Smiles the post mad a basic and true observation regarding the parallels of Islam being insulted and Christians being insulted. You spend your time at every opportunity being the ultimate apologist for the Muslims. Whenever there is a post its the same old shit. We the imperialist west have insulted, oppressed, raped, murdered, forced our ways upon them. Whatever atrocities your mind can conjure up always justifying all that they do. As a matter of fact I may be wrong but I cannot remember one time you have agreed that there is any wrong what so ever with there actions. I simply pointed out that their observance of a Muslim belief that drawing a picture of Muhammad is a sin is something that purely should affect them only. If they should desire to act upon that belief by not drawing pictures of Muhammad. It has nothing to do with me. You apparently saw the opportunity to preach about your views that we do not kiss enough Muslim ass. An opportunity you refuse to pass up hell you cannot manager to pass up. Compelled you are with your obsession as a Muslim apologist. You sit back and piously preach how America has no right to force upon the rest of the world our system of beliefs. Yet at the same time to justify Muslims way of forcing there ways upon others. You say you not Muslim I have no idea why. In fundamentalist Muslim countries do you think they allow Christians? Think again just being suspect of being Christian can cause you to be forced to profess Islam in public or face punishment. Potentially fatal punishment. Thousands had died rather then convert to Islam. Now in non-Muslim countries according to Smiley we are to modify our habits to accommodate some shitbags that desire to force there beliefs on us. While all the while at the same time insulting other non-Muslim religions with reckless abandon. Sure smiley you got the backing of any shallow minded simpleton that puts his finger in the air to see what direction the popular subculture is following. But I don't subscribe to that methodology. Dwain’s observation was right on and loaded with common sense. Nothing to apologize for here. Fuck those bastards looking for an excuse to bitch they have no right.
Muslims have a right to be offended, just like people have a right to be offended by the mayhem forums in general. However, that doesn't negate the right of others to speak their mind. Just like we do in fuglyforums. Do you see. If the whole world was like fuglyforums everyone would be so much better off. Except Grim, who would still wake up every morning and be Grim.
Look both Christians and Muslims go way to fucking far. Radical Muslims think that there religon is the end all be all. Radical Christians think the same thing. Most recently the cartoon is getting play, There are other issues with deaths threats agaist authors or what not. Its there right I guess. Christians are far different. They want to force themself upon anyone that does not belive what they belive. Most recently with there Attacks on NBC over there TV shows. But think about the Crusades and all the people that have been killed in the name of the Christian religion and there lord Jesus Christ. So they have a lot more in commen them they want to admit. The simple fact is religion is for nit wits and jerk offs. Anyone who wants to belive the bullshit in the bible can go right fuck on. Just don't come banging on my door trying to tell me about it, I don't give a shit. I'm tired of religons in general. You have so many motherfuckers preaching to the rooftops that they are right. Come on now not everyone can be right. So I would rather roll the dice on logic. Then myth.
Me too. But I have never been tired of Jesus. Jesus hated religion too. The Pharisee's killed him for it, as a matter of point. He blasted the hypocrites and the religious frauds. Jesis has never been about religion. Maybe you need to separate the two. Barry
its hard too Barry, You know when you do read the bible the A number 1 rule is do not take false idol before me. Now Jesus is suppose to be the son of god. But people praise Jesus pray to Jesus so on and so fourth. Then they say its ok because of the Holly Trinity. Well yes Jesus was real, But Jesus was just a man and a prophet. He was raised to the level of Deitie by a pagan Roman Emperor Constantine. So yeah I doubt most of the shit.
You know Barry, you could say the exact same thing about Sidhartha. But no one does here in the states. Religion is the opiate of the masses, Marx was right, but faith is another matter entirely. Church is not Christianity, any more than an Ayatollah is Islam. I think the Buddhists have it right in that they leave you be, and you come to them when you are ready.
