Reiz, there is NOTHING funny about depression. We did get some good news today. My daughter is much better. She saw the Doctor, and the Doc feels that we may just be dealing with depression that became psychotic in intensity. She took my daughter off of all meds, except she doubled the Zoloft that she was already taking. Things are much better. There is some speculation that the Ritalin she was taking triggered the manic episode. That would be great news if it is true. Reiz, I go through depression occasionally but it rarely last long. It can be intense, but is usually short lived. Doctor says it is just my AD/HD. The only thing that helps me is exercise. All the meds just made me feel dead. The problem is - when you are depressed, the last thing you want to do is exercise. Hang in there. It gets better eventually. I have also found that writing helps me. Go read some of the morbid poetry I wrote last week, it's posted in here somewhere. I feel great today. No way I could write something like that now. Barry
ucicare.. doesn't it seem though like people are getting drugged up over shit that didn't exist 50 years ago, I know that we're only starting to explore the human mind and that only recently were many of these former "character flaws" classified as illnesses but does no one else notice that no other place in the world seems to be having these problems? ... well at least to the extent to which the western world is. I come from a war torn eastern european country, terrible shit has happened people did terrible things and terrible things in turn were done to them, if anywhere in the world there should be depressed people hanging form trees it's a place like this... yet it's almost like it's the opposite... everyone's a part of their community and clinical depression is rare. i guess my inquiry has more to do with this... are all of these drugs ACTUALY helping alleviate peoples illnesses... is it not more of an environmental issue? it just seems to me like everyone's so quick nowadays for a quickfix you know... pop some pills and go to sleep type of mentality... are we really getting at the roots of the issue or are we just spraying the lawn so we don't have to see it's ugly head...
Exactly! Well put, though i think the answer is more to do with this "everyone's a part of their community and clinical depression is rare" than pollution. Modern capitalist society has seen a disintegration of communities and the family. I believe that individualism is at the root of a lot of problems now and that extended families are the natural order of things. Don't get me wrong (as i think Dubya possibley did with a comment to do with lonliness earlier), variation occurs in any culture, but when the fabric of a whole society places emphasis on the individual, problems are likely to abound. At least we had communities to bound our small nuclear units together before, but these are fast disappearing. In the United Kingdom, Margaret Thatcher brought about the most significant changes in this area during her 'iron reign' when she started dismantling our institutions in order to privatise them and destroying livlihoods of whole communities (remember the miners strike?) during the eighties.
i saw a snippet about this in todays guardian and thought it was pretty relevant to this thread... so i googled a wee bit when i got home for some relevant articles.... http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/mld/myrtlebeachonline/business/9824781.htm
nursey when i said, "is it not more of an environmental issue?" i was referring to peoples surroundings e.g. work, family, I was trying to ask weather a person can be "cured" of their illness without being taken out of the situation that's causing it in the first place by just pumping them full of drugs, I mean you can't cure a liver if u keep drinking nor can you cure the side effects of a heroin addiction without actually stopping to use it. I understand once again that the brain is a much more complex organ then the liver or any other but regardless doesn't it seem like we're just painting over the problem to give an impression of normalcy? nursey i do also think that you have a good point about the family because it is the basic unit of any society, once we disregard its function and importance we revert to a sort of computer porn downloading, self gratifying, nomads
Hey Smiles, are the holidays a harder time for you? Hope you are doing OK. I'm thinking good thoughts for you. Barry
well to be honest i have no friends, my girl friend wont fuck me because of a peculiar growth on my scrotum, my parents despise me, i don't bathe, I eat raw fish without ever brushing, i masturbate, don't wash up then shake hands with strangers.... for some reason people don't like me *shrugs*
Hey, I thought I would give a quick update on my daughters illness. She is really doing great right now. The Doctors did a lot of testing, and they now think she has severe depression and not bi-polar. They also think that one of the meds she was taking was causing problems. Anyway, she is down to just one med (Zoloft) and is doing wonderfully well. She is back in school, and is staying safe. Good news for a change. Barry
