Your pro abortion Nursey so you have not got a leg to stand on. Had a few yourself didn’t you?. You’re seeing what it looked like when that Dr. stuck the suction tube and took out a chunk of your own gift of life’s back as a starter. So do not even go there. Whatever you feel like you got to do to support your fun habit of bumping and grinding uglies to your satisfaction with whatever comes around don't want to be inconvenienced by another life to be responsible for. I guess that you’re pretty pissed that Hezbollah terrorists were hiding behind a pregnant woman as a defense aren’t you. If so I'll await your denouncement of Hezbollah tactics. …….Still waiting …….. …….Still waiting ……. Not going to happen is it? Dio fact of the matter is: The same Democrats who say there are/were no weapons said their was. "Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..." - Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003 | Source "I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security." - Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002 | Source "One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line." - President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998 | Source "If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program." - President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998 | Source "We must stop Saddam from ever again jeopardizing the stability and security of his neighbors with weapons of mass destruction." - Madeline Albright, Feb 1, 1998 | Source "He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983." - Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998 | Source "[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." Letter to President Clinton. - (D) Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, others, Oct. 9, 1998 | Source "Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." - Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998 | Source "Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies." - Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999 | Source "We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them." - Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002 | Source "We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country." - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002 | Source "Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002 | Source "We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." - Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002 | Source "The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..." - Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002 | Source "There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction." - Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002 | Source "In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons." - Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002 | Source "We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction." - Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002 | Source
Glennbeck compiled a few pictures of how Palestinians treat their own people. Here for your enjoyment all you who like to see this shit. Hooded Palestinian gunmen lift the body of a suspected collaborator in the West Bank city of Hebron, April 23, 2002. Gunmen killed three men suspected of collaborating with Israel at the scene of an overnight Israeli missile strike that killed two Palestinian militants in Hebron. REUTERS/Loay Abu Haykel Palestinians gather around a suspected collaborator who was shot dead by Palestinian gunmen in the West Bank city of Ramallah April 22, 2002. Israeli and Palestinian negotiators met to try to end a three-week-old standoff at Bethlehem's Church of the Nativity. Picture taken April 22, 2002. REUTERS/Henrik Flygare In this image taken from video, a suspected Palestinian collaborator bleeds on the ground after being shot in the West Bank town of Ramallah Monday, April 22, 2002. According to witnesses, masked gunmen shot three men in the main square of Ramallah, accusing the men of having provided intelligence to the Israeli military, leading to the capture of Fatah leader Marwan Barghouti last week. (AP Photo/APTN) In this image taken from video, a suspected Palestinian collaborator rolls over as he bleeds on the ground after being shot in the West Bank town of Ramallah Monday, April 22, 2002. According to witnesses, masked gunmen shot three men in the main square of Ramallah, accusing the men of having provided intelligence to the Israeli military, leading to the capture of Fatah leader Marwan Barghouti last week. (AP Photo/APTN) A Palestinian boy stands by as a man washes blood off the steps where a suspected Palestinian collaborator was dragged after being shot in Ramallah, West Bank, Monday, April 22, 2002. According to witnesses, masked gunmen shot three men in the main square of Ramallah, accusing the men of having provided intelligence to the Israeli military, leading to the capture of Palestinian Fatah leader Marwan Barghouti last week. (AP Photo/Muhammed Muheisen) A Palestinian man washes away blood off the stairs where a suspected Palestinian collaborator was dragged after being shot, in the West Bank town of Ramallah Monday, April 22, 2002. According to witnesses, masked gunmen shot three men in the main square of Ramallah, accusing the men of having provided intelligence to the Israeli military, leading to the capture of Fatah leader Marwan Barghouti last week. (AP Photo/Muhammed Muheisen) Two Palestinian men, suspected informers for Israel, are dragged on the streets in the southern West Bank town of Hebron, Tuesday, April 23, 2002. Three suspected informers were shot and killed by Palestinians in retaliation for a helicopter missile attack late Monday, which killed Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades Hebron Commander Marwan Zalloum and his bodyguard Samir Abu Ragap. (AP Photo/Nasser Shiyoukhi) Palestinians drag the body of a suspected collaborator in the West Bank city of Hebron, April 23, 2002. Photo by Loay Abu Haykel/Reuters Gunmen killed three men suspected of collaborating with Israel at the scene of an overnight Israeli missile strike that killed two Palestinian militants in Hebron. Palestinians drag the body of a suspected collaborator along a street in Hebron, West Bank, April 23, 2002. Gunmen killed three men suspected of collaborating with Israel at the scene of an overnight Israeli missile strike that resulted in the death of two Palestinian militants in Hebron. (Loay Abu Haykel/Reuters) A body of a suspected informer hangs by his foot from a power pole as a crowd, including children, watches, in the southern West Bank town of Hebron, Tuesday, April 23, 2002. Three Palestinians, suspected informers for Israel, were shot and killed in retaliation for an Israeli army helicopter gunship missile attack late Monday, which killed Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades Hebron Commander Marwan Zalloum and his bodyguard Samir Abu Ragap. (AP Photo/Lefteris Pitarakis) Palestinians drag the body of a suspected collaborator along a street in Hebron, West Bank, April 23, 2002. Gunmen killed three men suspected of collaborating with Israel at the scene of an overnight Israeli missile strike that resulted in the death of two Palestinian militants in Hebron. REUTERS/Loay Abu Haykel
Sadness Joe. People "over there" just don't understand. You can learn from Nursey and Diogenese, and they can learn from you. I don't think enough people can see things from your perspective, but I'm starting to understand you. You need to lighten up on the "use force to make them understand" tactic. You need to read "Kingdom Come" the graphic novel with Superman and all those guys. It's a perfect example of what unrelenting force can lead to. I can send you a zipped version, if you'd like.