It's really Hippocracy (christianity/catholosism) to me, During the day, its "right to life, abortion is murder," but later that night they are at the local prison rootin' on an execution. What happend to every life is precious? Now catholist are hardcore 12 commandmants, with confession. Wasen't one commandment "Thou shall not worship any graven images?" Can you name one Catholic without a crucifix? (or mexican Catholic without a shitload of Guadalupe candals and shrines all over the fucking house?) Or one step further, why do you have to pray to Jesus' mother, instead of JC? Oh well, like everything, over indulgence is dangerious. Alcohol, crack, herion, and religion. Religion has killed more people than herion, crack, tobacco, and alcohol combined...
I believe that the original books of Moses were divinely inspired and the rest of the books for that matter in the Bible. Religion is man made a distraction. Consider that what we do not even consider a religion. Simple laws of humanity for instance is a religion in and of itself. Communism, Capitalism, Buddhism, Catholicism there really the same. One promises eternal life, or resurrected life. One believes it can create peace and tranquility on earth our own utopia if you will. Everything in moderation is a true ideal. If a government took all struggle away in society. Gave us all the essentials of life. Advocating that everyone be equal in the name of this perceived utopia. The world would simply be all the more evil with the knowledge that compassion is cheap free as a handout from the government so why should people have or show any. I say to hell with religion in the literal sense don't cling to it lest it take you with it. You are the keeper to matters of your own heart and the real sense of what is wrong and what is right. The clearest guidance you ever had was the god given ability when you had on your side the innocence of childhood. As people grow and become more ignorant than they were they sink further and further from the truth. Pick the wrong religion and hasten that journey into the abyss of ignorance.
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Joe: sure you do have freedom of speech but why would you use that freedom to STOMP ON AN ALREADY FRAGILE SITUATION??? please just answer me that question.... are you TRYING to perpetuate more violence and intolerance? if so have the balls to enlist, honestly every single one of you that wants to blow them sky high are going be first inline to enlist RIGHT? you're all big man... talk a big game... kill this blow up that.... spend 30 days on a front line then talk to me i don't even know why i try having a civilized discussion with people who have absolutely no idea what they're saying nor do they understand the repercussions of what undertaking their own suggestions would entail
Come on Smiles, you actually expect people to back up what they're saying with action. Doesn't work that way, and you know it.
And it is done. Good times. I think I'm going to tattoo that on my ass so I can moon the mosque in orange as I drive by.
Yeah but the thing is, it's one thing posting stuff of an offensive nature here, but quite another posting it in the mainstream media. The sort of stuff which has been posted at Fugly about other races/religions would also cause huge uproar if they were printed in our daily newspapers. It's roughly equivalent to posting stuff like this: Yeah, freedom of speech etc, but let's face it, it just wouldn't happen, for good reason. And particularly about a group already feeling persecuted, unless it was intentional provocation. And sometimes it's not beating someone, starving them or pissing in their face which will cause them to snap - it's when you then turn round and insult their mother...
Fuck them, they feel persecuted. What right do they have to bitch. It's not like they're out there promoting freedom and religious diversity. The people who they have to blame the most for their oppresion is their own governments.
Injury is one thing. But going on to taunt and ridicule with blatant insult is asking for trouble. So fuck them. (The defiant media/politicians and their embassies etc, that is).
That's cool, if they want to respond with force they shouldn't bitch if we respond in kind. And I agree with you, fuck the media and politicians. Fuck'em all, they're a bunch of self serving fucks, just like those assholes stoking the fires over the cartoons.
So you're saying to fuck yourself? You consider those in power to be representative of the people? Those in power aren't 'us'. They are 'them'. We have more in common with the people we are being pitted against using the most sophisticated social engineering, propaganda and psyops imaginable, than we do with the top echelons of our societies' structure. We marvel at the staggering power of the West and it's mind blowing technology, yet think that an area of as much significance as that is going to be trundling along behind all the most formidable, cutting edge war technology like some clapped out, rusty old banger? These people are completely astounding in what they are capable of and actually doing, afterall, enough time, trillions of dollars and vast oceans of amassed thought power using the creme de la creme of leading professionals in every field, (including that which was obtained from the countries that were conquered) has been invested into it. Unfortunately, none of it is for the benefit of us lowly, worthless masses...no matter where we come from. And those who believe it is are being extremely gullible.