Human guinea pigs... Who are the nazis again?

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  1. Nursey

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    A few years ago, I did a thread ( Know Thine Enemy #2 ) about the American government's use of it's own citizens as guinea pigs, testing all sorts of substances, sometimes to fatal effect, without the test subject's knowledge or consent. They even tested radiation on a group of mentally handicapped children, telling their parents that the children were part of an intelligence assessment or something. Well, for anyone naive enough to think that such attitudes are non-prevailant today, here is an eye-opener...


    New York's HIV experiment


    GUINEA PIG KIDS
    Tuesday, 30 November, 2004
    1930 GMT on BBC Two (UK)


    HIV positive children and their loved ones have few rights if they choose to battle with social work authorities in New York City.

    Jacklyn Hoerger's job was to treat children with HIV at a New York children's home.

    But nobody had told her that the drugs she was administering were experimental and highly toxic.

    "We were told that if they were vomiting, if they lost their ability to walk, if they were having diarrhoea, if they were dying, then all of this was because of their HIV infection."

    In fact it was the drugs that were making the children ill and the children had been enrolled on the secret trials without their relatives' or guardians' knowledge.

    As Jacklyn would later discover, those who tried to take the children off the drugs risked losing them into care.

    The BBC asked the Alliance for Human Research Protection about their view on the drug trials.

    Spokesperson Vera Sherav said: "They tested these highly experimental drugs. Why didn't they provide the children with the current best treatment? That's the question we have.

    "Why did they expose them to risk and pain, when they were helpless?

    "Would they have done those experiments with their own children? I doubt it."

    Power and authority

    When I first heard the story of the "guinea pig kids", I instinctively refused to believe that it could be happening in any civilised country, particularly the United States, where the propensity for legal action normally ensures a high level of protection.

    But that, as I was to discover, was central to the choice of location and subjects, because to be free in New York City, you need money.

    Over 23,000 of the city's children are either in foster care or independent homes run mostly by religious organisations on behalf of the local authorities and almost 99% are black or hispanic.

    Some of these kids come from "crack" mothers and have been infected with the HIV virus. For over a decade, this became the target group for experimentation involving cocktails of toxic drugs.

    Central to this story is the city's child welfare department, the Administration for Children's Services (ACS).

    The ACS, as it is known, was granted far-reaching powers in the 1990s by then-Republican Mayor Rudi Giuliani, after a particularly horrific child killing.

    Within the shortest of periods, literally thousands of children were being rounded up and placed in foster care.

    "They're essentially out of control," said family lawyer David Lansner. "I've had many ACS case workers tell me: 'We're ACS, we can do whatever we want' and they usually get away with it."

    Having taken children into care, the ACS was now, effectively, their parent and could do just about anything it wished with them.

    'Serious side-effects'

    One of the homes to which HIV positive children were taken was the Incarnation Children's Center, a large, expensively refurbished red-bricked building set back from the sidewalk in a busy Harlem street.

    It is owned by the Catholic church and when we attempted to talk to officials at Incarnation we were referred to an equally expensive Manhattan public relations company, which then refused to comment on activities within the home.

    Hardly surprising, when we already knew that highly controversial and secretive drug experiments had been conducted on orphans and foster children as young as three months old.

    We asked Dr David Rasnick, visiting scholar at the University of Berkeley, for his opinion on some of the experiments.

    He said: "We're talking about serious, serious side-effects. These children are going to be absolutely miserable. They're going to have cramps, diarrhoea and their joints are going to swell up. They're going to roll around the ground and you can't touch them."

    He went on to describe some of the drugs - supplied by major drug manufacturers including Glaxo SmithKline - as "lethal".

    When approached by the BBC, Glaxo SmithKline said such trials must have stringent standards and be conducted strictly in accordance with local regulations.

    Battle of wills

    At Incarnation, if a child refused to take the medicines offered, he or she was force-fed through a peg-tube inserted into the stomach.

    Critics of the trials say children should have been volunteered to test drugs by their parents.

    When Jacklyn Hoerger later fostered two children from the home where she used to work with a view to adopting them, she discovered just how powerful the ACS was.

