Apparently to me that the media is afraid of Condi

There the problem is Dio where is the line drawn? What about the Meese Commision? Where is the line of decency? You baby-sit your nieces and nephews don't you?

Send them over to my place so I can experiment weather the subjective lyrics of ___insert name here___ have a detrimental effect on the outlook and perception of a young impressionable mind.

Stupid dumbed down juveniles have been so institutionalized in our as a culture it’s pathetic. These mental midgets making music need to be parented these days. It does not take a rocket scientist to write a lyric that says you fucked a cadaver and got blood on your dick. But damn if it doesn’t make some money cause the cult of shock personality means its cool.

 

Really Joe, when was the last top 40 album that said they fucked a cadaver and got blood on their dick? How about top 100, or top 200? Parents should be careful of what their children listen too. I don't need the government to tell me what my kids should and shouldn't be listening to. But since you're such a fan of big government, you have no problem with that.

The Meese commision stated that children exposed to sexually explicit material were damaged in some way, but they never explained how. The Johnson administration launched 86 studies of the effects of pornography on children, and they all came back that the effects of pornography on children was negligible. Which is true. The studies also found that children raised in conservative christian households that held the view of sex being sinful were 20% more likely to become sex offenders. The Meese commision took those same studies, and said that porn was bad and conservative christian views of the world produced healthier children. Do you know how they justified those findings? They said that the original studies were tainted by "liberal" bias and that they had found the true results of the study. Fuck the moral majority.

 

I'm not going to argue that the government needs to be monitoring what the parents should and its nice to see that you are now squarely in my corner on that one.

Now let’s take that same mentality into the public school system. Reading, Writing, and Arithmetic, That’s all we need to be teaching so let’s get the hell out of the whole sociology / morality this is what’s right kick. Leave that up to the mush brained sitting on the couch giggling at south park parents.

You see Dio it comes from all directions. Moderation how about it?

 

I think it's important to study sociology and psychology and soft sciences. I never got the impression from my sociology classes that I should be doing anything, since sociology is the study of mass groups of people. My classes that I took never stated what should be done, they simply stated what is. The government solutions to what is might have been taught in history class, but your idea that the education system is biased is bullshit. You could possibly say that about the art/music departments, but that's about it. The rest of the classes are pretty well balanced and fair about how they provide the information. How do you think it is that intelligent design is even being discussed as possible curriculum if their is such an atheist/liberal bias?

 

After being suppressed for a good long time, the collective consciousness is once again feeling the need for some higher purpose, because our situation on this planet largely sucks? That's how I explain it. Science hasn't fulfilled all of its promises, and our condition is deteriorating, so all the people getting the short straws in life quickly add up to a level where it can finally impact our lives in some way.

 

What is , yes Dio that is the question isn't it?

 

Not really, whatever conclusions people jumped to were their own.

 

It would do no good to try insulting and I don't mean to you have to really think about it. Teaching the social sciences for instance by teachers 90 percent of which are union socialist? You have to be really extremely naive to believe that they have no agenda much less the impossibility at being remotely objective. And I do not believe you are that naïve. Parents should be the ones who consider the merits of moral character, make judgment calls as to what character is and means and how that translated into societal behavior to children.

 

And I'm telling you that in spite of that I drew my own conclusions, as did most of my classmates, based on what my parents taught me. You're argument is based on inflated effects. You're overestimating the effect teachers have on students.

 

A dim ray of hope Dio I would like to think those words are true, make a real believable (for a skeptic like me) case and you’ve really made my day.

 

Ok, how many people even follow the news or know what's going on? Less then 50% of the population votes, so how can the propaganda machine be working as well as you say it is? And by the way, most of the people who don't vote fall under the democrats demographic.

 

Polls I believe are a good indicator.

Bush’s wins get little media attention

 

So what? The media didn't exactly plaster evey success Clinton had all over the place now did they? You're concept of media bias is basically the American right whining that the media isn't cheerleading for them enough.

 

If you are open minded and pay attention Dio it takes time but you will also see the track record and know what I am talking about.

 

So you're saying that if I look hard enough and long enough I'll see something that isn't there. You sound like smurf.

 

Damn Dio that was a low blow. Looks like you have allready made your mind up. Nothing open here for ideas.

 

If you remember correctly I am the one person in fuglyforums to have ever changed my opinion about anything ever. If one person in here can say they are open to new ideas, it's me.

 

I think people change their way of thinking often. Some will never admit it but they do. Like I said there is nothing I like to hear more than that people are not as influenced by media lies to the extent that I think they are. Each election year that fact that turnout for the left is not what matches polls leads me to the conclusion that they are not sure of their convictions. I may be incorrect in my line of thinking however I'm still sticking to my stratagy of showing propaganda for what it is.

 

The left is an extremely diverse group. They don't fall in line the way the right does. An indication that left wing propoganda isn't nearly as effective as right wing propoganda. Nobody plays dirty like Republicans. Check out the Karl Rove documentary "Bush's Brain".

 

One insult after another. Trust me the right is more diverse than the left hence the fact that a third party of independants hurts the right more than the green party hurts the left. With that said I'm becomming groggy which means thank god the four whiskey sours, Two benadryl, and one ... I dunno soma? whatever the walgreens brand is. will actually enable me to get som,e sleep prior to midnight. Goognight Dio.