Olympus Mons is the location of a massive lightning strike!

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  1. smurfslappa

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    Nuff said bitches!
     
  2. Joeslogic

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    Hold on Smurf I give you the benefit of the doubt saying "Yeah it could be lightening" I give the same benefit to the scientists who say as if fact what ever their theory flavor of the day is. "Yeah it could be (insert idea here that sounds plausible)" nothing for sure though. Nice pics that do look somewhat compelling though.

    I'm beginning to believe in the solar heating theory though just by experience the sun seems to be awful bright lately. I'm fairly tanned by this time in the year but let me lay out in the hot part of the day on the pool just to relax and cool off for 45 min. It seems like I just got three hours worth of sun rather than 45 min. This could however be my imagination nothing scientific.
     
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    Hold on Smurf I give you the benefit of the doubt saying "Yeah it could be lightening" I give the same benefit to the scientists who say as if fact what ever their theory flavor of the day is. "Yeah it could be (insert idea here that sounds plausible)" nothing for sure though. Nice pics that do look somewhat compelling though.

    I'm beginning to believe in the solar heating theory though just by experience the sun seems to be awful bright lately. I'm fairly tanned by this time in the year but let me lay out in the hot part of the day on the pool just to relax and cool off for 45 min. It seems like I just got three hours worth of sun rather than 45 min. This could however be my imagination nothing scientific.
     
  4. Lomotil

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    I must be getting too much sun, too...

    I could've sworn I just read the same post twice...

    :shock: :shock:
     
  5. diogenes

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    Nah, you just get 3 times as much sun since you're fat.
     
  6. phatboy

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    ZIn........nah.

    What the fuck would a lightning strike on Mons Olympus have anything to do with the end of the Earth? Thats like saying the Big Red Spot storm on Jupiter is out to get us too.

    And that looks nothing like lightning. It looks more like wind. Or maybe the epicenter of some tectonic plate movement. Maybe mons olympus will have some major volcanic action going on. That would be pretty cool. i dont think it would affect us on earth though.
     
  7. phatboy

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    Mariner 9, the first spacecraft to orbit another planet, reached Mars in 1971. It witnessed a large dust storm raging, and only the ice caps were initially observable. When the dust cleared, images of Mars's northern hemisphere revealed numerous large volcanoes. The largest, Mons Olympus, covers an area the size of Ohio and is no less than 23KM(75K ft) in elevation, over two and a half times higher than Mount Everest. This gigantic volcano and others resemble the shield volcanoes found on Earth, like those of Hawaii. (Foundations of Earth Science 4th Edition Copyright 2002)

    It has the same picture you have there. With the same stretch marks. How fresh were these strikes supposed to be?
     
  8. Joeslogic

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    Yeah lomo I went away and cane back hit refresh have no idea why I decided to do that.

    Damn Dio I'm actually in pretty good shape I believe.

    I say it could be anything there is a bit of deception with the clay anode and the arc and that being that the thinness of the anode and the fact that there was a piece of heavily conductive steel underneath means that unless made is a steel ball with a thin layer of clay over the top. Then you need to take the experiment with a grain of salt. Might mean something and might not.
     
  9. smurfslappa

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    Earth is one big conductive ball itself, with our magnetic poles and powerful lightning storms. As soon as they PROVE that tornadoes and hurricanes are massive energy vortices then they'll know that the Martian dust devils are the same thing.

    Wind, like this electric wind created in a lab? Before:


    And After:


    Compared to the Tyrrhena region of Mars:



    Obviously the current was much stronger so the ground got hotter on Mars, but it's the exact same thing.

    Well Phat, the same things that happened to Mars could happen to Earth as well, although probably scaled down quite a bit. It's not like saying the Big Red spot is out to get us, it's like saying the same thing (scaled down a bit) that causes the big red spot and caused Mars to get fucked up might be out to get is. It's just not a good idea to have so many people depending on an agriculture that's depending on the stable energy fields and climates of Earth. Plus Mars is the most comparable planet to Earth in our solar system. It was most likely another planet with life just like Earth before the big catastrophe.

    The face of Mars and all the pyramids around it should have shown that to everyone...


