Did any of you Non-US citizens hear about the Israeli Spies in the US? Do you ever wonder why the citizens of the US are really not concerned about it? Is it because we are brainwashed robots of our mind controlling Government? NO! Nobody in the US cares if Israel spies for the same reason an honest husband really doesn't care if his wife snoops through his billfold. The husband might be annoyed, but it no big deal. After all, they are married, and he has nothing to hide. Israel is not a pawn of the US any more than the US is a pawn of Israel. The US and Israel are twin sons born of different mothers by the same Father. Shalom Ya'll, Barry
A few good resources on the subject... ISRAELI SPYING Archives Israeli Actions in the Americas Israel US Spying
In reference to Nursey's link above - Invading Iraq to protect Israel is the best reason I can think of to go to war. I am not Jewish, but I love Israel. It is the only country on earth other than America that I would be willing to fight for or die defending. I will live there one day. Bet on it. Barry
Yes!!!! I can see it now!! The Holy Land, which i see blackened with the burnt fat that results from millions of bodies that run around aflame like little dancing candles in the nuclear wind...and in the clouds above...a large football stadium type structure full of jeering crowds of predominantly white, Anglo-Saxon origin, all dressed in long, white polyester gowns and baseball caps... surrounding an almighty throne on which is seated an impossibley dazzling white light which periodically explodes into a billion different colours whenever expressing Its ~Divine Approval~...just above where Barry, his face ecstatic with a golden, post-rapturous glow, munching 'popcorn-holio' and guzzling Diet Manna from Heaven™.. can be seen leaping to his feet and belting out psalms whenever The Lamb brings another nation of unbelievers onto the pitch to be festooned with baseball sized boils and festering, weeping sores by teams of angels whilst being carpet bombed from above with frogs and locusts by the Arch Angels that fly over. For this i have seen and so it shall come to pass...
Well golly darn heck no Check, why shucks, we don't even have no runnin' water nor inside plummin' yet neither..... What do you think I am Check? Some illiterate, backwards, uneducated boob? I am well informed and very well traveled. There are many places I have not been, but that does not mean I do not know anything about those places. I have never been to the moon either, but I bet you I can fill you in on a lot about it with great accuracy. Barry
Death Rays, Earthquake Control, Weather Weapons, UFOs, New Age Religion, Conspiracies at every turn...need I go on? (Laughs out loud at the irony and hypocrisy) Barry
Defence secretary William Cohen: "Others are engaging even in an eco- type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves." Don't believe in rays that can kill? Switch on a microwave but leave the door open. Bask in the invisible waves and let me know the result. UFOs as in extra terrestrials? Not personally, though who am i to completely rule the possibility out? UFOs as in unidentified flying objects of the super-power generated variety? Well now, that's when i start to believe in the likely existence of 'UFOs'. And what 'New Age Religion'? I didn't realise that my personal understanding of life had been registered as an official mode of worship.. So anyway, about those polyester gowns......
"Not realizing" is a dangerous thing. Your "personal understanding of life" is the fastest growing religious movement around. But you really do know that, because it is a conspiracy...and I quote a leading New Age guru, "The Movement has no official leader, headquarters, nor membership list, but instead is a network of groups working toward specific goals." Gasps So, Nursey, it is really you who are involved in a conspiracy to take over the world. I should have seen it sooner...how could I be so blind...????? http://www.xs4all.nl/~wichm/newage3.html http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/Cults/newage.htm Barry
You miss the sarcasm. I have traveled outside the US on numerous occasions. But what if I had never left my home State? Does that make me stupid or informed? Does traveling the world suddenly make you enlightened? The inference that Checkmate would like to make is that someone who has not visited other countries could not possibly know anything about the world. Or reversely, his wandering the globe somehow qualifies him to be a world expert. Neither is remotely true. Barry
