Info. Dominance: The Philosophy of Total Propaganda Control?

Nursey · Dec 29, 2004

It's about time i started a topic specifically for this subject!
Now if you're not interested in reading a large passage of pasted information, skip this post. Don't nag me about it as i'm not going to do a university degree on the subject in order to rewrite it in my own words for your benefit. :roll:
But if you are really interested in understanding what's going on in the world, i urge you to read. Reality is stranger - and more interesting - than fiction.

The concept of ‘information dominance’ is the key to understanding US and UK propaganda strategy and a central component of the US aim of ‘total spectrum dominance’. It redefines our notions of spin and propaganda and the role of the media in capitalist society. To say that it is about total propaganda control is to force the English language into contortions that the term propaganda simply cannot handle. Information dominance is not about the success of propaganda in the conventional sense with which we are all familiar. It is not about all those phrases ‘winning hearts and minds’, about truth being ‘the first casualty’ about ‘media manipulation’ about ‘opinion control’ or about ‘information war’. Or, to be more exact - it is about these things but none of them can quite stretch to accommodate the integrated conception of media and communication encapsulated in the phrase information dominance.

Information dominance is a concept of elegant simplicity and at the same time complex interconnectedness. It plays a key role in US military strategy and foreign policy. The now quite well known statement of this is contained in the Pentagon’s Joint Vision 2020, where the key term is ‘full spectrum dominance’ which ‘implies that US forces are able to conduct prompt, sustained and synchronized operations with combinations of forces tailored to specific situations and with access to and freedom to operate in all domains – space, sea, land, air and information’. [1]

The inclusion of information on the list is not surprising, but it has not attracted much attention in public debate even in the anti war movement. The question is how central is information? The US Army regards it as important enough to issue a 314 page manual on it in November 2003. Titled Information Operations: Doctrine, Tactics, Techniques, and Procedures, the first sentence states unambiguously: ‘information is an element of combat power’. [2] The Army defines Information Operations as: ‘the employment of the core capabilities of electronic warfare, computer network operations, psychological operations, military deception, and operations security, in concert with specified supporting and related capabilities, to affect or defend information and information systems, and to influence decision making’.

This already suggests a range of activities wider than those traditionally associated with propaganda. A suggestion reinforced by the aim of information operations, which is to secure ‘information dominance’. The US military are not terribly open about this agenda and tend not to speak about it in public. It doesn’t feature in the ‘approved for public release’ manual on Information Operations. But internally there has been a tong term debate about information dominance.

To the outsider discussions about how ‘information dominance’ differs from ‘information superiority’ might seem arcane, but they are revealing. For example, in a paper written back in 1997 Jim Winters and John Giffin of the US Space and Information Operations Directorate argued that information superiority was insufficient: ‘at some base point “superiority” means an advantage of 51-49, on some arbitrary metric scale. That is not enough of an advantage to give us the freedom of action required to establish “Full Spectrum dominance”’. Dominance implies ‘a mastery of the situation’ Superiority ‘only an edge’. According to Winters and Giffin ‘We think of dominance in terms of "having our way" - "Overmatch" over all operational possibilities. This connotation is “qualitative” rather than “quantitative”. When dominance occurs, nothing done, makes any difference. We have sufficient knowledge to stop anything we don't want to occur, or do anything we want to do.’ (my emphasis) [3]

This could hardly be any clearer about the agenda of the US military. There are two new elements to information dominance compared to traditional conceptions of propaganda. The first is the integration of propaganda and psychological operations into a much wider conception of information war. The second is the integration of information war into the core of military strategy.