    "It was a Saturday morning and they had come a few times unannounced," she said. "So when I opened the door I invited them in and they said that this wasn't a happy visit. At that point they told me that they were taking the children away. I was in shock."

    Jacklyn, a trained paediatric nurse, had taken the fatal step of taking the children off the drugs, which had resulted in an immediate boost to their health and happiness.

    As a result she was branded a child abuser in court. She has not been allowed to see the children since.

    In the film Guinea Pig Kids, we follow Jacklyn's story and that of other parents or guardians who fear for the lives of their loved ones.

    We talk to a child who spent years on drugs programmes which made them and their friends ill, and we discover that Incarnation is not an isolated case. The experiments continue to be carried out on the poor children of New York City.

    Guinea Pig Kids was broadcast on Tuesday, 30 November, 2004, at 1930 GMT on BBC Two (UK).
     
  2. Robman97

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    It wouldn't suprise me. I don't think it is a partisan issue, I could see either party doing that shit. I joined the Navy back in '98 and was astonished at how many shots and oral vaccines they gave us, this was all while still in basic training no less. For all I know they were testing shit on us. I wouldn't doubt it either if the Gulf War Syndrome was caused by something the Government was trying on guys while out in the field. Dubya you said you served in the gulf right? You don't have any of the same sypmtoms our Boys here have do ya? Think about it what better cover than to say, " Sorry you Boys must have got gassed by something Sadam had." Instead of," well guys we had this new nerve gas you see and we wanted to try it out so...." Like I said before, this isn't a party issue, the US Government doesn't care about its population. It has enough to keep things running.
     
  3. Robman97

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    Fyi I was medically Discharged in my 3rd week there. Kinda glad that I was now 8)
     
  4. Dubya 2.0

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    I don't think so, we where given the full 'cocktail' before we flew out and for 2 - 3 weeks after I (we all) felt like shit, but this was put down to the anti-virals doing their ' thing'.

    I wasn't exposed to the uranium tipped shells, which is what most of the infantry lads are blaming for their illnesses as far as I am aware.
     
  5. Nursey

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    Read this all.

    Military men are just dumb stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy.” - Henry Kissinger, quoted in “Kiss the Boys Goodbye: How the United States Betrayed Its Own POW’s in Vietnam”

    [size=18px]Depleted uranium: Dirty bombs, dirty missiles, dirty bullets[/size]

    A death sentence here and abroad

    Vietnam was a chemical war for oil, permanently contaminating large regions and countries downriver with Agent Orange, and environmentally the most devastating war in world history. But since 1991, the U.S. has staged four nuclear wars using depleted uranium weaponry, which, like Agent Orange, meets the U.S. government definition of Weapons of Mass Destruction. Vast regions in the Middle East and Central Asia have been permanently contaminated with radiation.

    And what about our soldiers? Terry Jemison of the Department of Veterans Affairs reported this week to the American Free Press that “Gulf-era veterans” now on medical disability since 1991 number 518,739, with only 7,035 reported wounded in Iraq in that same 14-year period.

    This week the American Free Press dropped a “dirty bomb” on the Pentagon by reporting that eight out of 20 men who served in one unit in the 2003 U.S. military offensive in Iraq now have malignancies. That means that 40 percent of the soldiers in that unit have developed malignancies in just 16 months.
    Since these soldiers were exposed to vaccines and depleted uranium (DU) only, this is strong evidence for researchers and scientists working on this issue, that DU is the definitive cause of Gulf War Syndrome. Vaccines are not known to cause cancer. One of the first published researchers on Gulf War Syndrome, who also served in 1991 in Iraq, Dr. Andras Korényi-Both, is in agreement with Barbara Goodno from the Department of Defense’s Deployment Health Support Directorate, that in this war soldiers were not exposed to chemicals, pesticides, bioagents or other suspect causes this time to confuse the issue.

    This powerful new evidence is blowing holes in the cover-up perpetrated by the Pentagon and three presidential administrations ever since DU was first used in 1991 in the Persian Gulf War. Fourteen years after the introduction of DU on the battlefield in 1991, the long-term effects have revealed that DU is a death sentence and very nasty stuff.

