Here is a link to his web page for last minute update before going to the voting booth in case you’re an undecided swing voter. http://www.joe2006.com/ Oh that’s right the page is down Most of you would not know real Election Day dirty tricks and fraud if it stared you in the face. Only a change in expression from perky to concern by Katie Curic could validate the validity that something is awry.
Ok if this were a mexican election .... never mind that. Leiber man lost by a narrow margin in a Democratic primary. The Dems have a vested interest in pounding any pro war candidate in their party and have established such. But the more telling thing is that despite all the rhetoric the Dems are by and large "milk toast" "luke warm" in their anti-war stance. It's the radicals that have taken hold of the party. So you have to ask yourself what does that mean for swing voters? It's my guess that since Lieberman is running now as an Independant that he will take votes from moderate Dems as well as moderate Reps. and he is likely to take the predominant percentage of the swing and independant voters. What is interesting is that the Dems simply cannot let it happen that Lieberman is elected they have a vested interest that he not be elected. It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
Do you honestly think that the only reason Lieberman lost the primary is because of his stance on the war?
Well then, in that case you need to read a little more. Lieberman has drifted quite far away from his original platform when he was elected. He ran originally as a conservative democrat. He's drifted much to far to the right and is way too cozy with the Bush administration for most democratic voters. Those are the main reasons he lost the primary election. I don't see him being on the Senate much longer.
I guess we will see but he is ahead as an indy. And he is still socially and fiscally liberal. It's all about anti-Bushism. Thats the new McCarthyism. (if there really ever were such a thing but thats a different topic) Up there in the North East they think they were robbed and are insane with anger. They Hate Bush. I say fuckem.
Since when is Lieberman socially liberal? He's a moral conservative. That's one of his biggest alignments with the republican party. And the opposing party always hates the president. Look at how republicans, including yourself, view Clinton.
Clinton was a really really really bad president he did a huge amount of harm to our country we put up with way way to much the Reps were extreamly accomidating to Clinton moreso than was needed. The opposite is true regarding Libs and Bush.
How exactly did Clinton do this "huge" amount of damage to our country. And how have the "liberals" been too hard on Bush? In my opinion many people have rolled over and let Bush do too much. Prior to 9/11 Bush was a lame duck president, with good reason. He's had control of the house and the senate, and he still can't push his policies through. And somehow this is the liberal media's fault. Bush has gotten away with murder because the greatest act of terrorism in the history of this country happened on his watch. Clinton got a blowjob and balanced the budget while overseeing a booming economy and falling interest rates. How does that make him a bad president.
Clinton sold the country out to any and all socialist or communist interest. We can thank him for the bloom of nuclear proliferation he gave the technology to Korea and virtually all of China's biggest gains in the intelligence war occurred under his watch and by his doing. He actually took campaign money from communist China. He hated the fact that Russia had gone democratic and tried to destroy the fragile democratic growth in Russia unsuccessfully. The home PC boom really began during his term and he had the advantage of riding the coattails of the technology boom and the Regan economy. The last few years in office he tried real hard to cause maximum damage through government regulation. He gave bush a depressed economy and Bush turned it around and just take a look at what bush has guided us through and right now to this day has a better employment rate.
What is soooo very revealing is the fact that this truth is so outrageous and little known that this is the typical response. It speaks loads about how media works doesn’t it? I forgot the Columbian Drug lord money so I'll add that one in you can call me full of shit and challenge me on that one also Chester.