Traditional conceptions of propaganda involve crafting the message and distributing it via government media or independent news media. Current conceptions of information war go much further and incorporate the gathering, processing and deployment of information including via computers, intelligence and military information (command and control) systems. The key preoccupation for the military is ‘interoperability’ where information systems talk to and work with each other. Interoperability is a result of the computer revolution which has led to the ‘Revolution in Military Affairs’. Now propaganda and psychological operations are simply part of a larger information armoury. As Col Kenneth Allard has written, the 2003 attack on Iraq ‘will be remembered as a conflict in which information fully took its place as a weapon of war’ Allard tells a familiar story in military writings on such matters: ‘in the 1990s, the Joint Chiefs of Staff began to promote a vision of future warfare in which C4ISR (command, control, communications, computers, intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance) systems would be forged into a new style of American warfare in which interoperability was the key to information dominance—and information dominance the key to victory.’ [4] According to Lt Gen Keith B. Alexander, the US Army deputy chief of staff for intelligence the way forward for integrating intelligence and information across the military is the creation of ‘Information Dominance Centers’. There are already 15 of these in the US and in Kuwait and Baghdad. [5] Information dominance is not something dreamt up by the bush gang in the White House – or even by their ideologues in the Project for a New American Century. It is mainstream US military doctrine. In fact it is even used by the Democrats in pronouncements on ‘progressive internationalism’. [6] Although it originates in the US, information dominance is also embraced in the UK. Given the close integration of US and UK global propaganda during the attack on Iraq, it could hardly be otherwise. [7] However the thinking underlying UK propaganda operations has transformed in the past decade and both the Ministry of Defence and the Foreign and Commonwealth Office have staff assigned to ‘information operations’. In future conflicts, according to the British Army, ‘maintaining moral as well as information dominance will rank as important as physical protection’. [8] Or as John Spellar MP, the Minister for the Armed Forces put it in a speech in January 2000 ‘we shall depend increasingly, not on simple numerical superiority in firepower, but on information dominance’. [9]

The interoperability of the various types of ‘weaponized information’ [1 has far reaching, if little noticed, implications for the integration of propaganda and media institutions into the war machine. The experience of Iraq in 2003 shows how the planned integration of the media into instruments of war fighting is developing. It also shows the increased role for the private sector in information dominance, a role which reflects wider changes in the armed services in the US and the UK. [11] Information dominance provides the underpinning rationale for all information related work. As applied to traditional media management activities the key to dominance is that ‘nothing done makes any difference’. In practice this means that the US and UK can tolerate dissent in the media and alternative accounts on the internet. Dissent only matters if it interferes with their plans. As US military authors Winters and Giffin put it: ‘Achieving ID involves two components: 1) building up and protecting friendly information; and 2) degrading information received by your adversary.’ Both of these refer not simply to military information systems but also to propaganda and the news media.

Integrating the media: 1. The system of embedding

Seen in the context of information dominance embedding is a clear means of building up and protecting ‘friendly’ information. The Faustian pact allows journalists better access to the fighting than in any conflict since Vietnam. But the access is on military terms, can be rescinded if it does not meet the interests of the military. Although rarely highlighted in discussions of embedding, the Pentagon issued a fifty point document titled Public Affairs Guidance listing what could and could not be reported. [12] They also insisted that all embeds sign a contract which does not mince its words, noting that reporters must: 'follow the direction and orders of the Government'. [13] In fact the tendency was for reporters to become fully integrated into military command structures as this comment from embedded reporter Richard Gaisford, on BBC News 24 confirms: ‘We have to check each story we have with them [the military]. And if they're not sure at the immediate level above us - that's the Captain who's our media liaison officer - he will check with the Colonel who is obviously above him and then they will check with Brigade headquarters as well.' [14] ‘The key phrase here is ‘the level above us’.

Furthermore the system of embedding made the journalists dependent on the military for transport, food and crucially physical protection. BBC reporter Ben Brown relates his experience: There was an Iraqi who … jumped up with an RPG and he was about to fire it at us because we were just standing there and this other Warrior just shot him with their big machine gun and there was a big hole in his chest. That was the closest I felt to being almost too close to the troops ... because if he hadn’t been there he would have killed us and…afterwards I sought out the gunner who had done that and shook his hand. [15]

Others journalists got closer and crossed the line from reporting to engaging in combat. Clive Myrie of the BBC has admitted: There was bullets flying everywhere. We get out of the, out of the Land Rover and we hide in a ditch. One of the marines said; why don't you make yourself useful? And he's throwing these flares at me. And he's throwing the flares at me and I'm throwing them at the guy who's got to light them and send them off into the sky, and I'm thinking, why, what am I doing here? [16] Perhaps most strikingly, Gavin Hewitt of the BBC has admitted picking out targets for the military: I shouted across to the Captain 'that truck over there – I think these guys are going to attack us'… Within seconds a Bradley fighting vehicle was opening up – tracers were flying across the field… eventually the truck went up – boom – like this… And of course all the unit were delighted. From then on the bonding grew tighter. [17]

