DYSFUNCTIONAL COUNTRY, DYSFUNCTIONAL FAMILY

Using logic to counter 911 non-thinkers

1. A building constructed over a highly sensitive, highly dangerous, highly expensive industrial site will be engineered and constructed that much stronger. Logical and rational, right? WTC-7 was engineered to be stronger, not weaker, than other buildings surrounding it, simply because it enclosed an electrical power station. But WTC-7 fell at near free fall speed. Logical deduction would conclude building 7 was purposely demolished at the end of the day on September 11, 2001, most likely to destroy evidence of arson and to clear the WTC site entirely.

2. Fuel fires burn intensely for short periods of time. Fuel fires also burn at well-known scientific temperatures. Scientifically, and thus logically, fuel fires cannot melt steel, which requires blast furnace conditions. Melted pools of steel were discovered, observed and recorded in the debris of three steel skyscrapers long after September 11, 2001. Logically then, fuel fires alone did not destroy the World Trade Center. Logically then, some other, far more powerful substance that could melt steel must have.

3. Passengers on commercial jets are required to check in at the desk and present their ticket and boarding pass. No passenger is allowed to board a major commercial carrier without first being logged onto a computer today. This list of passengers is called a flight manifest. This list of passengers is available to airline personnel within minutes. Logically then, the names of ALL hijackers should have appeared in the mainstream media hours (and days) after the flights crashed. They did not. Either there never were any hijackers or they boarded through the complicity of airline personnel, thus indicating a greater conspiracy. Logical.

4. When the chief of security of one government gives $100,000 to an alleged terrorist mastermind, and then meets with the security heads of the government to be attacked on the exact day of the attack, logically, some complicity is suspected. In the days before September 11, 2001 the head of Pakistani Intelligence, General Mahmoud Ahmed, wired $100,000 to the lead hijacker, Mohammed Atta. Ahmed then attended breakfast on the morning of 9-11 with Porter Goss, the head of the House Intelligence Committee (and the next head of the CIA) and Florida Senator Bob Graham. Coincidentally, Florida was home base to most of the alleged hijackers. According to the FBI, Indian Intelligence and several press reports, General Mahmoud Ahmad, the alleged "money-man" (to use the FBI expression), allegedly ordered the bank transfer of $100,000 to the accused 9/11 ring-leader, Mohamed Atta, and then met on the morning of the attack with a trio of US lawmakers and top intelligence insiders, Bob Graham, Porter Goss and Jon Kyl for a friendly breakfast. What exactly did they discuss? Logically then, one could conclude a huge conflict of interests. Logically one could conclude a vast government conspiracy. As if to confirm a government conspiracy between the two security states, $8 billion in US aid was funneled to Pakistan between 2002 and 2006, ostensibly to fight the war on terror. No word where that $100,000 came from (US taxpayers?), money that was wired to mastermind Atta to attack America.

5. Airplane parts are easily traceable. Airplane parts are stamped with serial numbers. Machined airplane parts are made to exact specifications. Logically an aviation expert could take any large, machined part from any of the 911 attack sites and say, yes or no, this part originated from a Boeing 757. Or did NOT originate from a Boeing 757, as Jon Carlson claims. Scientific study of the engine parts alone could have demolished any and all 911 conspiracies. Logical, correct? But because no such investigations were permitted or conducted, a huge government conspiracy appears likely. Logically then, one could conclude the conspirators had something to hide.

I have noted only FIVE suspicious anomalies. Dozens of other examples exist. For example the disappearance of the black boxes from the WTC. While first responders claimed the black boxes were found, the government denies it. Since most of the WTC debris was sifted and sorted (or melted), anyone could logically conclude the government had something to hide. Anyone could logically conclude, without too much effort, that 911 was an inside job and continues to be the greatest unsolved crime in American history.

 

FBI says, “No hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11”

 

Bin Laden says he wasn't behind attacks

 

http://www.gpoaccess.gov/911/pdf/sec9.pdf









I saw bin laden in that eminem video too.......

 

I guess we can rule out the video tape of him personally taking credit for it and saying that he planned it, right?

 

I don't understand how people can be so oblivious, it boggles the mind. ???

 

it's patriotism and allegiance.. it's been drummed in since birth... also not wanting to believe helps...

kindof like granny not wanting to believe little jimmy is a viscious animal abusing baby-raper.. even when the evidence and willing confession has been laid out there..


oh and hating brown people comes easily

 

They are more like urine color. Brown would be more like African.

I am sure that if I really wanted to waste my time, I could locate a whole bunch of sources on the internet, which noone has their own agenda on the internet, and produce piles of 'evidence' located to prove it was not the 'gubment' as you would have us believe. But Charlie Sheen said it was so, so it must be. But I am sure getting 3rd hand evidence of what someone thinks is good enough for some.

AND NO ONE HAS ANSWERED THE QUESTION. WHY?

What does the government have to gain by killing over 3000 of it's own citizens?

I dont want to hear the BS about "Its a war for oil" cause that is BS.

W wanted to finish his daddies war.....BS

To invade privacy with Homeland Security.......I think anyone living in a country that can follow a soccer 'hooligan' from the stadium to the suburbs has no room to say 'invasion of privacy.

