I'm just sick of the greedy rich and the greedy poor who want more than what they deserve. If it weren't for that mentality, we wouldn't be in such a mess. I hope that there is hell and a special place for the self-entitled assholes.
bla bla bla this boring when you have had a margarits. I skimmed thu it... did you say you had testi cancer in the past Joe? are you neutered? not being funny-or insulting .. I swear I think I saw that. anyway.. I would love ANY insurance... for me and Evan... no one will insure us... we are fucked. and I dont think any has given me an answer or advice yet... I might be wrong, I did not read it all..
Well Big Mamma I wish you the best. Your ex with the big new MTV envy crib does he have to pay for any insurance? Also what are your Mediocre or Medicaids options? Speaking of Medicaids I thing gay people should be uninsured way before you should. I hope you get it worked out after the fun. Have a good one.
he pays for the arab baby's insurance- and that is cheap- like 160 a month or something... was paying mine until it ran out... even though he did have to. Said he would pay it with another company- but guess what, no company will have my ass I make too much money for medicaid... and have too much in the bank, ..but not enough in the bank to pay for an open heart surgery, heart caths, and shit like that... so that is why I emptying everything into that house.... they dont go by if your house is paid for ... or what kind of light fixtures you have . etc.. so I am doing that slowly putting money in a safe . sounds sneaky and wrong. I had a friend say "lets get married- and you will be on my insurance" but there are risks and holes in that. I have even done what Clark Howard suggested... apply at shity places that pay shit... to work part time, and get insurance, and still keep my real job... but guess what, my application get put on top of like 200 others...
and if I do get lucky enough and accepted for medicaid ... that would only be for Evan, not me. and I am fine with that... I can pay for my regular doc visits, and self treat little shit, .// the cushings will just go crazy, then I will end up one of those chicks on greeting cards at Spencers
Time for me to add my three cents (like anyone gives a shit). Socialized medicine is not ALL bad. The problem is our mentality. By "our" I mean Americans. If you look at Germany... everyone from the richest man down to the poorest man has a firm belive in one ideal. "Everyone deserves free health care". They all believe it and live it. They don't bitch about paying for it while not using it. They don't cry because they pay more than their neighbor. We as Americans cannot thnk that way. Germany also has private insurance. So if you are hospitalized and have provate insurance as well.... you might get steak for dinner instead of hospital meat and have a large flatscreen in your room. Maybe even hot topless nurses to massage you. But if you are run of the mill public insured.. you still get the same healthcare everyone gets.
Check the Cancer survival rates in Germany, UK, Canada, and the US. Check the Heart disease survival rates. Heart attack, strokes, just look at them all. The one thing that doesnt change is that you are more likely to survive in the US than you are in any of the 'socialized' health care countries.
That one on the right isn't half as big as the other ones. You can see her bikini bottom and everything. She shouldn't be on there.
link please. I also want to see the links comparing smarts and fatness. I have just always heard that Americans are the fattest, laziest and dumbest. Not saying I agree, just want to know.
Joe posted it a while back, dang did I just admit I click on the links joe posts!!!??? Yes, we are fat and live forever.
Well you sound like you have a good plan go for it. Also consider catastrophe insurance. Open heart surgery, heart caths should be considered a catastrophic event. Check out some the advice given by Dave Ramsey in this respect. Some people have it hard but persevere to do the right thing. Me I try not to live beyond my means and stay as debt free as possible I'm not as radical about it as some are I could do better. Check out these people and what they have to say I think you may feel better knowing your not the only one there are many others in the same boat as you. http://www.moneyrulesdebtstinks.com/?p=241
That makes sense. If you pay into insurance, you should expect them to cover some of your charges, right? It's about as fair as getting a discount at a Sam's Club! How is this unfair?!? If a client brings a bunch of people to a clinic in search of a 'group rate' discount, BOTH parties benefit! If my logic is unsound, please explain... You are not paying for a service. You are paying for insurance. Insurance is strictly a money pool that everyone pays into, hoping to never have to benefit from. Insurance, by it's very definition, is for the 'Just In Case' scenarios. Sure, they're going to happen to everyone, and sure they'll happen to some more than others, but the idea that you can subscribe to a particular plan that will seep a payment from you each paycheck, have a deductible, and rest comfortably that you'll be insured is what allows this model to serve those whom opt-in to it in the first place. Do they charge more for someone that they know will need more? Of course! How the fuck could they continue to provide coverage to everyone if they didn't? Some jackass could come in at the 11th hour and pay a week's worth of premiums, yet deplete the theoretical 'stockpile' of 100 people's virtual 'medical money' to pay for a stupid skiing accident. This is why I believe that 'high risk' situations (such as skiing, race car driving, scuba-diving, etc., should have an exemption.) One person, taking far more risks of everyone else paying into the same plan, should not pay the same premium. You sternly criticize the entire process - YES! Every claim IS a LOSS! It's a loss against the amount of collectively pooled money that is available to pay for everyone's claims! That's how the whole thing works! Now, people want to hand over this kind of fiscal responsibility to the one entity with the worst track record ever - the gubment?!? Give me a fucking break.
If it weren't for the mentality of the 'greedy rich' and the 'greedy poor' - we would not be here. Let's face it, you and I are both the product of an extremely effective system of natural selection. Recently, there have been movements to usurp the power given to such a system, and as a result, we are now presented with this Socialist health care system reaching fruition here in the USS of A. Do you wish to remain a sheep and follow the flock into a pen with only one gate, or do you empower your own rationalization abilities and see through the propaganda? I didn't want to draw any political parallels, but I can't help but mention that the same friends of mine that cried about Bush taking away our personal freedoms and limiting our power as individuals are largely the same lot that are ready to sign up with the Socialism version of health care. What the fuck does it take to get it through people's minds?!? PROFIT MOTIVE IS THE DRIVING FORCE BEHIND PROGRESS!!! [size=+2]Tell doctors and scientists that there is no extra cash behind finding a cure for a disease, and you probably deserve the news that one of your loved ones died because of an illness that could have been prevented, had there been an incentive to find a cure. [/size]
Very well said Lomo not sure they heard any of it though with their fingers in their ears loudly repeating some Obama hope don't listen to the mean people chant.
Im not really sure where I stand on this issue. I have seen firsthand how difficult it is when you dont have insurance and it can be really depressing and make you have countless sleepless nights, but at the same time, I dont want to have to rely on complete government control of healthcare, but at the same time we are suppossed to be one of the greatest countries ever, yet we cannot find some type of solution we can all agree on to make sure that US citizens can get treatment from a hospital when they need it. There's just something not right about that. If other countries can get it done somewhat right, why cant we do it, but better than they do? I don't know, Im pretty healthy right now at the young age of 23, but I wouldnt want to have to worry about this later on if I happened to get laid off or something and not have insurance. Im a little undecided on whether healthcare is something we are entitled to such as the air we breathe, but then again, you dont have to pay to breathe. Its a confusing and difficult task this one is, to compromise on what we should do, but man do I fell bad for people that have no hope right now. I dont think people blindingly want this legislation to pass like sheep, I just think they are desperate and just want to know that some type of universal healthcare will come out of this. If I remember my history correctly though, I remember what happened when a certain people in Germany were so desperate to get out of the post WWI slump in their country, that they blindly followed their leader. So yeah, some people in the bleakest of times will often ignore some stuff for the promise of a better tomorrow. Its kind of embarassing IMO to be living in the US, but not have something other countries provide to their citizens, something isnt right when we can say we live IMO in the greatest country on earth, yet cant provide everyone with affordable healthcare.