In the Peoples Republic of China there are no private businesses. All businesses are owned by the government. Also Budist Monks do not have worldly posessions and certianly not money. Al Gore accepted donation of I believe it was 2k each from something like 20 Monks? Read this: There is tons on this if you need more whats interesting is how it was blackballed by the media. If this were Bush instead of Clinton? Forget about it. http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/4/26/153933.shtml Gorelick's Memo Impeded Probe of Clinton's China Scandal Scott Wheeler, CNSNews.com Monday, April 26, 2004 A senior U.S. government official has told CNSNews.com that the 1995 memo written by former Assistant Attorney General Jamie Gorelick, an issue in the 9/11 commission's investigation of U.S. intelligence failures, also created "a roadblock" to the probe of the 1996 Clinton re-election campaign's fund-raising scandal. The memo's relevance in the investigation of the fund-raising scandal has received scant attention in the media, but four sources, including the government official, have explained and corroborated details of the connection for CNSNews.com. CNSNews.com's sources question whether the guidelines purportedly put in place by Gorelick in 1995 for Justice Department investigations were actually intended to shield President Bill Clinton, Vice President Al Gore and top Democrat campaign fund raisers from the subsequent congressional investigations of the illegal money-raising activities. However, there appears to be no evidence at this point that the Gorelick memo was written for that express purpose. Because the memo created a barrier for U.S. intelligence agencies to share information with the FBI, one of its unintended consequences might have been to prevent the FBI from receiving the necessary intelligence to stop the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, the worst in American history. Memo's Link to Money-Raising Scandal The fund-raising investigation involved the Clinton campaign's alleged acceptance of donations from operatives working for the People's Republic of China as well as other foreign sources. But the Gorelick memo of 1995 prevented intelligence collected by U.S. agents overseas from being used in domestic criminal investigations. Peter M. Leitner, a longtime employee at the Department of Defense and currently a senior strategic trade adviser at DoD, was responsible at one point for deciding whether to issue a license to a Chinese corporation seeking to buy a McDonnell Douglas machine tools factory. At the same time, according to congressional investigations of the fund-raising controversy, the Clinton campaign was receiving millions of dollars in donations from Chinese businessmen. Leitner told CNSNews.com that he repeatedly saw investigations that would have led directly to foreign agents stymied by the wall erected by Gorelick in her 1995 memo. "The Gorelick memo guidelines created a firewall that protected the [Clinton] administration" from the Justice Department's investigation into foreign campaign donations, Leitner said. Gorelick's previously classified memo became public when Attorney General John Ashcroft sought to defend the Bush administration in recent testimony before the commission studying the intelligence breakdowns in the months leading up to the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks. Among those listening to Ashcroft's testimony about the memo he had just released was Gorelick, herself a member of the 9/11 commission. "The simple fact of September 11th is this," Ashcroft told the commission. "We did not know an attack was coming because for nearly a decade our government had blinded itself to its enemies. Our agents were isolated by government-imposed walls." Another DoD official, who requested anonymity, explained in an interview with CNSNews.com that the People's Liberation Army "used front companies to buy U.S. defense high technology and influence in the U.S. government." In many cases, the source said, "the operatives were dealing directly with the White House." That type of intelligence might have been used in the prosecution of high-profile figures such as former Commerce Department official and Democratic National Committee fund raiser John Huang, as well as longtime Clinton associate Charles Yah Lin Trie, and ultimately might have led directly to Clinton and Gore, sources said. Bill, Al and Hillary Too According to congressional investigations, Huang and Trie maintained close relationships with Beijing after Clinton was elected in 1992 and especially as they became major fund raisers for Clinton's 1996 re-election campaign and the legal defense trust fund established for the president and first lady Hillary Clinton to fend off charges associated with the Whitewater controversy. "It was a classic spy network, nothing exotic about it," Leitner told CNSNews.com. "It included compromised public officials paid off with illegal campaign contributions." But Leitner said it was frustrating to see Huang and Trie eventually plea-bargain "for petty offenses instead of being investigated for espionage." Leitner testified five times before congressional committees attempting to get to the bottom of what ultimately became known as the China/DNC fund-raising scandal. The Clinton administration Justice Department, headed by Attorney General Janet Reno, also conducted an investigation, even though many people accused the department of having a conflict of interest. Chinese Weapons Development and Smuggling Leitner said one of the most important investigations hindered by the Gorelick memo involved a Chinese state-owned corporation's activities after it had purchased a McDonnell Douglas high-tech machine tools factory in Columbus, Ohio. The factory, known as Plant 85, had previously been used to manufacture the bodies of U.S. Air Force C-17 strategic transport planes and MX intercontinental ballistic missiles. In 1994, the China National Aero-Technology Import and Export Corp. (CATIC) offered to buy Plant 85 from the financially troubled McDonnell Douglass Corporation and relocate it to China where CATIC officials said it would become a civilian aircraft-production facility, according to court documents. The sale required a government export license, which Leitner was in charge of either approving or denying. Leitner denied the license, arguing that once the machine tools from Plant 85 were exported to the People's Republic of China, they would be used to produce missiles for China's People's Liberation Army as well as nations unfriendly to the United States. Leitner was eventually overruled, but according to court