    Scientists studying the biological effects of uranium in the 1960s reported that it targets the DNA. Marion Fulk, a nuclear physical chemist retired from the Livermore Nuclear Weapons Lab and formerly involved with the Manhattan Project, interprets the new and rapid malignancies in soldiers from the 2003 war as “spectacular … and a matter of concern.”

    This evidence shows that of the three effects which DU has on biological systems - radiation, chemical and particulate – the particulate effect from nano-size particles is the most dominant one immediately after exposure and targets the Master Code in the DNA. This is bad news, but it explains why DU causes a myriad of diseases which are difficult to define.

    In simple words, DU “trashes the body.” When asked if the main purpose for using it was for destroying things and killing people, Fulk was more specific: “I would say that it is the perfect weapon for killing lots of people.”

    Soldiers developing malignancies so quickly since 2003 can be expected to develop multiple cancers from independent causes. This phenomenon has been reported by doctors in hospitals treating civilians following NATO bombing with DU in Yugoslavia in 1998-1999 and the U.S. military invasion of Iraq using DU for the first time in 1991. Medical experts report that this phenomenon of multiple malignancies from unrelated causes has been unknown until now and is a new syndrome associated with internal DU exposure.

    Just 467 U.S. personnel were wounded in the three-week Persian Gulf War in 1990-1991. Out of 580,400 soldiers who served in Gulf War I, 11,000 are dead, and by 2000 there were 325,000 on permanent medical disability. This astounding number of disabled vets means that a decade later, 56 percent of those soldiers who served now have medical problems.

    The number of disabled vets reported up to 2000 has been increasing by 43,000 every year. Brad Flohr of the Department of Veterans Affairs told American Free Press that he believes there are more disabled vets now than even after World War II.

    They brought it home

    Not only were soldiers exposed to DU on and off the battlefields, but they brought it home. DU in the semen of soldiers internally contaminated their wives, partners and girlfriends. Tragically, some women in their 20s and 30s who were sexual partners of exposed soldiers developed endometriosis and were forced to have hysterectomies because of health problems.

    In a group of 251 soldiers from a study group in Mississippi who had all had normal babies before the Gulf War, 67 percent of their post-war babies were born with severe birth defects. They were born with missing legs, arms, organs or eyes or had immune system and blood diseases. In some veterans’ families now, the only normal or healthy members of the family are the children born before the war.

    The Department of Veterans Affairs has stated that they do not keep records of birth defects occurring in families of veterans.

    How did they hide it?

    Before a new weapons system can be used, it must be fully tested. The blueprint for depleted uranium weapons is a 1943 declassified document from the Manhattan Project.

    Harvard President and physicist James B. Conant, who developed poison gas in World War I, was brought into the Manhattan Project by the father of presidential candidate John Kerry. Kerry’s father served at a high level in the Manhattan Project and was a CIA agent.

    Conant was chair of the S-1 Poison Gas Committee, which recommended developing poison gas weapons from the radioactive trash of the atomic bomb project in World War II. At that time, it was known that radioactive materials dispersed in bombs from the air, from land vehicles or on the battlefield produced very fine radioactive dust which would penetrate all protective clothing, any gas mask or filter or the skin. By contaminating the lungs and blood, it could kill or cause illness very quickly.

    They also recommended it as a permanent terrain contaminant, which could be used to destroy populations by contaminating water supplies and agricultural land with the radioactive dust.

    The first DU weapons system was developed for the Navy in 1968, and DU weapons were given to and used by Israel in 1973 under U.S. supervision in the Yom Kippur war against the Arabs.

    The Phalanx weapons system, using DU, was tested on the USS Bigelow out of Hunters Point Naval Shipyard in 1977, and DU weapons have been sold by the U.S. to 29 countries.

    Military research report summaries detail the testing of DU from 1974-1999 at military testing grounds, bombing and gunnery ranges and at civilian labs under contract. Today 42 states are contaminated with DU from manufacture, testing and deployment.

    Women living around these facilities have reported increases in endometriosis, birth defects in babies, leukemia in children and cancers and other diseases in adults. Thousands of tons of DU weapons tested for decades by the Navy on four bombing and gunnery ranges around Fallon, Nevada, is no doubt the cause of the fastest growing leukemia cluster in the U.S. over the past decade. The military denies that DU is the cause.