By all official accounts on both sides of the Atlantic embedding was a great success. [18] The Secretary of the Ministry of Defence, D Notice committee in the UK reported that despite the hundreds of embedded journalists and unilaterals in theatre, there had not been a single serious breach of security by any part of the UK media. The system and the advice in the five standing DA-Notices had proved entirely adequate, and as able to fulfil their role in such operations as in other conflicts and in peace. [19] The UK Ministry of Defence even engaged a private firm to assess how successfully embedding had worked to manipulate coverage. According to the results of the exercise: ‘commercial analysis of the print output… produced during the combat phase shows that 90% of embedded correspondents’ reporting was either positive or neutral’ [2

Integrating the media: 2. ‘deny, degrade, destroy’

The second part of achieving information Dominance is the ‘ability to deny, degrade, destroy and/or effectively blind’ enemy capabilities’. [21] Enemy or adversary capabilities in the philosophy of information dominance do not distinguish between actions of declared adversaries and those of independent media. The ‘unfriendly’ information must be destroyed wherever it comes from. This is perhaps best illustrated by the attack on Al Jazeera office in Kabul in 2001 which the Pentagon justified by claiming al Qaeda activity in the al Jazeera office. As it turned out, this referred to broadcast interviews conducted by al Jazeera with Taliban officials. [22]

The various attacks on Al Jazeera in Kabul, Basra and Baghdad should be seen in this context. [23] As should as the killings of unilateral journalists and the attempt to discredit other critics. For example the British minister of Defence attempted to discredit the leading independent reporter Robert Fisk,when he uncovered missile fragments fired by the US into a crowded marketplace in Baghdad killing over 60 civilians. These efforts are consistent with the doctrine of degrading or destroying enemy information capabilty. It is not critical information and commentary that is feared by the US and UK, rather it is information that might hamper their ability to ‘do anything we want to do’. If anything the evidence is that the targeting of independent media and critics of the US is widening. The Pentagon is reportedly co-ordinating the production of an Information Operations Roadmap drafted by the Information Operations office of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. According to Captain Gerald Mauer, the Assistant Deputy Director of the office, the roadmap noted that information operations would be directed against an ‘adversary’. He went on to say that when the paper got to the office of the Under Secretary of Defence for Policy (Douglas Feith), it was changed to say that information operations will attempt to ‘disrupt, corrupt or usurp adversarial decision making’ ‘In other words’, notes retired US Army Colonel Sam Gardiner, ‘we will even go after friends if they are against what we are doing or want to do’. [24] No doubt the misinformation campaign against the French government in the US press in 2003, is the result of such decisions. In the UK according to Major Nigel Smith of the 15 Psychological Operations Group based at Chicksands, staffing is to be expanded and ‘strategic information operations will take on a new importance’. [25]

Integrating the media: 3. Towards Freedom

Interoperability is central to the post conflict phase of ‘reconstruction’ in Iraq too. Here we also note the integration of the media into the propaganda apparatus of the US. The collapse of distinctions between independent news media, public affairs (PR) work and psychological operations is striking. The ‘reconstruction’ of Iraqi media began on the 10th April with the first broadcast of Towards Freedom a joint US/UK television project broadcast on the same frequency as the former Iraqi state television service. The service included programming supplied by ABC, CBS, Fox and PBS networks in the US. The UK element was produced by the private company already contracted by the foreign Office to provide satellite propaganda arund the world. CBS president Andrew Heyward reportedly became convinced that ‘this is a good thing to do… a patriotic thing to do’ after conversations with ‘some of the most traditional minded colleagues’ at CBS. [26] Only CNN refused to join in. A spokesperson noted ‘we didn’t think that as an independent, global news organisation it was appropriate to participate in a United States government video transmission’. [27] And of course that is what it was, transmitted into Iraq by means of Commando Solo the psyops aircraft used to broadcast propaganda by the US psyops operation.

