It is my hope that the rest of the world sees that the US is serious about this, and will kick their ass next if they don't get their act together. Our invasion of Iraq certainly had a chilling effect on Mr Quadaffi. You are probably too young to remember him, but he and Lybia were a regular problem in the 1980's. Amazing what having your home bombed with a laser guided missle does to calm a dictators appetite for expansion. And then seeing your buddy across the street getting dragged out of a spider hole by US special forces...damn that encourages you to behave doesn't it? One thing that you seriously don't understand is that it is impossible to use reason with insane people. Any one that will strap a bomb to themselves and detonate it is INSANE. People who have lost touch with reality have to be dealt with forcibly. There is absolutely no other way. Is it a tragedy that innocent people are killed? Absolutely. But in my opinion, if innocent people are going to die, let it be them and not us. If we don't do something to stop INSANE people from attacking the innocent civilians of the US, the carnage WILL continue. I don't like the only alternative, but it is the only alternative. Life is tough and unfair, and only the strong survive. Get used to it. Barry
AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH! I can't bear it! It's one thing trying to reason with them and explain when they are just heavily indoctrinated, but when they've been fed nothing but the whole prepackaged, propagandist's equivalent of a 'Happy Meal' all their life, i'd say it's time to call in the cult deprogramming specialists
Who is the cultist? You are the one that believes that the US Government staged the whole 9/11 thing. If you took a poll among all the Psychiatrists in America, I believe they would vote heavily that you are harboring a non-bizarre delusion. Of course to you, all the brain power in America is part of the vast right wing conspiracy, yada yada .....baloney. Delusional thinking - I promise. I bet you a happy meal that you have been diagnosed as Bi-Polar, and refuse to take your meds. You have probably heard the words "Borderline" meantioned in reference to your name too. How perceptive is that oh exalted one? (Just cause I speak bluntly doesn't mean I dont care about your feelings. I still feel this strange intellectual bond wth your warpedness and I think that being mean and nasty must excite you greatly. Just trying to charge your batteries for another day. ) Your doughboy, Barry