Not last time i checked, but you can think that if you like. The fact is, i think for myself, and my observations more often than not meet with positive feedback resulting from other people's ability to see and understand for themselves what i perceive, which is why i'm willing to share it. If what works for me is beneficial for anyone else, great. If not, then leave it, i certainly don't want to hinder anyone. I don't expect anyone to take my word for anything, they should only incorporate my views into their own understanding if it is in line with what they already know, in other words, is clearly apparent to their own eyes, just as any wisdom or knowledge i have employed to help explain my experiences is (eg. 'yin and yang' or laws of physics). I don't force my beliefs onto anyone else and have great respect for quite a few major religious traditions, which i would hate to see diminished in any way. As for conspiracies, whether people choose to follow the official story about 9-11 and world power or the alternative view, they are still believing in a conspiracy...one that states that a bunch of womanising, hard-partying 'Jihadists'(??) armed with nothing but boxcutters managed to hijack four planes on the same day without even one of them being intercepted by the world's most powerful military with one of the largest intelligence organisations at its disposal, and fly them with pin-point accuracy with what one professional pilot described as 'crack fighter pilot skills' into the WTC and the Pentagon...after having only trained in flight simulators and tiny cessna light aircraft...and that this operation was masterminded by an ill (dialysis dependant) 'evil one' (who used to do buisiness with the Bush family, as did his family) from a cave in Afghanistan...in order to 'punish America' for aiding Israel (which resulted in...ahem...an enormous increase in aid to Israel...) Or, that the Israeli MOSSAD, who have a history of perpetrating 'false flag' operations, with the aid of the elements of the C.I.A. and the corrupt neocon (American-Israeli dual loyalist) government currently installed in the Whitehouse perpetrated the crime in order to facillitate the agenda we are currently witnessing, which interestingly enough is in complete accord with the ideology of Leo Strauss, a prominent neocon mentor. Both are conspiracies, by my dictionary's definition. What makes the latter example any crazier than the first? At least the latter 'alternative' view does not require one to abandon fundamental laws of physics in order to validate it as in the case of the official version of events regarding the collapse of the towers (the steel girders could not possibley have 'bent' from the temperature of the jet fuel and burning debris alone. Not even slightly). So now we've got all that out of the way, and i'm sorry to have to keep bringing the subject up again, but really Barry... ...we're all dying to see you in it! How much longer now til the big day!?!!
I wished that I had some clue what the dress has to do with anything. Isn't that the ceremonial dress of the Latter Day Saints (Mormons)? You should fit in well with them. They share your belief that humans are God. Barry
I wouldn't know, and anyway, that's not exactly what i said. Still avoiding the subject though i see. What's the matter? Surely you aren't ashamed of your beliefs? Now's your chance to shout it from the highest hill! The Lord is watching Barry...counting on you - His humble servant - to proudly stand and honour His Name!
Talk about avoiding the subject... I was serious about living in Israel. I do not know where you get your insane ramblings. You are beginning to truly bore me. Barry
Well pardon me for having drawn the conclusion that you are one of the types of christian mentioned in the article, ( i.e. who take the bible literally ) after having read posts like this: That's it Barry...when you start to feel the heat... :idea: cool and aloof, you don't want anyone spotting your vulnerabilities!
U.S. Army Officers Say: 'Mossad May Blame Arabs' Sometimes "the most likely suspect" in an act of terrorism is actually a "false flag" working for-or otherwise "framed" by- those who are responsible. Exclusive To American Free Press By Michael Collins Piper Top U.S. Army analysts believe Israel's intelligence agency, the Mossad, is "ruthless and cunning," "a wildcard" that "has [the] capability to target U.S. forces and make it look like a Palestinian/Arab act." This eye-opening assertion about America's supposed closest ally was reported in a front page story in The Washington Times on September 10-just one day before the terrorist attacks in America that are being blamed on "Arabs." The Times reported that this serious charge by U.S. Army officers against the Israelis appeared in a 68-page paper prepared by 60 officers at the U.S. Army's School for Advanced Military Studies, a training ground for up-and-coming Army officers. Then, just hours after the terrorist tra gedies, a well-known pro-Israel analyst, George Friedman, proclaimed Israel as the primary beneficiary. "The big winner today, intended or not, is the state of Israel," wrote Fried man, who said on his Internet website at stratfor.com that "There is no question … that the Israeli leadership is feeling relief" in the wake of the terrorist attack on America as a result of the benefits that Israel will glean. Considering the U.S. Army's questions about possible provocations by Israel, coupled with this noted intelligence analyst's suggestion that Israel was indeed "the big winner" on Sept. 11, a previous report in the Aug. 3, 1993 issue of The Village Voice that Israel's Mossad was perhaps involved in (or had foreknowledge of) the previous "Arab terrorist" attack on the World Trade Center, takes on new dimensions. The events