What the fuck do democrats have to do with it Joe? When did I say the Democrats were right about any of this? When did I say this was about partisanship? When did I make this an issue of Democrats and Republicans? That's right, I never did, you're the one trying to make this a partisan issue. It's not about democrats and republicans. It is for you, since you neo-cons love to split issues based on partisanship and the "liberal media" but that's just not the case. Go ahead, keep following the Republican party and following the party line. I bet you'll be at the front of the line when they have the parade introducing the new colored shirts for the "morality" squads.
Hezbollah was using UN post as 'shield' Kofi Annan lied again bold face just like he let the Hezbollah build huge massive advanced underground bunker networks and weapons cache at the Lebanon boarder this in its self a dereliction of duty. He shows that he is actively assisting Hezbollah in their propaganda campaign. Gullible people like Nursey pick that shit up and get angry. It’s very dangerous. Kofi needs to be impeached.
wow.... apart from being pretty much wrong on almost all counts... (she's pro-choice not pro-abortion there is a wee bit of difference but thats a discussion for another time).. apart from that that was a pretty nasty minded attack from you there joe... whats wrong?.. annoyed that she hasn't replied to your sucky sucky PM's... judging by this latest diatribe of venemous filth to pour from your fingertips it looks like she was right not to reply
that should read wrong on ALL counts... as explained between the brackets... since your nasty yet small mind could construe my almost as meaning she has had an abortion.. which of course she hasn't
Who cares what he thinks? The last person on this board you should be discussing my ~heavenly loins~ with is Joeslogic.:|
First of all I have no confidence in the integrity of what you say. If I were the gambling type I bet 9 to 10 odds you have. I'll say 9-10 odds you are lying on this one for the sake of argument. Second of all it makes no difference if you are pro-abortion then you cannot use that picture to bitch. There is nothing anymore morally corrupt about that baby then an aborted baby. Third of all I still have not herd you denounce the Hezbollah yet. Still waiting....... Waiting....... Not going to happen is it? Proof is already out there that a Hezbollah tactic is to use the cover of hospitals, civilian, u.n. post etc. Look acting offended on this one is not going to cut it. You are dead wrong for your bullshit picture post do this shit time and time again. You are dead wrong for not denouncing Hezbollah. It’s the same old shit all over the world anything happens look and seeks out propaganda to exploit. Somehow America is wrong on everything and no one else is guilty of anything. Bullshit there and I say bullshit on the no abortion thing. It simply fits the M.O.
are you talking to me or nursey?... it seems you are answering my post yet talking to her... we're two seperate people... you are CLAAZEEEE
You're right Joe, killing babies is killing babies. But I think Nursey would know what she did is wrong, Joe, and she would still have the right to bitch about dead babies. That's if she ever had an abortion like you assume she did. In this world there is right and wrong, and the distinction between the two is not that hard to make. Denounce all the wrong that is going on over there, from either side. Just because Israel is being viewed as the agressor by the liberals does not mean EVERYONE involved is not wrong. But then, you and everyone else capable of liberated thought already knows that. So why are you trying to push buttons? Agree with them, Joe, and then throw in your two cents. If the road to peace is not the one you want to take, then so what? It's the road to peace.
I would assume the odds are very much in the favor that she did regardless of her retort to my statement for dramatic effect. But that having been said she would have every right to bitch absolutely. IF and that’s a big IF she were against abortion instead of “pro-abortion.” Also regarding the picture. I showed proof via an e-mail between a now blown to bits U.N. observer that the responsibility for that baby specifically lies in the hands of Hezbollah terrorists. It is their tactic to indiscriminately lob missiles into Israel (WHO THE FUCK DO YOU THINK THOSE COCKSUCKERS ARE TARGETING!!!!!) and all the while hiding like the shitbag lower than life scum that they are under the skirts of pregnant women. Transporting weapons and important military tacticians via Ambulance. And setting up missile launch positions within the so called protected zones. Hezbollah is to blame for that picture. The reason is because they were launching the missiles from that location on purpose for a tactical advantage. Let me ask you a question is Israel supposed to stand their with their hands in their pockets while their families are bombed with missiles because the shitbags their fighting are launching missiles from the protective skirts of pregnant women? Nuresy is no fucking better. Ask her about the messages that Pimp is referring to. Go ahead ask her I tried to reason with that shitbag baby killing and liking it cunt. Hey Nursey when they were pulling that half lifeless fetus out of your cunt did it make you get all wet? Nursey deserves no fucking respect. Until I see her post what I asked her to. She has to denounce Hezbollah shitbags and say she was wrong for assisting their pathetic cause with that picture.