    Here's just another picture of the glass dunes they've found an Mars, areas where the electric currents travelling over the surface were finding the shortest routes, to or from their source, as possible.



    Come on, you can't tell me you don't see what's going on in that picture?

    It's about the implications of it all, Phatboy. The THEORY of gravity and black holes and dark matter were all thought up in a time before we had powerful telescopes that could see all the things we are able to these days. That there are tornadoes flying across the surface of the Sun, parallel to the surface tells us all sorts of things about how it works, and the connection between them and our Earthly tornadoes. Electromagnetics is the reason why the galaxies don't fly apart, not black holes.

    That's because there's something going on with it, which is why the hurricane seasons are getting more powerful and global warming can almost light my joint for me.
     
  10. phatboy

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    The earths core is Iron Ore and Nickel, mostly Iron ore. That makes it one big freakin magnet.

    That picture looks like earthworms. I guess I dont see the electricity.

    Before telescope people thought the sun revolved around the earth, like the moon only a few meters high.

    Global warming is the earth doing its usual thing. The sun will be brighter the closer we are to it. On certain cycles we are closer than on others. Thats the reason why it may seem hotter than 3 years ago, but if you look at record highs they were usually about 30 to 50 years ago, depending on the time of month. Its all circular. Mars has always been too cold to have 'water' the way we do. If there was water it would have been frozen, like the polar ice caps. If at one time it had an atmosphere to trap some of the suns heat energy, then maybe the temp would warm up some.

    If Mons Olympus erupted I would imaging it would put a pretty thick cloud cover over the whole planet, but still wouldnt trap enough heat to warm the planet.

    They have found more 'signs of life' on asteroids than they have any chance of finding on Mars. Signs of life being aminos found on meteorites that have survived long enough to get to the earths surface.

    I find the planets fascinating.

    If someone offered me a spaceship and said, "we are going to give you enough supplies to last 200 years and enough porn to keep your hands busy" I would be on the ship. Just to go as far as I could before I died. But that would be contradictory to the fact that the earth is just a nuetron circling a nucleus(the sun) in a simple molecule to some other species.
     
  11. diogenes

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    Hmmm. Joe isn't fat, but Lomo is...


    A-ha, I have it. I must have been talking to Lomo.
     
  12. smurfslappa

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    That doesn't make it one big freakin magnet. Where the hell did you learn how to make a magnet? Zapping some metal really really hard makes it a magnet. When the solar "wind" (or current like it really is) gets to blowing we get really pretty auroras... at our poles. South to North, electric currents, spinning magnetic fields...



    They go hand in hand.

    In mid-1997, the Soho satellite detected a plasma structure issuing from Venus and almost reaching the surface of Earth. The report described the structure as "stringy." Plasma filaments would fit that description perfectly, especially when you review all the facts about Venus.

    It orbits the opposite direction around the Sun, and it rotates very very slowly. Ancient names for Venus include (translated): the bearded planet, the smoky planet, the hairy planet, and its Latin name means morning star. This doesn't sound like the Venus we know nowadays. It also got itself a brand-spanking new surface in the not-too-distant past, and some of the data surrounding it suggests that it's actually cooling off.

    Lightning has the ability to make glass out of sandy soil. Electricity always tries to find the shortest route possible which would be a straight line. In the case of that picture you can see where the main current was traveling at the bottom, veering to the upper left. The two other glass-dune-lines are branching out from the main line at 90 degree angles.

    A lot of the elite knew better, the church was what was keeping everyone stupid. But you just proved my point. Before we advanced ourselves we thought the Earth was flat. We got to poking around our solar system and trying out new technologies and we got the theory of relativity and gravity. Then we invented even better telescopes and measuring equipment and starting finding magnetic fields everywhere and whole galaxies and star systems defying the "laws" of gravity... as we know them to exist

    The entire Universe has all sorts of varying energy fields and currents that support the amazing phenomena that we see. Our solar system is particularly well-suited for supporting life such as ours, but if you got in that starship and started booking it somewhere else, I'm sure you'd find yourself falling apart as the varying field-strengths pull the electrons off your atoms.