    The medical profession has been active in the cover-up - just as they were in hiding the effects from the American public - of low level radiation from atmospheric testing and nuclear power plants. A medical doctor in Northern California reported being trained by the Pentagon with other doctors, months before the 2003 war started, to diagnose and treat soldiers returning from the 2003 war for mental problems only.

    Medical professionals in hospitals and facilities treating returning soldiers were threatened with $10,000 fines if they talked about the soldiers or their medical problems. They were also threatened with jail.

    Reporters have also been prevented access to more than 14,000 medically evacuated soldiers flown nightly since the 2003 war in C-150s from Germany who are brought to Walter Reed Hospital near Washington, D.C.

    Dr. Robert Gould, former president of the Bay Area chapter of Physicians for Social Responsibility (PSR), has contacted three medical doctors since February 2004, after I had been invited to speak about DU. Dr. Katharine Thomasson, president of the Oregon chapter of the PSR, informed me that Dr. Gould had contacted her and tried to convince her to cancel her invitation for me to speak about DU at Portland State University on April 12. Although I was able to do a presentation, Dr. Thomasson told me I could only talk about DU in Oregon “and nothing overseas … nothing political.”

    Dr. Gould also contacted and discouraged Dr. Ross Wilcox in Toronto, Canada, from inviting me to speak to Physicians for Global Survival (PGS), the Canadian equivalent of PSR, several months later. When that didn’t work, he contacted Dr. Allan Connoly, the Canadian national president of PGS, who was able to cancel my invitation and nearly succeeded in preventing Dr. Wilcox, his own member, from showing photos and presenting details on civilians suffering from DU exposure and cancer provided to him by doctors in southern Iraq.

    Dr. Janette Sherman, a former and long-standing member of PSR, reported that she finally quit some time after being invited to lunch by a new PSR executive administrator. After the woman had pumped Dr. Sherman for information all through lunch about her position on key issues, the woman informed Dr. Sherman that her last job had been with the CIA.

    How was the truth about DU hidden from military personnel serving in successive DU wars? Before his tragic death, Sen. Paul Wellstone informed Joyce Riley, R.N., B.S.N., executive director of the American Gulf War Veterans Association, that 95 percent of Gulf War veterans had been recycled out of the military by 1995. Any of those continuing in military service were isolated from each other, preventing critical information being transferred to new troops. The “next DU war” had already been planned, and those planning it wanted “no skunk at the garden party.”

    The US has a dirty (DU) little (CIA) secret

    A new book just published at the American Free Press by Michael Collins Piper, “The High Priests of War: The Secret History of How America’s Neo-Conservative Trotskyites Came to Power and Orchestrated the War Against Iraq as the First Step in Their Drive for Global Empire,” details the early plans for a war against the Arab world by Henry Kissinger and the neo-cons in the late 1960s and early 1970s. That just happens to coincide with getting the DU “show on the road” and the oil crisis in the Middle East, which caused concern not only to President Nixon. The British had been plotting and scheming for control of the oil in Iraq for decades since first using poison gas on the Iraqis and Kurds in 1912.

    The book details the creation of the neo-cons by their “godfather” and Trotsky lover Irving Kristol, who pushed for a “war against terrorism” long before 9/11 and was lavishly funded for years by the CIA. His son, William Kristol, is one of the most influential men in the United States.

    Both are public relations men for the Israeli lobby’s neo-conservative network, with strong ties to Rupert Murdoch. Kissinger also has ties to this network and the Carlyle Group, who, one could say, have facilitated these omnicidal wars beginning from the time former President Bush took office. It would be easy to say that we are recycling World Wars I and II, with the same faces.

    When I asked Vietnam Special Ops Green Beret Capt. John McCarthy, who could have devised this omnicidal plan to use DU to destroy the genetic code and genetic future of large populations of Arabs and Moslems in the Middle East and Central Asia - just coincidentally the areas where most of the world’s oil deposits are located - he replied: “It has all the handprints of Henry Kissinger.”

    In Zbignew Brzezinski’s book “The Grand Chessboard: American Primacy and Its Geostrategic Imperatives,” the map of the Eurasian chessboard includes four regions strategic to U.S. foreign policy. The “South” region corresponds precisely to the regions now contaminated permanently with radiation from U.S. bombs, missiles and bullets made with thousands of tons of DU.

