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  1. Joeslogic

    Joeslogic Active Member

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    What is with all the Halliburton conspiracy theories? Its like any other major project undertaking you have to give the contract to someone that can handle the job. You want government job bid conspiracy theories. You only have to look at New Orleans. That levy was a money pit used by the state to embezzle money from the government for years. All money that would indirectly be funneled into some dem politician campaign fund.

    You have to give your contract to someone that you know you can trust and actually wants the project to be successfull and ontime. If Haliburton has the best record for this then piss on the other bidders.
     
  2. pimpchichi

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    pretty bloody expensive that halliburton is turning out to be..
     
  3. Joeslogic

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    Interesting theory, so how expensive is it?
     
  4. smiles

    smiles New Member

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    did you even click on schmed's link? please click on it... i urge you to save face...
     
  5. Joeslogic

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    Where is the link?
    or
    Should I just goto moveon.org and do a search?
    Maybe cpusa.org?
    or Guardian.co.uk is that it?

    Send me the link please
     
  6. Nursey

    Nursey Super Moderator

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  7. XerxesX

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    But you kill so many of your own citizens Joe. Why ? And most of the extra money you ( and international capital) scrounge from the poorest, go to attack other countries industries. Have you heard about the Levis sweatshops in the dominican republic?
    CokaColas kerbala-factory. How about the takeover of Malis agricultural production by sterile crops controlled by a mother-company ? Is this what you defend ? The dead Newfoundland-banks. The wild weather. What. And where is that "logic"-part.
    The Canadians have just the same problems you have: Just as many guns , just as violent entertainment. Equal imigration and ethnic disparity. Why are your citizens suffering from so many extra ailments ? Is that your freedom ? You are just BIG, and after euroculture was finished conquering the world, europe collapsed on itself. Not much to it. No need for primitive National-patriotism. Yes maybe all "leftism" lead right to dark moskow-style communism. Just like the fat-cat propaganda you spew out lead right through facism like your torturer-stooge Pinochet and all the way to Hitler. ( Who by the way, recieved money from the USA before the war , because you were so afraid of the Commies )
    By the way. Logic is a philosophical diciplin. Maybe study ?
     
  8. lucyharper

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    There is no link joe. They trying to attack you from all sides, and feed you shit. Haliburton is the only company that can do the job. Look at it this way, it's a hell of a lot cheaper and more reliable than the U.N., which is a total waste.
     
  9. smiles

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    heh lucy harper.... every time you sit down to type something you look stupid... stop taking wild stabs in the dark and actually LOOK before you LEAP

    http://www.commondreams.org/views05/1014-24.htm

    can also be found in Schmed's "None of this should come as a surprise" thread that is conveniently staring back at you every time you open this forum

    lucy how do you know haliburton is the ONLY company that can do the job? How do you know that they’re even the BEST company for the job? You might dazzle your coworkers with these grandiose statements that you back with nothing simply because they know nothing, if you have a point to make back it up with examples….. or evidence … otherwise kindly shhhhhhhhh
     
  10. Nursey

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    Poor Lucy. Here you are...you'll find plenty of info on Halliburton in this list of assorted news links i've kindly provided. Hope that helps you out of the tight corner. :wink:
     
  11. lucyharper

    lucyharper Guest

    There's your link, Joe. I just love the way they kiss my ass. :lol:
     
  12. smiles

    smiles New Member

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    :roll:
     
  13. lucyharper

    lucyharper Guest

    I talked with Mr Cheney about your disapproval of the Haliburton situation and he assures me that he is as upset as you. He has promised me that the matter will get his utmost attention and that a speedy and comprehensive investigation of the scandal will be carried out by him personally. I expect that you are pleased to learn of this great news.
    p.s. No need to thank me, I like taking care of my friends!
    :D
     
  14. XerxesX

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    Dear Mr Logic. The Commie Tyrrany of Cuba has been under boycott from the USA fer a long time now. For the fourtenth year the UN
    ( commies , all ) have voted for the ban of these sanctions. The general idea being that Cuba should be able to feed its folks. USA voted against, with palau and two other nations or so. 4 countries abstained: These were Marocco, Iraq, Nicaragua, and El Salvador. ( Nuns in el salvador, eh ? ) The rest. Close to 200 countries wanted this inhuman boicott stopped.

    CommieBastardDicktator-Fidel is a Dicktator, ( or as one says, a president with extended powers, A WAR-President ) The population-ratio between Cuba and USA is about 1 to 25. This leads to the question:

    Do you think your prez would have extended powers if the USA had a hostile neighbour with a population of 3 billion a few miles from your shores ?

