Give it up Wanker. There are very strong links between pot smoking and schizophrenia. In light of your preexisting disorders, and the fact that you are already so often delusional, I think it would be better if you stopped. Also avoid LSD. Stick to alcohol, Es and speed and any medication prescribed to you by your doctor.
I think better than giving up weed would be to quit your compulsive lying.You might wake up one day,like maybe you have today,and discover you've forgotten what's real and what's not anymore...snigger
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="verdana">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Extremly FUCKED OFF Wank: Good or bad? Im already mentally retarded (as I have just been told)- so should I give it up?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> bad... very bad... very very bad...
I just stick with booze, simply for the reason that I am still capable of fighting even when I am extremely drunk.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="verdana">quote:</font><HR>Some drugs are not for everyone. -------------------- <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>most drugs r for me
Like I said before, don't go changing yourself for those reasons. Personally I don't smoke much weed cos when I do it's usualy in the company of strangers, and if they say something I don't understand I presume they're taking the piss and I usualy boot the fuckers in the face. If you like the smoke though, stick with it and think about what's going on. If it's starting now, think about how it'll continue! (Wank knows what I mean)
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="verdana">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Stranger: There are very strong links between pot smoking and schizophrenia.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> I want proof.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="verdana">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Nauseous: I want proof. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Back when I was doing my Psych degree we had a very cool professor who set us the task of writing a paper on Pink Floyd The Wall. While most of the class focused on the Freudian aspects I was more interested in what type of drugs he was taking and what he would be diagnosed with. I did a lot of research on hellucinogens, psychopharmacology and pathophysiology. To the best of my memory and without regurgitating the whole paper, basically it comes down to this.. Patiens with schizophrenia have a hyperactive dopamine system.(this is one of the suspected causes of the disorder). Most of the antipsychotic medication prescribed to clients diagnosed with schzophrenia aims to increase leves of (or mimic) the lipid anandomide which reduces dopamine levels in the brain. THC increases dopamine production, giving you the altered state of reality. So smoking pot counteracts the medication bringing the client back to baseline and increases the positive symptoms in those not medicated (not positive as in 'good'. as in 'adds to' like hellucinations, delusions etc.. as opposed to 'negative symptoms' such as apathy, catatonic states etc..) The higher levels of dopamin produced by smoking pot can also trigger the onset of the disorder in those people with a predisposition to it. This is not to say that smoking weed causes schitzophrenia but if, for example, both your parents or your twin has the disorder you are a lot more likely to develope it yourself and smoking marijuana would not be advisable. So, yeah, none of this is 'proof' but there is no proof in psychology, no more than there is 'normal'. And I think pot is great myself, but like I said it is not good for everybody.
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Someone has been doing their homework! I thought you were implying that marijuana causes schizophrenia. Of course it doesn't. But, schizophrenics tend to 'self medicate' with marijuana (and alcohol). I myself smoke entirely too much pot. I was also told a year ago by my psychiatrist that I may be schizophrenic or have schizotypal personality disorder... I haven't went back since. He was a piece of shit doctor with one arm. I wasted hundreds of dollars going to that asshole. I've read a lot about schizophrenia and I can diagnose myself (for a helluva lot less than 150 bucks an hour) as not schizophrenic. I may be no slave to fashion, but I don't wear outlandish clothes. I also bathe regularly... actually more than regularly. (OCD perhaps? ) And I don't believe that I am The Virgin Mary or that Satan talks to me on a regular basis. But I can say that smoking pot makes me 10 times more flaky and paranoid. Back when online diagnosis was free here, I was diagnosed with all kinds of shit. Bottom line: Everyone's crazy.
