I don't think women - or anyone for that matter - should be unyielding at all times. But they should at least be firm enough to stand upright without the need to attach themselves to the nearest functioning backbone as they make their way through life. What i mean by that is, they shouldn't need to connivingly massage other people's egos to get what they want. They should just stand upright and be straight up and honest. Which is all very well for me to say, but to those who have been conditioned to believe that the only way to be heard or get what they want is to fulfill certain roles that are expected of them, this is the turnaround of a lifetime. To understand what makes many women stoop to such levels, we need to look at how our society views things. Sexual stereotyping starts before a child is even able to walk or talk. Or before the child even looks male or female. Males are expected to be more physical, outgoing and confident. Females to look pretty and demure, and not be too 'outspoken' or active. I think it probably has its roots in the Victorian age. I'm sure you've all seen parents who encourage boys to be rowdy, loud and active ("well, boys will be boys!") or females to sit coyly, quietly and look pretty. I'm not saying there is no tendency for such characteristics to occur in nature (with time) as a result of genuine differences between the genders, but they shouldn't be foisted artificially onto children - who for the first few years don't even exhibit masculine or feminine traits, as this is extremely damaging. People should be taken for who they are, and up til the age of about three, we are all just pure, innocent spirits in a body that is designed first and foremost for survival (and once that base is solid, the slow progress towards sexualisation). Our spirit is neither male nor female, so up til this point both sexes should be treated identically. This will give a more balanced/rounded, healthy base to our development, preventing what might be considered masculine (in females) or feminine (in males) traits to be neglected in either gender. Imbalance occurs when females are supressed and males overly encouraged. I'm not saying that after the age of three, we can start stereotyping, just that the characteristics of gender will occur naturally, and when it does, it's a lot more subtle and complex than the crude, manmade version. You don't want a society full of feeble women who feel the need to scheme and connive to get their way, or a society of men who have been conditioned out of expressing any sensitivity or restraint, ever.
Nursey, do you think the type of household a child is raised in makes a difference? IE: Single parent, two parents, step parents, gay parents, raised by granparent(s), aunts, uncles, siblings, etc.? Strong women get a lot of shit for being strong (but it won't bother the truly strong). Other women perceive them as jealous, men may perceive them as 'frigid' or just an all-around cunt. Mary Tyler Moore types may exist, but you hardly see them. Society still wants women to be playthings and if you turn on MTV or even a commerical for that matter, that's what you are going to see... a bunch of brainless whores. And the sad part is that some of them aren't really brainless. They are just trying to fill the mold. I was going somewhere else with that but the phone rang and I got distracted. Damnit! I've never been able to stand women who cannot go five minutes without a boyfriend - or- the ones who will take constant abuse from a guy because they 'love' him. I can understand that shit when you are in your late teens, but there are women my age who still act that way and each time they sniffle about how terrible their mate is, it makes me happy because I hope they are miserable. They deserve every minute of it. One of my friends always had a philosophy, "I can do bad on my own" and I have always respected her for that.
I think the most important thing is the level of honesty the parent or guardian has. And the extent of their own conditioning. This is why Barry constantly accuses me of being a man/having a penis. I think it helps him deal with the fact that i constantly match or outdo him. He isn't used to that, having probably been surrounded for the most part by weak, subservient females like limpy. I obviously make him feel like a big, fat, feminine sissy.
One word you mean...and one that doesn't even make any sense. Either that or he produces one of his well worn, tired out old cliches to derail a subject he finds overwhelming. He likes to come across as big, strong, courageous and manly, but really, he's a bit of a eunuch whose masculinity pales when confronted by genuinely strong, confidant women.
What I wan't to know is; Pastels? Blue & Pink? Bloody hell there are much better colours. Nothing like a bit of Black and Orange to make your child stand out like a gurgling, overfed Honey Bee Well not that bad, but still..
Talk about someone not putting in thought into their reply! Disorder, what the fuck are you talking about?
The point was about the forcing of those colours on girls & boys, respectively, to fit them in the 'mold'. Its on topic, sort of.
After I posted that, I figured it out. That's kind of like little girls and short hair and boys with long hair. Don't force your style on your kid. Little boys should have short hair so people won't call them little girls and vice versa. When they get old enough, let them do whatever they want!
I think you are a man (or at least were born with a penis) because I have never seen a picture of you without a choker. Hiding an Adams apple is easy to suspect. We do match wits occasionally, but I consistently play down to the competion. If we were to truly match minds in a mental slugfest, the skirmish would be brief, and you would be left a crumpled heap of sniveling humanity. I don't hit women, either verbally or physically. I have considered making an exception for you, since you seem to enjoy it. (or so pimp tells me.) To label Imp as subsubvient is the most laughable part of all. I do not know any woman that I have more admiration for. She runs her own business, is self sufficient, and could handle herself in a gunfight should she be forced into action. She is tough as nails, and takes zero crap off a man. As far as the sissy part - stop projecting.
Who are you trying to convince here, 'Big Bear'? The Holy Spirit? Yourself? There are people who i know or have known who are most definately a good match for me. You are most definately not one of them.
Yeah, and that thing about girls always getting dolls and boys getting guns and cars and stuff like that. Perhaps a girl would love to play with cars? Maybe they would learn to drive better if they were subjected to it early on JK there.. but I dunno.. the whole conditioning through toys could have an impact on all sorts of behaviours.
So sanctimonious you women crack me up. So easy to hide behind the "tough, affirmative, strong" woman routine. It's like an excuse and a shield for bad behavior. So a girl is pleasant and charming tickles the guys fancy getting what she wants and all of a sudden she is a slut or a bimbo. The shit cracks me up. It is not all that complicated look turn the tables if a guy goes around being an ass you do not see society running to his defense of something does not go his way with shit like. "They just do not like the fact that he is a strong male figure." No! They say hey "That guys an ass" then a campaign is mounted and within short order he is out of there generally speaking. The idea that women are not treated fairly if they are "strong" is a load of crap. Actually they are given a pass. Everyone knows better that to be the one who is "only afraid of strong women" Now being charming, cordial, nice or what have you for girls as well as guys can get your foot in the door in several respects throughout life. Being pleasant natured or fun to be around however does not get you a free ride however. So tell me Nursey and Nauseus. Are you working for yourself? Do you manage your own business?
No? Hats off to Limpy for having her own business. I mean it. But that doesn't stop her being a feeble, manipulative slut on here. And her sweetness and light facade doesn't fool me. She is a disingenuous little bitch from what i can see.