So that leave us with:

We had some new weapons we wanted to test out.

Or maybe, just maybe

It was that radical islamics hate America so much that they would do anything, including killing themselves, to attack us. Kinda like the little korean kid that was upset at the "Rich Kids" and wanted to kill them. I guess our years of Fried Chicken, Collard Greens, Pecan Pie and Sweet Tea have driven those simple minded enough to be talked into killing themselves for someone elses ideas. If killing "infadels" and becoming a martyr is the fastest way to meet allah, why hasnt bin laden done it? Why wouldnt the leaders be the first inline? How much of a sheep do you have to be to not ask, "Hey why havent you 'crossed over' yet? Since it is so great..."

 

They killed 3000 people to scare the public into thinking there was a serious threat, so they could push with their pre-planned military operation smoothly, which was already ready to go, they just needed the signal and the 'reason'

Forces are converging on Iran now, then we will get another 'scare', like the sailors thing tried to be and then they will have a good excuse.

Iran knows whats up, its being pushed into a corner and I think is at least trying to play a bit fair, but America is not playing fair.

It is about oil in one respect, but its also about tactical placement in that region, there's just no other reason why a nation would take these consequtive bordered regions, unless it wants something long term done with it.

 

USS Cole, 93 WTC Bombing, Battle of Mogadishu (Blackhawk Down), 98 US Embassy Bombing, 9/11, do I need to go on? How many times do you take a punch before you swing back?

And now the Brits are in on the conspiracy?

Too many lips for there not to be a leak.

 

"There is a chance for the President of the United States to use this (9-11) disaster to carry out ... a new world order."
-- Gary Hart, former Colorado Senator, at a televised meeting organized by the CFR in Washington, D.C. Sept 14, 2001.

"We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order."
-- David Rockefeller

"Why of course the people don't want war ... But after all it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship ... Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."
— Herman Goering Nazi Air Force (Luftwaffe) commander at the Nuremberg Trials, 1946

"Terrorism is the best political weapon for nothing drives people harder than a fear of sudden death."
-- Adolf Hitler

"The easiest way to gain control of a population is to carry out acts of terror. [The public] will clamor for such laws if their personal security is threatened".
-- Josef Stalin

But there are...numerous leaks, though they are immediately ruled out by people like you who, when faced with such info, say that the whole thing is too insane to even consider. But now that, after much debate you can no longer deny that we are in fact bringing up a whole range of perfectly rational, valid points that back up our argument...you look for something else from some other angle to throw in the path to keep the disturbing implications at bay from your safe, familiar bubble? Anything but face facts. Really, it doesn't matter how compelling a case is made, you refuse to even hear it and so keep continually shifting the goal posts.

I think you've wasted quite enough time doing that already haven't you? Culminating in this thinly masked admittance of defeat. You've just had enough of your arguments steamrolled to know it's time to bail out with some utterly crap excuse. So, it's a waste of time investigating further because you already, like, KNOW the 'gubment' didn't do it, so that's, like, the case closed? Yeah, scurry off. Find some hole to plunge your head into.

You're right. We're just those people that are saying it because Charlie Sheen says it. Or Michael Moor. Or Rosie O' Donnell. Even though we pre-empted them all by years. Kindly refrain from projecting your own mindset onto us, moron. :-\

Now for the '2 minutes of hate':

Wow. You sure is smarter than a fifth grader, phatty! Genius, even.

 

i think perhaps you've misled yourself..
that day 4 years ago when you saw your president on that carrier making that epic speech.. he wasn't strictly in king leonidas mode..
though it is the nearest he's come to 'real soldierin'

 

At least Alec Baldwin agrees with you Nursey I guess that gives you some comfort.

 

there are millions of assholes in the world joe... sooner or later assholes are gonna share your viewpoints

 

Yeah but you have to be a particular kind of asshole to be protected. Imune to ridicule. Have microphones put in your face for your Anti-American opinion.

 

i thought americans didn't do jealousy, they do aspiration!

 

I'd like someone to explain the coincidence that all the biggest pot smoker dumbass tards I know are the only ones suggesting that 9-11 was a conspiracy by the government. Now that is a coincidence. I can only imagine what would happen if these morons were in medicine. They would be killing people right and left with their half baked or wholly "baked" drug induced damaged sub par to begin with brain dysfunctional paranoia unable to sort out any kind of truth from fiction to make any kind of logical decisions or recommendations

 

that was me

i don't smoke pot

 

Ever have your head bouced off a telephone poll? What was your GPA in college if you attended college? Ever make the dean's list? Ever flunk any classes? Ever been hospitalized for paranoid schizophrenia, ever been diagnosed with a bipolar disorder? Ever use any drugs like ectasy? Ever abuse cocaine? Ever use any injectable illicit drugs? Did your mother drink extensively while pregnant with you? Ever been diagnosed with ADHD? Were you born full term? Have you ever had withdrawal symptoms from alcohol abuse? Have you ever been given a "rally bag" at a hospital? Have you ever been advised by a carerr guidance counselor that you are best suited for the service industry such as McDonalds?