True Love

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  1. Nursey

    Nursey Active Member

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    Is The Intifada Over?


    "The Palestinian Intifada is over, and the Palestinians have lost"- - thus proclaimed the Jewish American columnist Charles Krauthammer in the Washington Post (June 18, 2004). Armed resistance has dwindled; there are no attacks on Israeli civilians; the Palestinians have been brought to their knees, thanks to the assassination of Palestinian leadership and to the Wall that has locked the unruly natives in their ghettos, wrote the Zionist stalwart. Is it true? Is the resistance over, and has the Holy Land been surrendered to the victor? Well, up to a point:

    Palestine can't be separated from the larger context: the battle for Palestine began in Jerusalem and Gaza, but now it rages in Falujah and Kerbala, notwithstanding the appointment of a CIA agent as a ruler of 'independent Iraq'; before coming back to Jerusalem, the war against Judeo-American domination probably will spread to Teheran, Damascus and even European capitals. But the Intifada in Palestine unsurprisingly ran out of steam.

    The military might of the Jewish state knows no rivals in the Middle East and beyond. Armed to the teeth, equipped with the latest American weaponry and nuclear, chemical and biological weapons of mass destruction, it is probably able to take on any army on earth. Every Israeli man and woman serves in the Army, and his or her military exploits are the necessary requirement for any career, from minister to hairdresser. This militarised settler society easily overpowered the thoroughly disarmed native population.

    The usual weapon of a Palestinian is a stone picked up on his hillside; their famed 'suicide-bombers' were rather manifestation of their indomitable spirit than a threat to Israel; hardly more than a nuisance from military point of view. Ordinary road accidents kill more Israelis than the Palestinians. None had military training; cordoned off from the outer world, a Palestinian could not obtain arms save those bootlegged by the renegade settlers; no wonder he could not defeat the steely rows of tanks and air-to-ground laser-guided missiles.

    Moreover, the Jews have a powerful secret weapon at their disposal - their readiness to ruin the land. Their well-planned artesian wells killed the springs of water and turned the Holy Land into parched desert. This week I walked along the watercourse of Ghor (Arugot, in Hebrew), formerly a perennial stream. Home to mountain goat and leopard, this spring dried up, as the nearby kibbutz of Ein Gedi bored a shaft, laid a pipe and caught the water to bottle and sell in Tel Aviv. The gentle slopes of Samaria are disfigured by new roads to new Jewish suburbs. In the North of Gaza strip, a green land of fragrant orchards is turned into black wilderness of Mordor with smouldering stubs of burned trees. In the ruined land, the settlers prevail over the natives.

    And still Krauthammer's declaration of victory is premature. This immigrants-versus-natives confrontation over the sweet land of Palestine reminds me the Knight's Tale, this first fruit of Chaucer, that tells of two brothers, Arcite and Palamon, madly in love with King's daughter Emely, 'fresh as May with blossoms born anew, all mild and reverent, her body washed with water from a well'.

    In order to win her hand, Arcite appealed to the God of War, and Palamon pled to the Goddess of Love. In the decisive tournament, Mars-inspired Arcite defeated the love-stricken Palamon, but he was not destined to wed the fair maiden: after his military victory, he collapsed and suddenly died. The God of War could deliver victory, but only the Goddess of Love could deliver the maiden. The gentle King gave his daughter to the defeated Knight, and 'with all bliss and joyous melody this Palamon hath wedded Emely', concludes Chaucer. Thus the English bard prophesied an event unexpected by the hard-nosed Krauthammer: people who love their land will have her, even if military victory will be had by their adversaries.

    For the land should be loved as Emely was loved by Palamon, as woman is loved by man; and such a love is beyond the abilities of most Jews. Some of them see in Palestine a symbol of God's promise to the people of Israel or a pledge of Messianic days, but such symbolic love is doomed to fail. Likewise, my French socialist friend married a Russian girl, for she symbolised Communism and Dostoyevsky, but their marriage broke down under the heavy load of symbolism.

    My English politician friend has married to obscure his sexual preferences; he was tired to explain the voters why he did not marry. Likewise, many Jews were tempted to embrace Zionism as they were tired of explaining why they have no land of their own. But tiredness is a poor basis for marriage, and a real woman and a real land weren't made to provide an excuse.

    The worst of all are Krauthammers, the American Jews who believe that a land they did not plough and did not seed can belong to them for they have the deed, like a summer cottage they rarely visit - they know no love, but an impotent sultan's jealousy to his bought-and-paid-for slave girl.