    A Japanese professor, Dr. K. Yagasaki, has calculated that 800 tons of DU is the atomicity equivalent of 83,000 Nagasaki bombs. The U.S. has used more DU since 1991 than the atomicity equivalent of 400,000 Nagasaki bombs. Four nuclear wars indeed, and 10 times the amount of radiation released into the atmosphere from atmospheric testing!

    No wonder our soldiers, their families and the people of the Middle East, Yugoslavia and Central Asia are sick. But as Henry Kissinger said after Vietnam when our soldiers came home ill from Agent Orange, “Military men are just dumb stupid animals to be used for foreign policy.”

    Unfortunately, more and more of those soldiers are men and women with brown skin. And unfortunately, the DU radioactive dust will be carried around the world and deposited in our environments just as the “smog of war” from the 1991 Gulf War was found in deposits in South America, the Himalayas and Hawaii.

    In June 2003, the World Health Organization announced in a press release that global cancer rates will increase 50 percent by 2020. What else do they know that they aren’t telling us? I know that depleted uranium is a death sentence … for all of us. We will all die in silent ways.

    To learn more

    Sources used in this story that readers are encouraged to consult:

    American Free Press four-part series on DU by

    Christopher Bollyn.

    Part I: "Depleted Uranium: U.S. Commits War Crime

    Against Iraq, Humanity,"

    http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/depleted_uranium.html

    Part II: "Cancer Epidemic Caused by U.S. WMD: MD Says

    Depleted Uranium Definitively

    http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/cancer_epidemic_.html

    Part III: "DU Syndrome Stricken Vets Denied Care:

    Pentagon Hides DU Dangers to Deny Medical Care to

    Vets",

    http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/du_syndrome.html

    Part IV: "Pentagon Brass Suppresses Truth About Toxic

    Weapons: Poisonous Uranium Munitions Threaten World",

    http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/pentagon_brass.html



    August 2004 World Affairs Journal. Leuren Moret:

    "Depleted Uranium: The Trojan Horse of Nuclear War,"

    http://www.mindfully.org/Nucs/2004/DU-Trojan-Horse1jul04.htm



    August 2004 Coastal Post Online. Carol Sterrit: "Marin

    Depleted Uranium Resolution Heats Up - GI's Will Come

    Home To A Slow Death,"

    http://www.coastalpost.com/04/08/01.htm



    World Depleted Uranium Weapons Conference, Hamburg,

    Germany, October 16-19, 2004:

    http://www.uraniumweaponsconference.de/speakers.htm



    International Criminal Tribunal for Afghanistan.

    Written opinion of Judge Niloufer Baghwat:

    http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2004/Afghanistan-Criminal-Tribunal10mar0

    4.htm



    "Discounted Casualties: The Human Cost of Nuclear War"

    by Akira Tashiro, foreword by Leuren Moret,

    http://www.chugoku-np.co.jp/abom/uran/index_e.html

    Leuren Moret is a geoscientist who has worked around the world on radiation issues, educating citizens, the media, members of parliaments and Congress and other officials. She became a whistleblower in 1991 at the Livermore Nuclear Weapons Lab after experiencing major science fraud on the Yucca Mountain Project. An environmental commissioner in the City of Berkeley, she can be reached at leurenmoret@yahoo.com.
     
  6. Nursey

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    I forgot to link back to the article's source

    Here's another: [size=18px]Kissinger, Eugenics And Depopulation[/size] By Leuren Moret

    Dr. Henry Kissinger, who wrote: "Depopulation should be the highest priority of U.S. foreign policy towards the Third World."

    Research on population control, preventing future births, is now being carried out secretly by biotech companies. Dr. Ignacio Chapela, a University of California microbiologist, discovered that wild corn in remote parts of Mexico is contaminated with lab altered DNA. That discovery made him a threat to the biotech industry.

    Chapela was denied tenure at UC Berkeley when he reported this to the scientific community, despite the embarrassing discovery that UC Chancellor Berdahl, who was denying him tenure, was getting large cash payments - $40,000 per year - from the LAM Research Corp. in Plano, Texas.