of Sept. 11 do require careful attention in light of the fact that Israel has had a long and proven record in planting "false flags"-orchestrated assassinations and acts of terrorism for its own purposes and pinning those atrocities on innocent parties. Perhaps the best-known instance in which Israel used a "false flag" to cover its own trail was in the infamous Lavon Affair. It was in 1954 that several Israeli-orchestrated acts of terrorism against British targets in Egypt were carried out. Blame for the attacks was placed on the Muslim Brotherhood, which opposed the regime of Egyptian President Gamul Abdul-Nasser. However, the truth about the wave of terror is found in a once-secret cable from Col. Benjamin Givli, the head of Israel's military intelligence, who outlined the intended purpose behind the wave of terror: [Our goal] is to break the West's confidence in the existing [Egyptian] regime. The actions should cause arrests, demonstrations, and expressions of revenge. The Israeli origin should be totally covered while attention should be shifted to any other possible factor. The purpose is to prevent economic and military aid from the West to Egypt. Ultimately the truth about Israel's involvement became public and Israel was rocked internally in the wake of the scandal. Competing political elements within Israel used the scandal as a bludgeon against their opponents. But the truth about Israel's use of a "false flag" had come to international attention and demonstrated how Israel was willing to endanger innocent lives as part of its grand political strategy to expand its influence in the Middle East. BLAMING 'RIGHT WING' EXTREMISTS A shadowy "right wing" group known as "Direct Action" was accused of the attack on Goldenberg's Deli in Paris on Aug. 9, 1982. Six people died and 22 were injured. The leader of "Direct Action" was Jean-Marc Rouillan who had been operating in the Mediterranean under the cover name of "Sebas" and had been repeatedly linked to the Mossad. All references to Rouillan's Mossad links were deleted from the official reports issued at the time. However, the Algerian national news service, which has ties to French intelligence, blamed the Mossad for Rouillan's activities. Angry French intelligence officers were believed to have leaked this information. Several top French security officials quit in protest over the cover-up of Mossad complicity in Rouillan's crimes. However, other Mossad false flag operations also took place on French soil. FALSE CLUES On Oct. 3, 1980, a synagogue on Co pernicus Street was bombed in Paris. Four bystanders were killed. Nine were injured. The media frenzy which followed the incident was worldwide. Reports held that "right wing extremists" were responsible. Yet, of all the "right wing extremists" held for questioning, none was arrested. In fact, all were released. In the upper echelons of French intelligence, however, the finger of suspicion was pointed at the Mossad. According to one report: "On April 6, 1979, the same Mossad terror unit now suspected of the Copernicus carnage blew up the heavily guarded plant of CNIM industries at La Seyne-sur-Mer, near Toulon, in southeast France, where a consortium of French firms was building a nuclear reactor for Iraq. "The Mossad salted the site of the CNIM bomb blast with 'clues' followed up with anonymous phone calls to police-suggesting that the sabotage was the work of a 'conservative' environmentalist group-'the most pacific and harmless people on earth' as one source put it." MORE OF THE SAME o On June 28, 1978, Israeli agents exploded a bomb under a small passenger car in the Rue Saint Anne in Paris, killing Mohammed Boudia, an organizer for the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO). Immediately afterward, Paris police received anonymous phone calls accusing Boudia of involvement in narcotics deals and attributing his murder to the Corsican Mafia. A thorough investigation subsequently established that Mossad special-action agents were responsible for the terrorist killing. o In October 1976 the same Mossad unit kidnapped two West German students named Brigette Schulz and Thomas Reuter from their Paris hotel. Planted "clues" and anonymous phone calls made it appear that a Bavarian "neo-nazi" formation had executed the abduction. French intelligence established that the two German youths had been secretly flown to Israel, drugged, tortured, coerced into a false "confession of complicity" in PLO activities, and then anonymously incarcerated in one of the Israeli government's notorious political prisons. o In February 1977 a German-born, naturalized U.S. citizen named William Jahnke arrived in Paris for some secretive business meetings. He soon vanished, leaving no trace. Paris police were anonymously informed that Jahnke had been involved in a high-level South Korean bribery affair and "eliminated" when the deal went sour. A special team of investigators from SDECE, the leading French intelligence agency, eventually determined that Jahnke had been "terminated" by the Mossad, which suspected him of selling secret information to the Libyans. Along with other details of this sordid case, the SDECE learned that