    The settlers proved their lack of true love at their withdrawal from Sinai in 1980s. Leaving these places after a short sojourn, they smashed everything they could lay their hands on, dynamited every house and bulldozed every garden and vineyard planted by native and imported hands. And now, discussing withdrawal from Gaza, the settlers swear they will obliterate all signs of life on their lands before surrendering them to the hated natives. This is not the way to deal with a loved land: a poet spread his tenderness towards his beloved like a carpet under her feet as she forsook him, and wished her to be happy with her new man, loved as much as he loved her,.

    Indeed, Palestinians never damaged their homes and gardens they were forced to leave, and beautiful old Arab houses and gardens in Talbieh and Ain Karim bear witness to their masters' love to the end. Not only their faith in eventual return kept them back from torching their trees and burning their houses down before fleeing to the refugee camps of Lebanon and Gaza - but their selfless love for the land and trees.

    The Holy Land is a common project by Our Lord God and by her people. He created her, and they attended to her, built her terraces, dug around olives, and worshipped her Lord on her high places. Just as the defeated Palamon won his fair Emely, the vanquished will inherit the land; while victorious in battle will perish unless they surrender to the Goddess of Love, love to the land and her people.


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  2. ucicare

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    "The usual weapon of a Palestinian is a stone picked up on his hillside;"

    Before I go to the garden, one more truth to refute a blatant lie from the article above. Count the rocks and see if it is true.

    Main Terrorist Attacks against Israeli Civilians and IDF Soldiers since the Onset of Ebb and Flow (* attacks on non-work days)

    * 29.9.2000 – Jewish New Year's Eve, the onset of the current conflict. Jewish visitors and policemen were attacked with rocks and Molotov cocktails at the Western Wall in Jerusalem. Dozens of Israeli policemen were wounded.

    12.10.2000 – Two reserve soldiers were lynched in Ramallah. The two soldiers were brutally murdered by a Palestinian mob, after having been detained in a Ramallah police station.

    19.10.2000 – Two Israeli hikers came under fire near Mount Eival. The entire rescue operation was conducted under continuous Palestinian fire, and the two were only rescued after nightfall; 1 Israeli was killed during exchange of fire, and 4 were wounded.

    2.11.2000 – A terrorist attack near Mahane Yehuda open market in Jerusalem. A car bomb carrying a powerful explosive device was detonated near the market; 2 Israelis were killed and 11 were wounded.

    20.11.2000 – A children's school bus was attacked by a rocket in Gush Katif; 2 Israelis were killed and 9 were wounded (including young children).

    14.2.2001 – A Palestinian terrorist took control over an Eged public transportation bus near Azur junction; 8 Israeli were killed and 3 soldiers were wounded in the hit-and-run.

    4.3.2001 – A suicide attack in Netanya; 3 Israeli civilians were killed and over 80 were wounded.

    18.3.2001 – For the first time since the onset of the conflict (and since 1967), Israeli territory was bombarded by mortar shells that were launched from the Gaza Strip.

    26.3.2001 – An Israeli infant was shot to death by a Palestinian sniper in Hebron. The infant's father was moderately wounded.

    * 18.5.2001 – A suicide attack near a shopping mall in Netanya; 5 Israeli civilians were killed and 110 were wounded.

    1 June 2001 – A suicide terrorist exploded at the entrance to a crowded seaside dance club in Tel Aviv; 21 were killed and 106 were wounded.

    9.8.2001 – A suicide terrorist exploded in Sbarro restaurant in the heart of Jerusalem; 15 Israelis were killed and dozens were wounded.

    9.9.2001 – A Palestinian terrorist opened fire towards a school teacher's bus heading towards a Judea & Samaria school; the bus driver and one teacher were killed and 3 other teachers were wounded.

    9.9.2001 – An Israeli Arab, resident of the Galilee, exploded at the entrance to the Naharia train station; 3 Israelis were killed and over 80 were wounded.

    9.9.2001 – Not long after the explosion in Naharia, a suicide terrorist exploded in a car near the Beit Lid junction; 13 Israelis were wounded.

    * 2.10.200 – Terrorist infiltration at Eli Sinai in the northern Gaza Strip (the first terrorist infiltration); 2 Israelis were killed.

    4.10.2001 – A shooting attack in the Afula central bus station - Palestinian terrorist disguised as IDF soldier opened; 3 civilians were killed.

    17.10.2001 – Knesset Member Rehav'am Ze'evi was killed by terrorists from the Palestinian Popular Front.