    Berdahl served as president of Texas A&M University before coming to Berkeley. During a presentation about his case, Chapela revealed that a spermicidal corn developed by a U.S. company is now being tested in Mexico. Males who unknowingly eat the corn produce non-viable sperm and are unable to reproduce.

    Depopulation, also known as eugenics, is quite another thing and was proposed under the Nazis during World War II. It is the deliberate killing off of large segments of living populations and was proposed for Third World countries under President Carter's administration by the National Security Council's Ad Hoc Group on Population Policy.

    National Security Memo 200, dated April 24, 1974, and titled "Implications of world wide population growth for U.S. security & overseas interests," says:

    "Dr. Henry Kissinger proposed in his memorandum to the NSC that "depopulation should be the highest priority of U.S. foreign policy towards the Third World." He quoted reasons of national security, and because `(t)he U.S. economy will require large and increasing amounts of minerals from abroad, especially from less-developed countries ... Wherever a lessening of population can increase the prospects for such stability, population policy becomes relevant to resources, supplies and to the economic interests of U.S.

    Depopulation policy became the top priority under the NSC agenda, Club of Rome and U.S. policymakers like Gen. Alexander Haig, Cyrus Vance, Ed Muskie and Kissinger. According to an NSC spokesman at the time, the United States shared the view of former World Bank President Robert McNamara that the "population crisis" is a greater threat to U.S. national security interests than nuclear annihilation.In 1975, Henry Kissinger established a policy-planning group in the U.S. State Department's Office of Population Affairs. The depopulation "GLOBAL 2000" document for President Jimmy Carter was prepared.

    It is no surprise that this policy was established under President Carter with help from Kissinger and Brzezinski - all with ties to David Rockefeller. The Bush family, the Harriman family - the Wall Street business partners of Bush in financing Hitler - and the Rockefeller family are the elite of the American eugenics movement. Even Prince Philip of Britain, a member of the Bilderberg Group, is in favor of depopulation:

    "If I were reincarnated I would wish to be returned to earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels" (Prince Philip Duke of Edinburgh, leader of the World Wildlife Fund, quoted in "Are You Ready for Our New Age Future?" Insiders Report, American Policy Center, December 1995).

    Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld has been proposing, funding and building Bio-Weapons Level 3 and Level 4 labs at many places around the U.S. even on university campuses and in densely populated urban locations. In a Bio-Weapons Level 4 facility, a single bacteria or virus is lethal. Bio-Weapons Level 4 is the highest level legally allowed in the continental U.S.

    For what purpose are these labs being developed, and who will make the decisions on where bio-weapons created in these facilities will be used and on whom? More than 20 world-class microbiologists have been murdered since 2002, mostly in the U.S. and the UK. Nearly all were working on development of ethnic-specific bio-weapons (see Smart Dust, Roboflies &).

    Citizens around the U.S. are frantically filing lawsuits to stop these labs on campuses and in communities where they live. Despite the opposition of residents living near UC Davis, where a Bio-Weapons Level 4 lab was planned, it had the support of the towns mayor.

    She suddenly reversed her position after a monkey escaped from a high security primate facility on the campus where the bio-weapons lab was proposed. Residents claimed that if UC Davis could not keep monkeys from escaping from their cages, they certainly could not guarantee that a single virus or bacteria would not escape from a test tube. The AWOL monkey killed the project (see Smart Dust, Roboflies&).

    Population is a political problem. The extreme secrecy surrounding the takeover of nuclear weapons, NASA and the space program and the development of numerous bio-weapons labs is a threat to civil society, especially in the hands of the military and corporations.

    The fascist application of all three of these programs can be used to achieve established U.S. government depopulation policy goals, which may eliminate 2 billion of the worlds existing population through war, famine, disease and any other methods necessary.

    Two excellent examples of existing U.S. depopulation policy are, first, the long-term impact on the civilian population from Agent Orange in Vietnam, where the Rockefellers built oil refineries and aluminum plants during the Vietnam War. The second is the permanent contamination of the Middle East and Central Asia with depleted uranium, which, unfortunately, will destroy the genetic future of the populations living in those regions and will also have a global effect already reflected in increases in infant mortality reported in the U.S., Europe, and the UK.
     
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    Did it again. The image is the link...
     