But Towards Freedom was a stop gap to be replaced by a new television service for Iraq. In keeping with the philosophy of information dominance this was paid for by the Pentagon and supplied, not by an independent news organisation but, by a defence contractor, Scientific Applications International Corporation (SAIC). Its expertise in the area - according to its website - is in ‘information operations’ and ‘information dominance’. [28] The SAIC effort quickly ran into trouble however. Its Iraq Media Network, which cost $20million over three months, was not obsequious enough for the Coalition Provisional Authority. Within weeks ‘occupying authority chief L. Paul Bremer III placed controls on IMN content and clamped down on the independent media in Iraq, closing down some Iraqi-run newspapers and radio and television stations.’ [29] According to Index on Censorship ‘Managers were told to drop the readings from the Koran, the “vox-pop” man-in-the-street interviews (usually critical of the US invasion) and even to run their content past the wife of a US-friendly Iraqi Kurdish leader for a pre-broadcast check. The station rejected the demands and dug in their heels.’ [3 But this did not stop Bremer and further incidents have shown the preoccupation with control, culminating in a nine point list of ‘prohibited activity issued by Bremer in June 2003. It decreed that publishing material that ‘is patently false and is calculated to provoke opposition to the CPA or undermine legitimate processes towards self government’ would henceforth be prohibited. This is not too dissimilar to the Nazi press law introduced in German in 1933. It stated that journalists must ‘regulate their work in accordance with National socialism as a philosophy of life and as a conception of government’. [31]

As Index on Censorship notes: ‘Bremer will "reserve the power to advise" the IMN on any aspect of its performance, "including any matter of content" and the power to hire and fire IMN staff. Thus the man in absolute authority over the country's largest, richest and best equipped media network is also his own regulator and regulator of his rivals, with recourse to the US Army to enforce his rulings.’ In particular the assault on Al Jazeera continues. In September the Iraq governing council voted to ban reports from al Jazeera and Al-Arabiya on the grounds that they incite violence. As evidence of this, one member of the Iraqi National Congress (INC – set up by the PR agency the Rendon group funded by the US government ) who voted for the ban, noted that the television stations describe the opposition to the occupation as ‘”the resistance”. They’re not the resistance, they are thugs and criminals’ he said. [32] This is a statement pregnant with irony, since the head of the INC Ahmed Chalabi is a convicted fraudster. In November, as casualties mounted, 30 media organizations, lead by the Associated Press, complained to the Pentagon that they had ‘documented numerous examples of U.S. troops physically harassing journalists’. The letter was signed by representatives from CNN, ABC and The Boston Globe, amongst others. [33] Information dominance achieved?

It is evident that the US and its UK ally are intent on ruling the world and that information control has become central to that effort. The key to understanding information dominance is to be clear that it is not dissent in itself that the US planners object to. Rather it is dissent that hampers their ability to do whatever they want that matters. As the military themselves put it: ‘When dominance occurs, nothing done, makes any difference’ In other words it is not the expression of dissent that is a problem, but the expression of dissent which is part of a movement which challenges US dominance. As the experience of the Iraqi Media Network shows, dominance does not always occur where there is resistance. Resistance from journalists, resistance from nation states, direct resistance to occupation and resistance in the form of the anti-war movement. All of these are obstacles in the way of information dominance. Although the US and UK regimes have massive resources at their disposal to pursue information dominance they are faced at every turn by resistance and that in the end is the only thing which can stop the US achieving final information or full spectrum dominance.
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Are Independent Journalists Being 'Executed' By the Bush Administration?
"The number of casualties among independent journalists in Iraq is higher, percent-wise than ANY OTHER GROUP in the war zone.

Since the war started, a total of at least half a dozen journalists have been killed - an outrageously high percentage of casualties - the highest for any single group of people in the war zone, from the civilian support personnel to the soldiers themselves. It seems way, way beyond coincidence that most of the fallen journalists are non-embedded writers dedicated to telling the truth. The latest death is British reporter (Channel 4, ITN) Gaby Rado, covering the action in Northern Iraq. Rado died under mysterious circumstances in a "fall" from a hotel roof. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/2900379.stm Not long before, fellow ITN journalist Terry Lloyd was killed in Iraq by 'friendly fire' from Allied forces. Lloyd was one of the "unilateral" reporters, travelling freely around the war zone, as opposed to being "embedded."