    28.10.2001 – A terrorist attack in the heart of Hadera; 4 women were killed.

    4.11.2001 – A shooting attack at an Israeli civilian bus traveling across the French Hill junction in Jerusalem; 2 youngsters were killed.

    24.11.2001 – Mortar bombs were launched towards Kfar Darom; 1 soldier was killed.

    27.11.2001 – A shooting attack in the Afula central bus station; 2 Israeli civilians were killed and 31 were wounded.

    29.11.2001 – A suicide terrorist exploded near IDF camp 80; 3 civilians were killed and 3 were wounded.

    1.12.2001 – Two suicide terrorists exploded inside a car bomb at the Ben Yehuda pedestrian mall in Jerusalem; 11 Israeli civilians were killed and 183 were wounded.

    2.12.2001 – A terrorist attack in downtown Haifa; 15 were killed.

    * 12.12.2001 – An attack on a non-armored passenger's bus en route to the community of Emanuel in Judea & Samaria; 10 were killed and about 30 were wounded.

    25.12.2001 – A terrorist attack at the Israeli-Jordanian border in the Beit She'an valley; 1 IDF soldier was killed, and 4 soldiers and officers were wounded.

    9.1.2002 – A terrorist attack at the Kerem Shalom post - Palestinian terrorists infiltrated into the post; 4 soldiers were killed.

    17.1.2002 – A Palestinian terrorist opened sporadic fire at a Bath Mitzvah party in Hadera; 6 civilians were killed and dozen were wounded.

    22.1.2002 – A shooting attack in Jerusalem; 2 were killed and dozens were wounded.

    27.1.2002 – A suicide attack in Jerusalem by a female terrorist; 1 Israeli was killed and over 100 were wounded.

    17.2.2002 – A suicide attack at a Karnei Shomron shopping mall; 3 were killed and 29 were wounded.

    20.2.2002 – A terrorist attack on an IDF post near the Ein Arik crossing, west to Ramallah; 6 soldiers were killed and 1 was wounded.

    3.3.2002 – A terrorist attack near the Kissufim crossing in southern Israel; 1 soldiers was killed and 4 were wounded.

    4.3.2002 – A suicide attack in the Beith Israel neighborhood in Jerusalem; 11 were killed.

    4.3.2002 – A shooting attack near Ofra; 7 soldiers and 3 civilians were killed.

    6.3.2002 – A terrorist attack at the Tel Aviv Sea Food restaurant (combined shooting, stabbing, and hand-grenades); 3 Israelis were killed.

    6.3.2002 – A suicide attack on a bus in Afula; 1 was killed and 15 were wounded.

    6.3.2002 – A shooting attack at the Tunnel road; 1 Israeli civilian was killed.

    8.3.2002 – A terrorist infiltration at the community of Atzmona; 18 were wounded.

    10.3.2002 – A shooting attack in the Natanya hotel and accommodation area; 2 Israeli civilians were killed.

    10.3.2002 – A suicide terrorist exploded at the entrance to Moment coffee house in the heart of Jerusalem; 11 were killed and about 50 were wounded.

    20.3.2002 – A terrorist attack on a paratroopers' encampment in the northern Jordan valley; 1 IDF officer was killed and 3 soldiers were wounded.

    21.3.2002 – A suicide terrorist exploded on a bus stop near village Musmus; 7 were killed (4 soldiers, 3 civilians), and 29 were wounded.

    25.3.2002 – A shooting attack towards an armored bus near the community of Ateret; 1 Israeli civilian was killed.

    * 27.3.2002 – Passover's Eve, a suicide attack at Park hotel in Netanya; 29 Israelis were killed and over 130 were wounded.

    * 28.3.2002 – A terrorist infiltration at the community of Elon More in Samaria; 4 Israelis were killed and 3 were wounded.

    * 29.3.2002 – A knife attack in the village of Netzarim in the northern Gaza Strip; 2 elderly civilians were killed.

    A suicide attack in Jerusalem; 2 were killed.

    31.3.2002 – A suicide attack in a Haifa restaurant; 15 were killed and about 45 were wounded.

    * 6.4.2002 – A terrorist infiltration at the community of Rafah-Yam at the southern Gaza Strip; 1 soldiers was killed and 5 Israeli civilians were wounded.

    10.4.2002 – A suicide attack on a bus at Yagur junction; 8 were killed and over 20 were wounded.

    * 12.4.2002 – A suicide attack by a female terrorist at the Ben Yehuda open market in Jerusalem; 6 were killed and 85 were wounded.