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    The Real Sephardic Holocaust: Zionism from the Standpoint of its Jewish Victims



    Documentary Review: “The Ringworm Children” (2004)



    What if I were to tell you that the Arab government of Morocco in the 1950s forced 100,000 Jewish children to be rounded up and taken to a medical facility where they were given radiation treatments of 350 RAD for the ostensible treatment of ringworm?



    What would you do?



    What would the outcry be in the Jewish community?



    Would there be a feeding frenzy in the Jewish media and in the general media such as the New York Times which continues to feed the Jewish beast of the Holocaust on a regular basis?



    What would be said about Arabs and their incipient Anti-Semitism?



    To put this in some current perspective, we have recently learned that a new committee has been formed to link the 1941 riots in Baghdad known in Arabic as the FARHUD to the Nazi Holocaust. Steps are now underway to take an isolated if tragic event in Arab Jewish history where the total number of Jewish deaths was no more than 300 if that much and turn that event into a HOLOCAUST. This committee is bent on taking the FARHUD and making it a mandatory part of the Holocaust curriculum in the US. It is clear that the concern with demonizing the Arabs has become a malignant obsession for Arab Jews who wish to curry favor with the Ashkenazi establishment and serve the Israeli HASBARAH campaign that is such a crucial part of Jewish self-knowledge at present.



    How quickly do you think would word spread in the media of the near-homicidal treatment of 100,000 Jewish children by their Arab hosts?

    Would such a revelation make the FRONT PAGE of every newspaper in the US and Europe – and ISRAEL?



    You bet.



    So why have we not heard about these 100,000 Jewish victims of radiation treatment?



    The problem is that the radiation treatments were not administered by the Moroccans or any other ARAB government – these lethal treatments were administered by the ISRAELI DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH!



    “The Ringworm Children” is a brutal testament to the continued ASHKENAZI RACISM that has made the sojourn of the Sephardim in Israel one of the most shameful episodes in the history of our people.



    The story is simple if brutal: Many of the Ashkenazi Zionist officials were conflicted about immigration of Jews from the Arab world – particularly those from North Africa. Upon arrival to the newly created State in the 1950s, Sephardic Jews were subjected to various forms of official and social discrimination. They were sent to ma’abarot, transit camps for immigrants that became part of the ongoing debilitation of what were then called Benei Edot ha-Mizrah – the Oriental communities. To my knowledge the largest public scandal – outside of the institutionalized racism of the Zionist founders – involving the Sephardic immigrants was the famous case of the YEMENITE BABIES – a scandal that involved the kidnapping of Yemenite children by the medical authorities that provided the children for sale to Ashkenazi parents in Israel and Europe while their parents would be given death certificates and no corpses to bury. The scandal of the YEMENITE BABIES has been subject to years of hearings and committees but the real truth remains to be publicly uncovered.



    The recent revelations of the GAZEZET scandal make the YEMENITE BABIES issue pale in comparison. GAZEZET is the Hebrew term for ringworm.



    Dr. Chaim Sheba, the first Surgeon General of Israel and an avowed racist who believed in the principles of using Eugenics as a social tool, was loath to accept the immigration from North Africa. Sheba demanded as a health official that any immigrants with family members who had health problems be barred from moving to Israel. And when the first immigrants came from Morocco, he demanded that they be treated for ringworm.



    As this scandal revolves around ringworm, a now easily treatable skin disease that is not very well known today, I quote from the American Cancer Society’s assessment of the disease’s threat in the period under question:

    The only established environmental risk factor for brain tumors is radiation. Before the risks of radiation were recognized, children with ringworm of the scalp (a fungal infection) often received low-dose radiation therapy, which substantially increased their risk of brain tumors in later life.

    As the experts make clear in the film, ringworm was a common childhood ailment along the lines of lice. The ringworm was caused by a communicable fungus that created irritations of the scalp. Old world treatments included unguents and vinegar. The disease though communicable was not fatal and would eventually go away of its own accord.



    Radiation treatments were sadly more dangerous than the disease itself.



    Dr. Sheba, according to his writings, became obsessed with this ringworm issue in regard to the North African immigrants. In his role as a public health minister he demanded that all North African children be sent to health centers to receive RADIATION THERAPY.



