The reason no one cares in New Orleans...

Discussion in 'More Serious Topics' started by TheGrimJesus, Sep 2, 2005.

  1. TheGrimJesus

    TheGrimJesus New Member

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    Thats the bottem line its mostly poor, black people down there right now, Our goverment has a history of slow reaction to help blacks when something major goes down.

    Just like right now WHO GIVES A FUCK ABOUT LOOTING, Save the people Save the fucking people. But no LOOTING is our main Concern.

    Hey expletive deleted you ever thing maybe the first people looting you shot in the head would make the others fall in line.

    Its all its about no one cares about a poor black person.

    Edited 9/2/05 so I can move it to the Cold Sober forum. Everything I edited I marked in BLUE. I tried to maintain as much of your original post as possible.
     
  2. Reizvolles

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    The reason they are worried about the looting, numbnuts, is because people are breaking into gun shops and stealing munitions, then taking pot-shots at the poor bastards trying to RESCUE them. Now shut the fuck up if you have nothing intelligent to say, monkey-boy.
     
  3. Nursey

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    You're just faithfully repeating what you've been told by government controlled media. What's so intelligent about that, parrot-girl?
     
  4. Reizvolles

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    And what's you analogy then, you smartass? Let's hear your side of the story since you're the smartest one here.
     
  5. JEFE

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    I'm watching it happen on TV. I don't know if anyone has much control of anything down there, much less the media.

    I think Reizvolles lives in Australia, btw. Does the government control the media there?
     
  6. Reizvolles

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    No, just some rich fuckers called Rupert Murdoc and Kerry Packer.
     
  7. Reizvolles

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    Actually, down in AU, there is a cross-media law that stops any one person being about to own more than one type of media. So that way they can't own newspapers and TV stations, ect.
     
  8. ucicare

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    Nursey, it is fairly interesting to actually see this first hand, and to hear the "Government Controlled" version on the news. What is interesting is that the News is hammering the Federal Government, and is openly critical of the effort, or lack there of, to rescue everyone. If the government controls the info, why are they allowing such negative and derogatory info to be broadcast?

    I live on the Eastern Shore of Mobile Bay, and the main intersate (I-10) runs right by us. I was on that interstate Tuesday AM after the storm. All I saw for hours was firetrucks, rescue vehicles, Fema vehicles, disaster relief vehicles, road clearing equipment, etc, headed towards Mississsippi and Louisiana.

    The response is there. The problem is that the area of devastation is HUGE, and millions of people are affected.

    The "Federal Government" in the US assists the locAL state Governments. Each state is has it's own disaster relief plans, and the Feds are there to support those plans.

    If any breakdowns are occurring, it is because the State of Lousiana is a backwards ass place, and were poorly prepared. It is not fair to blame the Federal Government for the incompetence of local Government.

    This disaster is bigger than television can report.

    Barry
     
  9. JEFE

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    Well said.
     
  10. pimpchichi

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    and the fact that fema has been getting downgraded in preperation to becming just another division of homeland security which has only been caring about fearmongering over 'terror attacks' and hasn't done much drilling recently in preperation for the infinitely more likely event of a natural disaster or three.. yes i suppose that fact hasn't much to do with tha total fuckup thats going on right now...


    but anyway.. i hear condi picked up some hot new shoes... so it's not all doom and gloom..

    and it's lovely and sunny over here.. a tad too humid for my liking.. but can't complain eh?
     
  11. JEFE

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    ..but on the other hand:
    In 2001, FEMA warned that a hurricane striking New Orleans was one of the three most likely disasters in the U.S. But the Bush administration cut New Orleans flood control funding by 44 percent to pay for the Iraq war.
    http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/0,1518,372455,00.html

    Can I quote myself? Is that allowed?
     
  12. pimpchichi

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    yes and don't forget that the louisiana national guard is in iraq as well as that levee money jefe
     
  13. Reizvolles

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    Let's blame the muslims again.
     
  14. JEFE

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    Well that's exactly what this article says but you could also argue it's a matter of priorities.

    Before Katrina, the thinking was most likely, "yeah, we know a hurricane could annihilate New Orleans but we've also got a bunch of crazy terrorists who are flying planes into buildings over here so we have to use our resources for what's inportant NOW and not what might or might not happen."

    On the other hand, the complete destruction of a major U.S. city by something potentially more powerful than any terrorist group imaginable is something pretty important too and it's never a good idea to put all your eggs in one basket.

    It's a shitty situation no matter how you look at it and people are angry and are looking to place the blame somewhere.
     
  15. JEFE

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    That's the best idea I've heard all day.
     
  16. ucicare

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    Pres Bush just left Mobile,Al for a tour of the disaster area.

    I found it very interesting what he said - I heard it live by the way, not on our so called "controlled" media.

    Bush pointed out that all the focus of search and rescue was on Mississippi, since that is where the hurricane actually hit. The effort there is commendable, but of course gets no coveraqge because the New Orleans story is much more interesting.