    A shooting attack in the Erez crossing; 1 was killed and 2 were wounded.

    * 27.4.2002 – A terrorist infiltration at the community of Adora; 4 civilians were killed, including a 5-year-old girl, and 7 were wounded.

    7.5.2002 – A suicide terrorist exploded at a pool club in Roshon Lezion; 15 civilians were killed and over 40 were wounded.

    * 18.5.2002 – A terrorist infiltration at the community of Beit El, north to Ramllah; 1 civilian was lightly wounded.

    19.5.2002 – A suicide terrorist exploded at a Netanya market; 3 civilians were killed and dozens were wounded.

    22.5.2002 – A suicide terrorist exploded at a crowded Rishon Lezion pedestrian-only street; 2 Israelis were killed and 33 were wounded.

    23.5.2002 – An explosive device was detonated on a fuel carrier at the Hertzlia Pi Glilot gas terminal; no casualties were sustained.

    23.5.2002 – An attempted attack at a southern Tel Aviv club; 3 were lightly wounded in the attack, which was thwarted by the security guard.

    27.5.2002 – A suicide attack at the Em Hamoshavot shopping mall in Petach Tikva; 2 civilians were killed and 53 were wounded.

    28.5.2002 – A shooting attack towards a car near the community of Ofra; 1 Israeli was killed and another was wounded.

    28.5.2002 – A terrorist infiltration at the community of Itamar; 3 yeshiva students were killed and 2 were wounded.

    * 31.5.2002 – An attempted attack at the community of Shavei Shomron; no casualties were sustained.

    5.6.2002 – A powerful car bomb exploded near an Eged bus at the Megiddo junction; 17 were killed (including 13 soldiers) and dozens were wounded.

    * 7.6.2002 – A terrorist infiltration at the community of Karmei Zur; 4 Israelis were killed and 3 were wounded.

    * 8.6.2002 - A terrorist infiltration at the community of Yitzhar in Samaria; 4 IDF soldiers were wounded.

    A terrorist infiltration at the community of Karmei Zur; 3 Israelis were killed and 6 were wounded.

    11.6.2002 – A suicide terrorist exploded near a Hertzlia restaurant; a 14-year-old girl was killed, and 15 other were wounded.

    18.6.2002 – A suicide terrorist exploded on an Eged bus at the Pat junction in Jerusalem; 19 Israelis were killed and 74 were wounded.

    19.6.2002 – A suicide terrorist exploded near a bus stop at the French Hill junction in Jerusalem; 7 were killed and about 50 were wounded.

    20.6.2002 – A terrorist infiltration at the community of Itamar. 5 were killed, including a mother and 3 of her children.

    16.7.2002 – A combined bombing and shooting attack at a bus en route to the community of Emmanuel; 9 were killed, including children.

    17.7.2002 – A double suicide attack in Neveh Sha'anan, near the old Tel Aviv central bus station; 4 were killed, including 3 foreigners.

    31.7.2002 – A bombing attack in the cafeteria of the Hebrew university in Jerusalem; 7 were killed, including 5 foreigners.

    4.8.2002 – A bombing attack on a bus near the Meron junction; 9 were killed and dozens were wounded.

    4.8.2002 – A shooting attack at the Schem gate in old Jerusalem; 2 were killed and 17 were wounded.

    * 10.8.2002 – A terrorist infiltration at the community of Mechora in the Jordan valley; 1 Israeli civilian was killed and another was severely wounded.

    * 31.8.2002 - A terrorist infiltration at the community of Bracha; 2 Israeli civilians were wounded.

    18.9.2002 – A suicide terrorist exploded at a bus stop near Um al-Fahm; 4 were killed, including 1 policeman.

    19.9.2002 – A suicide terrorist exploded on a bus in Tel Aviv; 6 were killed and about 70 were wounded.

    10.10.2002 – A suicide terrorist attempted to board a bus near the Bar Ilan university; 1 was killed and about 30 were wounded.

    21.10.2002 – A car bomb (approximately 100kg of explosives) was detonated at the Karkur junction, near a crowded bus; 14 were killed and 50 were wounded.

    27.10.2002 – A suicide terrorist exploded at an Ariel gas station; 2 officers and 1 NCO were killed, and about 20 others were wounded.

    4.11.2002 – A suicide terrorist exploded at the entrance to a Kfar Saba shopping mall. The security guard stopped the terrorist from entering, thus preventing more extensive casualties; the security guard and one civilian were killed, and about 70 were wounded.