    Good luck with the logic :lol:
     
  15. Joeslogic

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    Man I've been busy lately. Thanks Lucy my unlikely but very resourceful ally, for the backup and actually dragging out the link. I haven’t had time to look at it yet. I will scan over it although I think it is a waste of time. I already laid out some scenarios of government bid corruption that they undoubtedly avoided doing any research on. They only look at the left wing propaganda that they are spoon fed. Xer... wtf how do you spell that never can remember or I would actually reply more often. You are correct for the most part in my opinion. That is why I choose to be independent the right is not always correct in there view. And Fascism is no better than Communism. But it is the extreme unbalance that I see right now ant the deception being placed on the people by the left that controls the media for the most part. The majority of the world has fallen to the belief that America is to blame for all the pain and suffering in the world. Total bullshit like that as if America is not the (by a large percentage) the largest supplier of relief in the world to countries in need. Canada? I have known a lot of Canadians and most I find very likeable but the facts are the facts. American afflictions? Well here is where you really start to get it all wrong and fall for the typical propaganda. We are fine here the news media is concentrating on bad news right now you may have noticed that the Republicans are in control of both the legislative and executive branch at this time. History has to be rewritten. During Clinton a 4.7 unemployment rate was great news. During Bush it’s a dire situation that needs addressing. Don't be so gullible.
     
  16. Joeslogic

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    Ok there I went to the page. Interesting go to the main page and scroll through the articles and see if there is one out of the hundreds that is not anti American, anti right. The name gives itself away http://www.commondreams.org/ hmmm. Sounds a lot like Communist dreams doesn’t it?

    There are very few large companies that are able to handle big contracts. Halliburton is one of them and Dick Cheney worked for the company. The left is acting as if this is the dark secret uncovered by them. Whoooooo! Aren’t they sooooo bright to protect us with this truth? Are we voting in some dumbass like Gore that had mediocre grades in school? And never held a real job? Cheney sold his Halliburton interest before the first election the left were totally aware of his stock at that time and tried to make a scandal of it then.
    I’m glad he is aware of how Halliburton works and can make things run smooth.

    There is nothing here guys. Look trying looking into the big fat government grants in the state of Louisiana over the past 20 years to fix the known levy problem. That is a really good example of corruption. Of course your left wing web pages are not going to spoon feed that to you. Try looking into how in the 90’s a company called Tyson was able to avoid government inspections while competing companies were inspected, fined and eventually run out of business allowing Tyson to purchase them on the cheep. There is an example of government corruption. Look into why millions of high quality diamonds were dumped into the American market during the 90’s where did they come from and who profited. You want a list of casualties during another administration well does your vaunted commondreams webpage list for you the administration casualties that occurred during a different administration? Of course it does not its only purpose is left wing propaganda in this case against the sitting president.

    http://www.zpub.com/un/un-bc-body.html Here investigate this list. Or avoid that and simply go to your puppet master left web page and see if you can find advise to discredit the list.
     
  17. Nursey

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    YA! Hugh betchaaa! Th' evil ones just aint sly enough to pull the wool over the eyes of a true red, white 'n blue, star-spangled banner banging yank! Better go 'n... smokem out! Git em tuh Gitmo 'n...string em up!

     
  18. smiles

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    we've gotten so sidetracked that i can scarcely remember what this argument was over..... ah yes.... the torturing of suspected terrorists.... that's what this debate was over.... certain people tried to justify it, other tried to scrutinize........ how we got to this point i dont know

    also... no one is supporting either leftist or rightist views on anything we're just simply trying to question why it's ok for america to once again define the word HYPOCRACY through their actions.... if you think i liked clinton i urge you to reconsider that notion the man has single handedly changed my own life and the lives of millions of others.... he was a slick weasel while GWB JR is a blatant one... i support neither... just challenge those that blindly do
     
  19. Joeslogic

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    Smiley I'm just looking at where you and your cronies get there info that’s all. Do you have any problem with the torture going on by the hands of the insurgents? Cause it looks as if you do not seem to mind it one bit. You tend to believe any little rumor that would put America and the current administration in a bad light. Is there anything you can say (without being sarcastic) that this administration has done that is positive?

    Cronies, yeah that’s right I committed the great sin of generalizing. Something not allowed to do unless referring to American politics. And you are changing the subject as typically you do when I make a valid point. It's the source of your information that’s the problem and you’re being gullible enough to drink all the propaganda in down to the last tasty drop. What ever floats your boat I suppose?
     
  20. smiles

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    ... actually i've been very careful to avoid being accused of using invalid information.... the only links i've used have been AP and CNN... if you even try arguing that those are leftist newspapers then you my friend belong on foxnews .... did i say i supported anyone being tortured? you argument runs along the lines of "well germans killed millions of jews, so why cant we kill millions of germans, they do it all the time, why is it ok for them".... i never said it was all right for anybody to use it especially the worlds greatest superpower.... nor is it all right for you to try to justify these means

    i guess it's my fault for falling for AP and CNN propaganda... those are clearly rebel news sources which have never been known to exaggerate the truth against the government.... clearly my fault

    as far as me changing the topic when you make a valid point... since when? we were getting way off-track on topics none of us knew enough about to speak let alone formulate an unbiased opinion
     

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