    New Orleans survived the hurricane easily. The problem came after the hurricane when the levee breached. If the levee had not breached, New Orleans would not be a story.

    Mississippi got hammered. It was the right thing to do to send aid there first.

    Barry
     
  17. smurfslappa

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    No one cares because no one knows the truth and thinks this shit won't happen to them some day. Deploy troops to control people driven crazy by thirst or lack of their necessary medications. They didn't try to plug the levees initially, the helicopters never even showed. The levees even broke after the hurricane. The hurricane was obviously manipulated if you have an idea of what its true path was and had your eye on it since it was a tropical storm in the bahamas. But whatever with all that, the lack of response just goes to show I can't trust my government to come save my ass when shit hits the fans. Not that I did anyways, but I didn't think they'd shoot my looting ass if I had to stoop to it. And please, I really don't think the people are shooting at rescuers. You all know how I feel about that. We've had special forces and SEALS deployed to the area, but i haven't been seeing them rescue.
     
  18. Nursey

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    Analogy? You mean 'theory', i think. Well anyway, that's not really the point. The point is that you are telling someone to 'shut the fuck up' for being 'unintelligent' when they made some perfectly reasonable points which stemmed from their own thought processes. And you were just repeating what you'd heard on the news. And i find that particular story a little suspect because it's a bit too convenient really, considering the agenda currently being persued by the people referred to as 'fucking crazies' who are currently in power. Here's what i'm talking about.

    US Military Dictatorship Rearing It's Head

    Now ALL looters...and not just ones who 'attack rescuers'...risk being shot by 'battle hardened troops'. So there goes the thin end of the wedge, slipping effortlessly in while the nation is otherwise distracted. I think it's a pretty safe bet to say that when any other disasters natural or manmade occur from now, the default action will now be 'battle hardened troops' operating on a shoot-to-kill policy.


    Think i'll just add another 'well said' to this thread.

    Shucks! Thanks Reiz...I have my moments.8)
     
  19. smiles

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    Enter: Michael Moore

    Friday, September 2nd, 2005

    Dear Mr. Bush:

    Any idea where all our helicopters are? It's Day 5 of Hurricane Katrina and thousands remain stranded in New Orleans and need to be airlifted. Where on earth could you have misplaced all our military choppers? Do you need help finding them? I once lost my car in a Sears parking lot. Man, was that a drag.

    Also, any idea where all our national guard soldiers are? We could really use them right now for the type of thing they signed up to do like helping with national disasters. How come they weren't there to begin with?

    Last Thursday I was in south Florida and sat outside while the eye of Hurricane Katrina passed over my head. It was only a Category 1 then but it was pretty nasty. Eleven people died and, as of today, there were still homes without power. That night the weatherman said this storm was on its way to New Orleans. That was Thursday! Did anybody tell you? I know you didn't want to interrupt your vacation and I know how you don't like to get bad news. Plus, you had fundraisers to go to and mothers of dead soldiers to ignore and smear. You sure showed her!

    I especially like how, the day after the hurricane, instead of flying to Louisiana, you flew to San Diego to party with your business peeps. Don't let people criticize you for this -- after all, the hurricane was over and what the heck could you do, put your finger in the dike?

    And don't listen to those who, in the coming days, will reveal how you specifically reduced the Army Corps of Engineers' budget for New Orleans this summer for the third year in a row. You just tell them that even if you hadn't cut the money to fix those levees, there weren't going to be any Army engineers to fix them anyway because you had a much more important construction job for them -- BUILDING DEMOCRACY IN IRAQ!

    On Day 3, when you finally left your vacation home, I have to say I was moved by how you had your Air Force One pilot descend from the clouds as you flew over New Orleans so you could catch a quick look of the disaster. Hey, I know you couldn't stop and grab a bullhorn and stand on some rubble and act like a commander in chief. Been there done that.

    There will be those who will try to politicize this tragedy and try to use it against you. Just have your people keep pointing that out. Respond to nothing. Even those pesky scientists who predicted this would happen because the water in the Gulf of Mexico is getting hotter and hotter making a storm like this inevitable. Ignore them and all their global warming Chicken Littles. There is nothing unusual about a hurricane that was so wide it would be like having one F-4 tornado that stretched from New York to Cleveland.

    No, Mr. Bush, you just stay the course. It's not your fault that 30 percent of New Orleans lives in poverty or that tens of thousands had no transportation to get out of town. C'mon, they're black! I mean, it's not like this happened to Kennebunkport. Can you imagine leaving white people on their roofs for five days? Don't make me laugh! Race has nothing -- NOTHING -- to do with this!

    You hang in there, Mr. Bush. Just try to find a few of our Army helicopters and send them there. Pretend the people of New Orleans and the Gulf Coast are near Tikrit.

    Yours,

    Michael Moore
     
  20. Reizvolles

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    Is that a conspiracy theory then, Nursey? They are doing it to take away people's freedom?
     

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