    10.11.2002 – A terrorist infiltration at Kibbutz Metzer in Samaria; 5 Israelis were shot to death, including a mother and her two small infants.

    * 15.11.2002 – An attack at the "Prayer Route” in Hebron; armed terrorists ambushed a joint IDF-Border Police force that was securing prayers en route to Kiryat Arba; 12 IDF soldiers, Border Policeman, and members of the local security squad were killed, and 18 soldiers were wounded.

    21.11.2002 – A suicide terrorist exploded on Eged bus 20 in Jerusalem; 11 were killed and 50 were wounded.

    28.11.2002 – A terrorist opened fire near the Likud party offices in Beith She'an; 6 Israelis were killed and 43 were wounded.

    * 29.11.2002 – A terrorist infiltration at the community of Bdolah in the southern Gaza Strip; 2 Israeli civilians were wounded.

    12.12.2002 – Two IDF soldiers were killed near Abraham's tomb in Hebron.

    * 20.12.2002 – A resident of Netzer Hazani in the Gaza Strip was shot to death while driving.

    * 21.12.2002 – A terrorist attack in the community of Morag; no casualties were sustained.

    * 27.12.2002 – A shooting attack in the community of Otniel in southern Mt Hermon; 4 yeshiva students were killed, and 10 were wounded (including 4 yeshiva students and 6 IDF soldiers).

    5.1.2003 – A double suicide attack at the Neveh Sha'anan pedestrian mall, near the old bus station in Tel Aviv; 23 people were killed (including many foreigners) and about 100 were wounded.

    12.1.2003 – A shooting attack; 1 Israeli was killed, and 6 were wounded (including 2 Border Policemen).

    * 17.1.2003 – A terrorist infiltration at an Israeli community near Hebron; 1 Israeli civilian was killed and three were wounded.

    * 18.1.2003 – A shooting attack at an IDF post near Hebron; 1 Israeli civilian was killed and 3 were wounded.

    5.3.2003 – A suicide terrorist exploded on an Eged bus in Haifa; 17 Israelis were killed (including 2 IDF soldiers) and dozens were wounded.

    * 7.3.2003 – A terrorist infiltration at Kiryat Arba; 2 Israelis were killed and 3 were wounded (including 1 IDF soldier).

    Two armed terrorists were spotted outside the community of Negohot. During exchange of fire with local IDF force, an explosive belt worn by one of the terrorists exploded, killing both terrorists.

    30.3.2003 – A suicide attack at the entrance to the London coffee house in Netanya; 58 were wounded.

    24.4.2003 – A suicide terrorist attempted to enter the Kfar Saba train station, but was blocked by the security guard; the security guard was killed, and 14 others were wounded.

    30.4.2003 – A suicide terrorist exploded at the entrance to the seaside club Mike's Place in Tel Aviv; 3 Israelis were killed and about 60 were wounded.

    * 17.5.2003 – A suicide terrorist exploded near an Israeli couple in Hebron; the two were killed.

    Two terrorists armed with Kalashnikov-type rifles infiltrated into the community of Sheare Tikva; a reserve force rushed to the scene and killed the terrorists.

    8.6.2003 – A shooting attack perpetrated by a terrorist disguised in IDF uniform at an IDF post near Erez crossing in the northern Gaza Strip; 4 were killed and 4 were wounded.

    11.6.2003 – Palestinian snipers shot to death an IDF soldier in Hebron after having attacked and wounded a Border policeman.

    11.6.2003 – A suicide attack on Eged bus 14a in Jaffa st, Jerusalem; 17 were killed and over 100 were wounded.

    * 13.6.2003 – A Palestinian sniper killed an IDF soldier patrolling in Jenin.

    17.6.2003 – A shooting attack near Kibbutz Eyal on the trans-Israel highway; the snipers were located at the outskirts of Kalkilya; a 7-year-old was killed and 3 of her relatives were wounded.

    19.6.2003 – A suicide terrorists exploded in a grocery in Sede Trumot; 1 Israeli was killed.

    * 20.6.2003 – A shooting attack towards a car near Ofra; 1 Israeli was killed and 3 were wounded.

    26.6.2003 – A terrorist attack in Baq'a al-Garbia; 1 Israeli was killed.

    30.6.2003 – A shooting attack at the Ya'abed circular road in northern Samaria; 1 foreigner was killed.

    6.7.2003 – A suicide attack in Kfar Ya'abtz; a 65-year-old woman was killed and 3 of her grandchildren were wounded.