U.S. threatens to eliminate independant journalists

Al-Jazeera Tells the Truth About War
My station is a threat to American media control - and they know it

by Faisal Bodi

"Last month, when it became clear that the US-led drive to war was irreversible, I - like many other British journalists - relocated to Qatar for a ringside seat. But I am an Islamist journalist, so while the others bedded down at the £1m media center at US central command in As-Sayliyah, I found a more humble berth in the capital Doha, working for the internet arm of al-Jazeera.
And yet, only a week into the war, I find myself working for the most sought-after news resource in the world. On March 23, the night the channel screened the first footage of captured US PoW's, al-Jazeera was the most searched item on the internet portal, Lycos, registering three times as many hits as the next item.
I do not mean to brag - people are turning to us simply because the western media coverage has been so poor. For although Doha is just a 15-minute drive from central command, the view of events from here could not be more different. Of all the major global networks, al-Jazeera has been alone in proceeding from the premise that this war should be viewed as an illegal enterprise. It has broadcast the horror of the bombing campaign, the blown-out brains, the blood-spattered pavements, the screaming infants and the corpses. Its team of on-the-ground, unembedded correspondents has provided a corrective to the official line that the campaign is, barring occasional resistance, going to plan.
Last Tuesday, while western channels were celebrating a Basra "uprising" which none of them could have witnessed since they don't have reporters in the city, our correspondent in the Sheraton there returned a rather flat verdict of "uneventful" - a view confirmed shortly afterwards by a spokesman for the opposition Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq. By reporting propaganda as fact, the mainstream media had simply mirrored the Blair/Bush fantasy that the people who have been starved by UN sanctions and deformed by depleted uranium since 1991 will greet them as saviors."
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My post in another forum:
How can you seriously expect me to trust anything that comes from mainstream western media sources? The U.S clearly stated just prior to launching this war that they would consider unembedded media as a legitimate military target, and sure enough there has been an unprecedentedly high percentage of journalists killed or harassed by the U.S. army throughout this war. And when you see they are capable of such heinous behaviour, what makes you so unwilling to accept that the same thinktank could easily be responsible for paying mercenaries to conduct a few powerful psyops designed to distract and morally outrage the masses whenever there is a danger of public opinion being swayed against the occupation? You underestimate what those who lied to send your soldiers to kill innocents and their own deaths are capable of.
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Nursey · Dec 29, 2004

US black propaganda operations from 9-11 to Iraq

A comprehensive overview of CIA - MI6 -Mossad black propaganda operations masquerading as "Islamic terrosim" from 9-11 to the Margaret Hassan kidnapping in Iraq.

November 20, 2004—The pattern has been consistent and obvious. Every news report or scandal that has been detrimental to the Bush/Anglo-American war agenda has been followed, within hours, with shocking executions (real and staged) that are attributed to "terrorist insurgents," despite questionable circumstances, non-verifiable evidence and unreliable sources, such as "unnamed" intelligence and military officials.

The parties responsible for these acts have not and likely will not be identified, thanks in large part to deliberate US/Pentagon blackouts of reporting from war zones, and disinformation-laden and Bush-controlled corporate media.

What is clear, regardless of the identities of the perpetrators, is that the results have exclusively benefited the US/Bush administration war machine, while completely undermining the political and public relations objectives of anti-US/anti-occupation opposition movements and groups. The methods used in the kidnapping and murder of Margaret Hassan, Nick Berg and others neatly fit the profile of classic western intelligence and counterinsurgency operations.

See link above for full article.

Nursey · Dec 27, 2005

Neocons Use CNN to Continue Psyops Against American Muslims
Sunday December 25th 2005

CNN tells us about a “covert” FBI snoop program to check “suspicious radiation levels outside more than 100 predominantly Muslim-related sites in the greater Washington, D.C., area, as well as various sites in other cities,” thus providing more anti-Muslim fodder for the undiscerning American public. “It is a waste of time, it is a waste of resources and it is causing us to be concerned about our citizenship, our constitutional rights,” Nihad Awad, executive director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, told CNN.

