The Padilla post traumatic stress claim your thoughts

Discussion in 'Medical Advice' started by Joeslogic, Feb 22, 2007.

  1. Joeslogic

    Joeslogic Active Member

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    On the validity of these claims in a court of law.

    Weather there ever was or will be used as a strategic tactic to short circuit the justice system.

    Did the court system open Pandora's Box years ago by considering mental issues as an excuse?

    How about "Ok judge I admit I raped the little girl but my psychologist says I have an exceptionally high rate of hornyness so it’s really not my fault I suffer from a mental condition."

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    "I did a psychological evaluation test and I was deemed as being prone to anger outburst. So when I bludgeoned to death that other motorist involved in the car accident I was only reacting to a combination of adrenalin accompanied with an already existing predisposition to being angry. So it’s really not my fault your honor"
     
  2. ucicare

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    Mental Health problems are not an excuse for anything, but may be considered as a mitigating circumstance in sentencing. In other words, if you are crazy as hell and kill someone, you may get life in prison instead of the electric chair.

    I rarely see mental health conditions stand up in court as an excuse for anything. People are still held responsible for their behaviors. Even the Schizophrenic that hears voices knows that it is illegal to kill. If he truly can't understand "Illegal" he may have an insanity plea. Few qualify.
     
  3. MAJ Havoc

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    Now if a court tries several of a Schizophrenic's personalities, can they circumvent the "double-jeopardy" hurdle?
     
  4. pimpchichi

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    his innocence or guilt has yet to be established by a court... innocent until guilty etc.. tho IF (a big if there) he is guilty... then the treatment he has recieved (that has driven him insane... and is documented in FOI released documents as proven treatment to crack minds) so far.. goes way over line of 'cruel and unusual punishment'... so IF he's guilty he's been punished above and beyond... and if he's innocent.. well...

    at least he is entitled to a chance of arguing his innocence though... hundreds or thousands more aren't being allowed that chance...

    america is truly an antichrist
     
  5. Joeslogic

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    I know you do not really believe that Pimp. I mean look the other perspective is that he does not belong on the federal judicial system anyways. A terrorist at a time of war committing treason in my opinion has no right to a fair trial. It is a military matter and he should be tried in a military tribunal. America is far far to fair and forgiving.
     
  6. ucicare

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    Funny.

    One of the common misconceptions is that schizophrenia means "multiple personality". In truth schizophrenia is a debilitating brain disorder that absoultely steals a persons ability to be rational. Look at a PET scan here of a Schizophrenic brain - http://www.brainplace.com/bp/atlas/viewlargeimage.php?img=SK1.jpg
     
  7. pimpchichi

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    so you're saying that an accusation of being a terrorist should remove anyones rights?
    you should be careful what you wish for you filthy terrorist
     
  8. Joeslogic

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    And when some idiots lack of common sense endangers our society during a time of war I say take that m/f out also he is just as bad.

    War is a bitch self preservation is what it is.

    I bet ten more years from now you will also be one of the ones saying "Everyone knew damn well Iran had no nukes! Bush was lying to the American people and the rest of the world as mass conspiracy!"

    See lack of common sense is like a cancer idiots are told its cool and the popular thing and like magic it is so. There I fucking go again another prediction like naustrafuckindahmas.

    Let me ask you this do you know how radiation or chemical therapy works for cancer patients?

    ;D
     
  9. pimpchichi

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    keep on pissing off those russians joey!!

    ps yes i will be, and yes i do know
     
  10. pimpchichi

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  11. Joeslogic

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    Lack of common sense is like a cancer idiots are told its cool and the popular thing and like magic it is so.

    Let me spell it out for you fucktard.

    You cannot tell me what it is that America has done to bully Iran. And the reason because it never happened stupid. You got this idiot trying to build nuclear weapons and giving public speeches about bring about the end of the world the coming of the 12 imam. Rattling his sward at America. So what happens? Some commie idealist who writes for Guardian runs and writes a paper about how America should stop bullying Iran.

    Thank you Chimp pee pee for pointing out exactly what I'm saying Lack of common sense is indeed a cancer.
     
  12. pimpchichi

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    irans president is merely a figurehead...

    and if iran wanted a nuclear deterrent, rather than domestic energy production as they say they do.. who can fuckin blame 'em.. they have their #1 antagonisers of the last 3 decades occupying 2 of the countries on their borders making threats to invade them...

    and i'm sorry to hear of the seriousness of your affliction joe
     
  13. Joeslogic

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    True so just spit out the truth forget the entire B.S. The whole argument is just stupid. I could actually understand the whole "We deserve the right to make weapons to protect ourselves" theory then the argument is squarely where it belongs. But Taking the aggressor stand point and threatening the world .... yes the world not just America. "Any one that gets in their way" "2000 cells placed strategically throughout the world" "Israel will be no more" .... blah blah blah. And then using the BS line about needing Nuclear power for energy production....WTF?"

    Oh and I accept your condolences.
     
  14. pimpchichi

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    well energy production isn't exactly bullshit is it.. it's pretty much accepted that oil reserves will run out in around 30 years at currently increasing levels of consumption... which is why most if not all the worlds countries are investing in alternative sources of power...

    erm.. and taking the aggressor stance??...threatening the world??. wow.. hypofuckincritical much?.. you know .. i read a few of your rants dotted around the forums about how this country or that country needs to be stopped.. and most of the time you could replace the name of the country with USA\WMIC and it'd be far closer to the truth...
     
  15. pimpchichi

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    anyway.. jose padilla... i bet you wouldn't be so sure of his guilt if he was called john smith
     
  16. ucicare

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    The same thing was said 30 years ago about deforesting in the Amazon. "at the current rate of increase" is not sustainable. The jump in increase will level off, alternate sources will be found, and life goes on.
     
  17. pimpchichi

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    oh yeah.. it's not a finite source made from millions of years of compressed biological matter, because the earth was only created ~7000 years ago... silly little apostatic bastard i am :-[
     
  18. phatboy

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    You drinking all ready?

    I cant wait for fossil fuels to run out.
     
  19. pimpchichi

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    you've already git yer guns?
     
  20. phatboy

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    Nah, they built an Ethanol - BioDiesel plant about 5 miles outside of town. So me and my 'mad max' mates can go and get fuel there. Of course I dont think my Hemi is E85 ready though....
     

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