    15.7.2003 – A knife attack at the Tel Aviv seaside; 1 Israeli was stabbed to death after a security guard prevented the terrorist from entering a local coffee house.

    12.8.2003 – A teenage suicide terrorist exploded at a grocery in Rosh Ha'ain; 1 Israeli was killed.

    12.8.2003 – A teenage suicide terrorist exploded on a bus stop near Ariel, less than one hour after the attack in Rosh Ha'ain; 2 Israelis were killed.

    19.8.2003 – A suicide attack on Eged bus 2 in Shmuel Hanavi neighborhood in Jerusalem; 23 people were killed and over 130 were wounded.

    * 29.8.2003 – A shooting attack towards a vehicle northeast to Ramallah; 1 Israeli was killed and his wife, 7 months pregnant, was moderately wounded.

    9.9.2003 – A suicide attack at a hitchhikers' station outside the main entrance of Tzriffin base and Assaf Harofe hospital; 8 IDF soldiers were killed and 32 were wounded.

    9.9.2003 – A suicide attack at Hillel coffee house in Jerusalem; 7 were killed and over 50 were wounded.

    * 26.9.2003 – A terrorist infiltration at the community of Negohot; 2 Israeli civilians were killed, including 1 infant, and two other civilians were wounded.

    * 4.10.2003 – A female suicide terrorist exploded in the Haifa Maxim restaurant; 21 were killed, including 4 children, and 60 were wounded.

    19.10.2003 – A shooting attack towards an IDF vehicle north to Ramallah; 3 IDF soldiers were killed and 1 was wounded.

    * 24.10.2003 – A terrorist infiltration at the community of Netzarim in the Gaza Strip; 3 IDF soldiers were killed and 2 were wounded.

    11.11.2003 – A shooting attack in the community of Morag in the southern Gaza Strip; 1 foreigner was wounded.

    13.11.2003 – A shooting attack towards two Israeli vehicles traveling on the trans-Judea road, near Idna; no casualties were sustained.

    2.12.2003 – A Molotov cocktail attack on an Israeli vehicle north to Ramallah.

    * 12.12.2003 – A shooting attack towards a vehicle near Yossef's tomb in Nablus; 7 Israeli civilians were wounded.

    Fire was opened towards an Israeli vehicle traveling on route 60 north to Ramallah near Turmus Iya.

    18.12.2003 – A shooting attack towards an Israeli vehicle traveling on the trans-Judea road; 1 Israeli civilian was wounded.

    23.12.2003 – A shooting attack towards an Israeli vehicle near the Israeli-Egyptian border; no casualties were sustained.
     
  3. Nursey

    Nursey Active Member

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    Good to see you still relying on such an 'unbias' source as the IDF's official site for your data! Let's have another look shall we?

    First of all, there were no Molotov cocktails, just rocks. Secondly, dozens of Israeli police were wounded? Why doesn't it mention the two hundered Palestinians injured as well as the four who were killed by the Israeli police? And thirdly, this just happened out the blue did it? Nothing to do with what happened the day before, which Israel's staunchest ally and partner in crime was not even able to wriggle out of condemning? You know...the visit by the then newly elected war criminal responsible for the butchering of thousands of innocent Palestinians, (many of whom were women and children) in the refugee camps of Sabra and Shatilla...Ariel Sharon.
    Here's B'T selem's, (an Israeli human rights group) report on the incident...
     
  4. Schmed

    Schmed New Member

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    Hey Barry how do *** and ***** feel about you believing in a magical being that created the cosmos,being pro war, and getting ass whooped by a comic book reader? or did you brainwash them too??? Or are you just the troll/hank beast that i think you might be.??
     
  5. ucicare

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    So I don't try and hide my identity, and you (and Dwaine Scum) take full advantage of that by personalizing a pathetic forum argument by smearing my children.

    I don't know who Hank is, but I'm not him. Take a look at the pictures you found, Schmed. Do those kids look abused? Based on the other photos, do they look like they have ever hurt for anything?

    I have had enough for you. I am genuinely sorry that I wasted my time with someone as devoid of character and morals as you.

    And that empty feeling you live with? Maybe that is just the hole in your heart where you ripped God out.


    Barry
     
  6. Schmed

    Schmed New Member

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    I love you too Barry!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
     
  7. Nursey

    Nursey Active Member

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    Barry...Thread...keep this shit out my Schmed, please. :?
     
  8. Fugly

    Fugly Administrator Staff Member Fugly Staff

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    Try to stay on topic, folks. This started off pretty good.
     

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