Mr. Awad, however, is missing the point—the Straussian neocons don’t give a whit about the constitutional rights of Arabs in America and this “covert” program, obviously a “waste of time” that will turn up nothing, is not designed to protect us from dirty bombs but rather to further stigmatize Muslims as crazed terrorists. Snooping on “more than 100 predominantly Muslim-related sites” is intended to send a strong message—you can’t trust Muslims and you may be in danger if you live near a mosque.

It should be noted that CNN is a branch of the 4th Army PSYOPS group staffed the National Security Council’s Office of Public Diplomacy (OPD), “a shadowy government propaganda agency that planted stories in the U.S. media supporting the Reagan Administration’s Central America policies,” as Fairness & Accuracy in Reporting revealed way back in 2000. OPD is a “vast psychological warfare operation of the kind the military conducts to influence a population in enemy territory,” according to Miami Herald. Although we are assured OPD was shut down in the wake of revelations surrounding the Iran-Contra criminal conspiracy, “the 4th PSYOPS group still operates,” thus demonstrating there is not much in a name or bureaucratic designation.

FAIR continues:

An unofficial strategy paper published by the U.S. Naval War College in 1996 and written by an Army officer (”Military Operations in the CNN World: Using the Media as a Force Multiplier”) urged military commanders to find ways to “leverage the vast resources of the fourth estate” for the purposes of “communicating the [mission’s] objective and endstate, boosting friendly morale, executing more effective psychological operations, playing a major role in deception of the enemy, and enhancing intelligence collection.”

As former Lt. Col. Karen Kwiatkowski informs us, the Straussian neocons currently hold sway over the Pentagon and presumably the 4th PSYOPS group and other disinformation and “deception” operations. Kwiatkowski was assigned to the Pentagon’s Near East and South Asia bureau under the control of the execrable Zionist neocon Douglas Feith. Other appointees hailed from neocon “think tanks” such as the American Enterprise Institute and the Washington Institute for Near East Policy. “Along with Feith, all of the political appointees have in common a close identification with the views of the right-wing Likud Party in Israel,” writes Jim Lobe.

Thus it can be assumed CNN—long infested with PSYOPS operatives and the corporate media long ago penetrated by the CIA under Operation Mockingbird—is running yet another propaganda campaign designed to stigmatize Muslims as the Straussian neocons, as the American branch of the reactionary and fascist Likudites, prepare the nation for “world war four” (as former CIA director and neocon James Woolsey deems it).

XerxesX · Jan 1, 2006

Hi there Nursey
I see the typical ( propagandatroll) ending comes in, both as to Likudites in your posting, and in the original links last comment mentioning a jewish"controlled" media.
Hm ! I think its symptomative of the last desperation of argument. A baddie thrown in to make the whole page look bad. Anyone believing that the Mossad and the Hollywood filmindustry plow with the same ploug is sadly mistaken
When things are SO see-through and their ploy is misinformation and historical revisionism, and attacks on the human mind, one is forced to retort:

Hudson River Protection Plan & No Child Left Behind. Its paralell to the quarrel wether to spy on us-citizens. This one being psyoperation against conservation and edu.

And yes ! It IS an Evil Machination. And when that is an evil use of psyop-tactics against ones own citizens, one must continue to take their use of FREEDOM, LIBERTY etc, and use it against them. But the only TRUE conspiracy i see here, ( appart from wartactics and some slide into civilian politick ), is the utter stupidity and lack of rethorical skill on behalf of the democratic party.

Joeslogic · Jan 1, 2006

Xerk thank you so much for providing a level of sanity here. I know we have had our disagreements and have always been able to conduct ideological debate in polite manner. I gave up trying to talk to Nursey because it is so difficult and I'm afraid she has no respect for any of my opinion. After wasting a huge amount of my time and reading the propaganda piece about propaganda. (Kind of like two Jerry Springer contestants calling each other liar back and forth) I was thinking "where to even start" but you pretty much summed it up.

Nursey, I do not belittle the use of pasting except for the sheer volume used coming from suspect sources forces me to say something.