documents, within months of the plant being exported to China, U.S. officials learned that the sensitive machine tools had been diverted to a Chinese factory manufacturing Silkworm missiles. Leitner told CNSNews.com that he informed the federal prosecutor in the case that the CATIC license was approved over his objections because of "pressure from Vice President Gore." That testimony, however, was never heard in court. Reno Again A criminal investigation was launched in 1995, but Reno resisted calls from congressional Republicans to appoint an independent counsel in the case. Instead, she named career prosecutor Charles LaBella to head up the Justice Department's own task force investigating Clinton and the sources of the foreign contributions. LaBella acknowledged that the wall established by Gorelick was "cumbersome" to the investigation but that he was ultimately able to work around it. "Clearly there was a line between the criminal and the counter-intelligence side," he said. LaBella added that one of the Senate committees was frustrated because "briefings from intelligence didn't match up with the criminal investigations." After LaBella's work was completed, he recommended the appointment of a special prosecutor, an idea Reno again rejected. In the end, indicted suspects in the investigation, including CATIC and McDonnell Douglas, were able to plea bargain for lesser offenses. The plea bargains eliminated the need for Leitner to testify about the alleged "pressure" exercised by Gore. In another case that spanned the mid 1990s, U.S. Customs ran a sting operation against a Chinese-owned company known as Poly Technologies. The company was attempting to smuggle thousands of AK-47 automatic rifles into the U.S. Customs agents posed as buyers for the illegal weapons and the undercover operation eventually led to the indictment of five Chinese nationals. Senior Customs Field Agent Michael Goldsmith told CNSNews.com that "there is absolutely no doubt that Gorelick's memo "made things tighter and tighter" in "not having critical data available and not being able to use it." "Operation Dragonfire," the name of the sting operation, ended with the indicted suspects pleading guilty to less serious weapons charges. Gorelick's Alleged Conflict of Interest Gorelick, as a member of the 9/11 commission, is fighting the perception that she has a conflict of interest because the lack of intelligence cooperation between the FBI and the intelligence-gathering agencies has been widely cited as the reason for the U.S. government's inability to stop the attacks of Sept. 11. In his April 13 testimony before the commission, Ashcroft said the wall was "the single greatest structural cause for Sept. 11. Government erected this wall. Government buttressed this wall. And before September 11th, government was blinded by this wall," Ashcroft told the commission. Leitner went a step further. "What is disturbing is that that memo served to protect the administration from exposure in its dealings with the PRC and the unfortunate consequence may be the death of 3,000 Americans." Spokesmen for Gorelick and the commission did not respond to numerous requests from CNSNews.com for comment on this story. 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http://www.mediaresearch.org/press/1999/press19990409.asp "The Networks Have Moved Beyond 'Ignoring' China/Clinton Connection, They're Trying to Bury It." On NBC's Today Show, 'Beavergate' Trumps Chinagate ALEXANDRIA, Va. --- Media Research Center Chairman Brent Bozell heightened his criticism of the networks today, a day after the New York Times' startling revelations that Chinese spies stole secrets from a U.S. nuclear lab to improve Beijing's neutron bomb during President Clinton's watch. He accused them of no longer ignoring the story but of outright burying it. "The China/Clinton connection has come full circle," Bozell said. "The Clinton Administration tried to cover up this theft by Chinese spies at the same time they were receiving illegal foreign contributions from the chief of Chinese intelligence. By not mentioning these revelations, it appears as if the big networks are trying to bury it." Monday, Mr. Bozell chastised the national news networks for ignoring the Los Angeles Times news bombshell of this past Sunday, that the chief of Chinese military intelligence tried to give the Democratic Party $300,000 - the most direct link yet between the communist Chinese government and the Clinton-Gore re-election campaign. In an explosive front-page story yesterday, The New York Times' new revelations appear to contradict earlier White House statements that sensitive nuclear materials had not been stolen by Chinese spies during the Clinton Administration, but rather during previous administrations. While the networks began their nightly broadcasts with Kosovo-related stories, here is a quick sample of how incomplete their reports were on the breaking China/Clinton connection story ... CBS Evening News has not mentioned the fundraising scandal since it broke Sunday, nor did its broadcast last night mention the New York Times story. Without mentioning the New York Times, NBC Nightly News reported it had "confirmed" that the White House learned two years ago a Chinese spy passed along neutron bomb information, played a soundbite of President Clinton's denials (uncontested), and concluded its segment with the White House's denial. ABC's World News Tonight briefly mentioned both the nuclear secret theft and the fundraising scandal, but fell well short of providing comprehensive coverage. Fox News Channel ran the most comprehensive coverage. Its report tied together some of the best-known names in the fundraising scandal and linked current revelations about Chinese intelligence. Friday Morning News Shows -- 'Beavergate' Trumps Chinagate CBS's This Morning did not even mention China. NBC's Today Show did not mention illegal Chinese contributions at all and only briefing mentioned the Chinese spying issue, how Chinese Premier Zhu denied the spying charge and how he faces more questions on human rights. Today did ran a full story lasting 2:43 on the beavers eating the cherry trees in DC, devoting more than four times as much time to the beavers as to the China story. ABC's Good Morning America ran only two brief items during 7am and 8am news updates on how President Clinton and Premier Zhu had dinner last night and failed to reach any trade deal. Its broadcast did not mention illegal Chinese contributions or Chinese theft of nuclear secrets.
You've gone completely off your rocker. Enjoy the long slow slide into paranoia and insanity Joe. It'll be fun watching you go.