Jahnke had been "fingered" to the Mossad by his own former employer, the CIA. BLAMING THE LIBYANS One of Israel's most outrageous "false flag" operations involved a wild propaganda story aimed at discrediting Libyan leader Muamar Qaddafi. In the early months of the administration of President Ronald Reagan, the U.S. media began promoting a story that a "Libyan hit squad" was in the United States to assassinate the president. This inflamed public sentiment against Libya. Suddenly, however, the "hit squad" stories vanished. Ultimately it was discovered that the source of the story was Manucher Ghorbanifar, a former Iranian SAVAK (secret police) agent with close ties to the Mossad. Even the liberal Washington Post acknowledged that the CIA itself believed that Ghorbanifar was a liar who "had made up the hit-squad story in order to cause problems for one of Is rael's enemies." The Los Angeles Times had already blown the whistle on Israel's scare stories. "Israeli intelligence, not the Reagan administration," reported the Times, "was a major source of some of the most dramatic published reports about a Libyan assassination team allegedly sent to kill President Reagan and other top U.S. officials . . . Israel, which informed sources said has 'wanted an excuse to go in and bash Libya for a longtime,' may be trying to build American public support for a strike against [Qaddafi]." In other words, Israel had been promoting the former SAVAK agent, Ghorbanifar, to official Washing ton as a reliable source. In fact, he was a Mossad disinformation operative waving a "false flag"-yet another Israeli scheme to blame Libya for its own misdeeds, using one "false flag" (Iran's SAVAK) to lay blame on another "false flag" (Libya). The Mossad was almost certainly responsible for the bombing of the La Belle discotheque in West Berlin on April 5, 1986. However, claims were made that there was "irrefutable" evidence that the Libyans were responsible. A U.S. serviceman was killed. President Ronald Reagan responded with an attack on Libya. However, intelligence insiders believed that Israel's Mossad had concocted the phony "evidence" to "prove" Libyan responsibility. West Berlin police director Manfred Ganschow, who took charge of the investigation, cleared the Libyans, saying, "This is a highly political case. Some of the evidence cited in Washington may not be evidence at all, merely assumptions supplied for political reasons." BLAMING THE SYRIANS On April 18, 1986, Nezar Hindawi, a 32-year-old Jordanian man was arrested in London after security guards found that one of the passengers boarding an Israeli plane bound for Jerusalem, Ann Murphy, 22, was carrying a square, flat sheet of plastic explosive in the double bottom of her carry-on bag. Miss Murphy told security men that the detonator (disguised as a calculator) had been given to her by her fiancee, Hindawi. He was charged with attempted sabotage and attempted murder. Word was leaked that Hindawi had confessed and claimed that he had been hired by Gen. Mohammed Al-Khouli, the intelligence director of the Syrian air force. Also implicated were others including the Syrian ambassador in London. The French authorities warned the British prime minister that there was more to the case than met the eye-that is, Israeli involvement. This was later confirmed in reports in the Western press. BLAMING THE PLO In 1970, King Hussein of Jordan was provided incriminating intelligence that suggested the Palestine Liberation Organization was plotting to murder him and seize power. Infuriated, Hussein mobilized his forces for what has become known as the "Black September" purge of the PLO. Thousands of Palestinians living in Jordan were rounded up, some of the leaders were tortured, and in the end, masses of refugees were driven from Jordan to Lebanon. New data, coming to light after the murder of two leading Mossad operatives in Larnaka, Cyprus, suggested that the entire operation had been a Mossad covert action, led by one of its key operatives, Sylvia Roxburgh. She contrived an affair with King Hussein and served as the linchpin for a major Mossad coup designed to destabilize the Arabs. In 1982, just when the PLO had abandoned the use of terrorism, the Mossad spread disinformation about "terror attacks" on Israeli settlements along the northern border in order to justify a full-scale military invasion of Lebanon. Years later, even leading Israeli spokesmen, such as former Foreign Minister Abba Eban, admitted that the reports of "PLO terrorism" had been contrived by the Mossad. It is also worth noting that the attempted assassination in London of Israeli ambassador Shlomo Argov was initially blamed on the PLO. The attempted assassination was cited by Israel as one excuse for its 1982 incursion into Lebanon. In fact, the diplomat was one of Israel's "doves" and inclined toward a friendly disposition of Israel's conflict with the PLO and an unlikely target of PLO wrath. It appears that the assassination attempt was carried out by the Mossad-under yet another "false flag"-for two purposes: (a) elimination of a domestic "peacenik" friendly toward the Palestinians; and (b) pinning yet another crime on the PLO.