I'm just a regular blue collar type myself not a college educated snob. But I generally stick to what I believe and logical reasons as to why. I'm afraid your pursuit of proof to validate your point only further disillusions you.

XerxesX · Jan 1, 2006

Hi Joe ! Totally agree that its neccesary to sum it up. Nursey! You post so much of it that it in it self is an obfuscation
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It should be noted that CNN is a branch of the 4th Army PSYOPS group staffed the National Security Council’s Office of Public Diplomacy (OPD), “a shadowy government propaganda agency that planted stories in the U.S. media supporting the Reagan Administration’s Central America policies,” as Fairness & Accuracy in Reporting revealed way back in 2000. OPD is a “vast psychological warfare operation of the kind the military conducts to influence a population in enemy territory,” according to Miami Herald

I do not know what kind of people write for the M.Herald, but i doubt that any mistake here is based on left-right ideology. CNNs political string could of course try correct democratically elected politicians mistakes on a long-term base. So could the M.H-source. Still ! Its farfetched to call the CNN a part of an armycorps. ( But all major media will be connected to its mothercountry, pluss more, intcom ).

In this case the CNNs prime function NOW, would be to show that not everybody in the states is behinds Bushes Iraq-policy and this corresponds to the intelligence-"leakes" that happened "youknowwhen" after "youknowwhat". I interpreted it in a thesis ,an antithesis, and a synthesis, 1: its a worried reaction from the professional society. 2: Its a fabrication of "the democratical divide" spelling: we can still negotiate etc SeeCNN above. 3: Its both, as the different agencies have different conserns and will look at the ball from the angle of different players.

Just like chinese, or european, or russian media will play their peoples love for own country and tolerance for others in a game that is defined by the "others" presumptive actions.

Its important to see it from a coaches view as well. And a lot of the time, the players on a teame, can run as they wish and play "their" game. Thats the idea about free media. They have the same interest at specialisation as any other ecosystem. One fast, one strong. Please remember to keep the rules of the game though. Thats very important.

XerxesX · Jan 2, 2006

Propaganda as sleight of information, is after all a neccesary part of life after introduction of speach !

Nursey · Jan 5, 2006

Joeslogic said:

I gave up trying to talk to Nursey because it is so difficult and I'm afraid she has no respect for any of my opinion.
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None whatsoever. Though i don't totally disrespect you because i tend to think you do actually, sincerely believe your seriously flawed (in my opinion) view of things, unlike the cynical scum (like those in power) who knowingly mislead. Though at times, it has appeared as if you are contorting when faced with certain irrefutable facts in order to shape reality to your views rather than cede any ground on your beliefs. In which case you are a worthless, cowardly cheat.

Nursey · Jan 6, 2006

XerxesX said:

Nursey! You post so much of it that it in it self is an obfuscation
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Well that's why i put the 'disclaimer' at the beginning. I originally went through it trying to select the most important bits, but with it being so complex i gave up and felt it would be better just to reproduce it in its' entirety.

I see the typical ( propagandatroll) ending comes in, both as to Likudites in your posting, and in the original links last comment mentioning a jewish"controlled" media.
Hm ! I think its symptomative of the last desperation of argument. A baddie thrown in to make the whole page look bad. Anyone believing that the Mossad and the Hollywood filmindustry plow with the same ploug is sadly mistaken
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But there is a predominantly jewish controlled media. That's fact, not propaganda. The propaganda is that we shouldn't investigate the significance of that due to the taboos that surround the subject.

ucicare · Jan 6, 2006

Nursey said:

But there is a predominantly jewish controlled media. That's fact, not propaganda. The propaganda is that we shouldn't investigate the significance of that due to the taboos that surround the subject.
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For once I agree with Nursey.

Barry

Joeslogic · Jan 7, 2006

Media is predominately Jewish controlled and that is a valid point. We should also mention the medical establishment as well as the American Bar association I would guess. Which is where the media cooperates (the Bar Association) with the legal system closely to create a false impression of actually why goes on in the court system. If Americans knew what kind of activism takes place there would be uproar that would be herd during the next election cycle and the Dems would have to think twice about obstructing conservative nominations to the bench.

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