    That's because they don't know what the hell they're supposed to be looking for. They're looking for molecules and bacteria and water, not superstructures and pyramids and cities. I'm sure any flesh or branch-chain amino acids got burnt with most of the planet, anyways.
     
  13. smurfslappa

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    Heeey, look at the Moon, and look at this lightning strike on a golf course.





    This particular crater, named Tycho, has "rays" extending out from it that run at least a quarter of the way around the moon. Some of the rays don't even appear to be extending themselves from the center of the crater (i.e. the one near the bottom left of the crater rim), which is what you would think all the rays would do if they were caused by an impact.

    The central peak, said to have been formed by a “rebound” of subterranean material, rises about 2 kilometers above the crater floor. Planetary scientists suggest that the flat floor of the crater (seen below) was formed by the pooling of melted material. But the idea that an impact would create such an extensive pool of molten rock finds no support in impact experiments or in high-energy explosions. Not even an atomic explosion creates a flat melted floor of this sort. The force of the explosion shocks and ejects material. It does not hold the material in place to “melt” it into a lake of lava.


    The crater floor of Tycho:



    Electric craters in the lab (some of the bigger ones have a tiny bump in the middle):

     
  14. phatboy

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    You know I am drunk now, and you are still a retard. If you take two non-magnetic screwdrivers and bounce them against each other they will become magnetically charged. Therefore the earth, that is one big fucking metal ball is magnetically charged. It just happens. It isnt the aliens fault or nothing like that.

    The compass points north for a reason.

    So, your lines dont make much of a point. Those images have been available for years.

    Even if you had big tits you couldnt convince me....LOL.
     
  15. smurfslappa

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    Yeah, that's a pretty awesome effect. You're looking at something that requires you to smash two metal objects together, that were previously separated by the insulator (the fucking air in there). For their mass, you're applying an assload of force to the metal. Then you rip the two apart and a miniature battle takes place between the hammer and nail's atoms that decides which one's impact site will be south and which will be north. This is NOTHING like what goes on in the Earth's core. The metal inside our planet isn't separated from anything, it's one big glob.

    I mean, goddam. We still get fucking auroras at our poles when a massive blast from the Sun comes, electromagnetic lights. And Mars still looks all sorts of burnt to hell.

    I mean goddam, every ancient culture from around the world without exception talks about how some crazy shit went down and there was so much lightning flying around it looked like the skies were filled with arrows. Don't believe if that's what suits you, but I think I'm throwing down my fair share of evidence while you don't got shiiiiiit.

    I wonder what Nursey thinks about this stuff? The other half of the big story she's chasing.
     
  16. phatboy

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    I agree that it is pretty fascinating to speculate over what caused the lines. I see that lightening hit a metal flag pole and scorched the ground, which looks nothing like the pictures of mons olympus you presented. The planets, and moons, have been battered by asteroids and meteorites for millions and millions of years. The spots you are referencing on the moon are from such a meteor shower. When it hit it caused ripples in the surface, similar to an earthquake, depending on the range of S and P waves it could cause all kinds of crazy ripples.

    Is this you self help image for masturbation?

     
  17. Joeslogic

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    If that were the case my dick would have been picking up metal shavings since I was 15.
     
  18. smurfslappa

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    No, actually that's the right hand thumb test. Your right thumb points the direction of the current, and your fingers curl in the direction the magnetic field rotates.

    And the "scorched" ground your talking about actually has a name. It's called a Lichtenberg figure, and it's thought to occur all the way down to the molecular level. What you see is where the electrons where getting pulled into the branches or where the charge carried by electrons was getting pulled into the ground. Either way, it's a known electric effect.

    Here are some images of what this effect has on an entire planet: Venus.





    On the moon there's way less resistence due to the lack of atmosphere, so the electron streams were able to travel in straighter lines, creating the "rays." If they were created by an impact, why do some of the rays extend out from an off-center area of the crater, like sideways out from the rim? Look just left of the arrow that points to Tycho, do you see how it heads straight for the rim right there, even a point on the outer rim. The electron stream can do that, no impact tests in a lab ever will.

     
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    Did that lightning come from Mars?
     

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