Wow Joe. How many fallacies can you pack into one argument? Pro-choice and pro-abortion are not the same. Hezbollah is not at fault, but they do bear some responsibility. Where is your evidence that states the ambulance was carrying supplies and munitions? If you don't have evidence that your argument is cogent then you don't have a leg to stand on. You don't have the right to demand anything of Nursey. You don't know Nursey, therefore you have no grounds to question her integrity, yet you do anyhow. This thread has nothing to do with America. Nursey hasn't mentioned American actions, therefore you should probably leave the U.S. out of this one. As for Nursey's fallacies, you must think quite highly of yourself and your "heavenly loins".
I stand on my superior principals and morality to that rotten perverted small insignificant piece of shit that would exploit the death of a baby like that. Nine tenths of the world seems to think that they need to take some moderate logical compromise on situations like this and that’s a crock of shit. Their entirely wrong and I am entirely right. Wrong open your mind and think either you do or do not have an abortion. Either you are pro life which is anti-abortion or you are pro-choice which is put simply pro-abortion. You cannot half step it. The difference is simply a form of life is subject to being snuffed in its infancy. Or a form of life is allowed to live. Israel is not targeting legitimate ambulances, U.N. posts, hospitals, Old folks homes. Israel for all the moronic dumb stupid fucks out there that are so stupid as to not know. Is desperately trying to survive. Israel is fighting an extremely honorable battle. Israel is and has been under increasingly violent attack for years. Israel made an agreement with the U.N. before pulling out of Lebanon just a few years ago that they would do so on the explicit condition that Southern Lebanon would not be allowed to remilitarize. Hezbollah is directly at fault for the civilian deaths in Lebanon. They are the only ones to share the blame for that baby in that picture. There is no shared guilt it is Hezbollah and Hezbollah alone. Period end of story. I actually believe Dio that your heart is in the right place. I'm sure you have listened to the wise and calm opinions of your collage ideologist who would present the case the more level heads will prevail with compromise. The idea that guilt can be equally dispersed among both sides as common sense would suggest. I sent the link that backed up what military solders have said all along soldiers I know personally tell me of the same tactics in Iraq. If you desire to see the facts for what they are then simply open your eyes Dio. Close your ears to all the propaganda noise. Think about cause and effect, motive, who gains from blowing up a baby? What tactical advantage does that gain? If you are all wrapped up into the moment and what opinion (insert stupid left wing nutcase legitimized by the system) spews out of their shithole mouth. Then be that way there is nothing I can do for you. It is you who has to think for himself I cannot think for you. I would argue that I can demand anything of anyone I choose. Fact is though if you concentrate you will see the only so called demand that I made of Nursey was a condition to gaining my respect. That will never happen because she does not have it in her to admit how extremely wrong she is. She is rotten to the core as far as I’m concerned till she shows me different. I find it totally un-fathomable to believe that she is just an innocent victim of her own stupidity. I rather think she is conniving, viscous, and totally unreliable when posting in this type of format she just like the propaganda she uses understands what she is doing when she does it. Although there is a remote possibility that I am wrong on this I seriously doubt it really. True you have me on that one. Point being that in the middle of all this rant I personally identify with the Israeli position. Israel is Israel and America is America. However we are both in a war with Muslim extremists if we do not back them then in my opinion this is the beginning of the end for our way of life as we know it. Actually not the beginning as slow change in this country has been happening for a long time. This is a major, major back step. My fallacies are many I try to look at life without the rose colored glasses; facts are a bitch sometimes not facing them does not help. Don’t want to fight I'm for peace I wish I could give everyone a group hug and we could all just get along. Look my peeve has always been the media and established think police ideology. The world is getting to be like one big school of fish in an ocean sized circus with the media being the ring master mesmerizing the masses. Quite possibly Nursey is simply a victim swimming around in the mush trying hard to be exceptionally well versed in her ability to react to the beat of the ringmasters drum. Enough to gain the sense of respect of her peers. And for that I am sorry for her. But vile shit like that baby exploitation post drive me fucking nuts.
9/10 people in the world don't care about this conflict. So you are wrong again Joe. Second who is saying there needs to be a logical compromise? They are saying Israel has used an excessive amount of force in retaliation, which I think is true. Have you considered the position that they are punishing all Lebanese citizens for the crimes of a few? By that logic I'll present a syllogism for you. The purpose of a gun is to kill. That is the one and only purpose of a firearm. It is a weapon meant to maime, injure, and kill. If the sole purpose of a gun is to kill (it is, and don't try and say otherwise) then it logically follows that if you are in favor of people owning guns, then you are in favor of people killing each other. Pro-gun is pro-murder. Open your mind Joe.