    As the film points out, the regimen of forced radiation based on eugenics was on the wane in the US after the revelations of Nazi experiments in the Concentration Camps and the vast scientific evidence from Japan after the nuclear devastation in 1945. The scientific community by 1952 was well aware of the dangers of radiation and the short and long-term impact of this type of treatment on individuals – especially children. Dozens of lawsuits were being settled in the US courts with compensatory damages being awarded to the victims of these cruel experiments.



    This did not deter Dr. Chaim Sheba – the Josef Mengele of Israel.



    He went to the US on a fundraising mission to get radiation machines – X-Ray machines from a company named Picker that continues to do business in Israel – and the funds to administer a mass program of radiation of these Sephardic children.



    According to the relevant documentation the 1948-1955 budget of the radiation program was 300,000,000 Israeli Pounds. The entire budget of the Israeli Health Ministry for the same period was 60,000,000 Pounds – the 300,000,000 figure was more than the ENTIRE BUDGET for the same period.



    Where did all the money come from to administer this evil project?



    The film sets out the tantalizing but unsubstantiated idea that the Israeli government took money from the US government which was interested in continuing its medical research through experimentation, but could not legally do so. Israel, a poor and fragile young country, would be a perfect place to conduct these experiments. This sense of experimentation fit in well with the Ashkenazi Zionist establishment’s racist policies and attitudes towards Sephardim. Sheba merely acted on the racist value system of the Ashkenazi establishment in setting out his eugenics program to deal with the GAZEZET.



    In “The Ringworm Children” we see how Sheba was able to conduct his evil machinations. With the obvious complicity of the medical community, health professionals and political figures, Sheba forced over 100,000 Sephardic children into various medical centers throughout the country to undergo radiation treatments that were in the range of 350 RAD per application – and many of the victims were given repeated applications. According to the eyewitness testimony presented by victims in the film, no precautionary measures were undertaken – no screens or special clothing to protect the children. This policy included having no health professional in the room while the radiation was being administered – as those workers knew the dangers of such massive doses of radiation – in the realm of HIROSHIMA-like numbers. Parents of the children were told that their children were being taken on a day trip – and were charged for the trip!



    Hundreds of doctors and nurses conducted these treatments under the auspices of the Israel National Socialized Health system and yet the records of these treatments have disappeared and according to the film remain unavailable to the victims – many of whom continue to suffer with brain tumors, cancers, epilepsy, sterility, cerebral palsy and other nefarious and debilitating diseases.



    In 1994, a committee was formed to bring this issue to the attention of the Israeli government and legal apparatus. A swirl of lawsuits and actions were undertaken with a stonewalling on the part of the Israeli establishment. Experts presented by the government were connected to the Health Establishment including Professor Baruch Modan who seemed to have held the files of many of the victims. Modan died of a heart attack while the campaign was going on – he appears in the film before his death and at a town hall meeting provides the victims with no substantial information on his knowledge and the mass of materials that he had in his possession from the early 1960s. The film implies that Modan may well have had knowledge of secret dealings between the US and Israeli governments.



    There is little question that the dangers of radiation therapy were known at the time of the Sheba applications. In 1952 the International Atomic Commission had presented guidelines for the application of radiation treatment which recommended a one-time dosage of no more than .3 RAD while Sheba had ordered dosages – sometimes multiple – of 350 RAD!



    Sheba is a criminal of Mengele-like proportions – of this there is no doubt. All those who participated in the execution of the program were also guilty of serious malfeasance. Those who have continued to cover this up for the government and legal institutions of Israel – many of them are actually interviewed in the film – are also indirectly responsible for crimes against the Sephardic victims of this barbarity on the part of the Ashkenazi Zionists.



    There are a number of issues that emerge from the film:



    · There is the foundational and perpetual anti-Sephardi racism that permeates the Ashkenazi community – in the West and in Israel. Such racism has allowed the plight of the GAZEZET victims to fester with no public outcry or even a mention in the American media.

    · The criminal sense of racial superiority that enabled this to happen is a basic part of the Zionist phenomenon. If this is what Ashkenazim do to their fellow JEWS, what won’t they scruple to do to NON-JEWS?

    · What of justice for the victims? There is the issue of full disclosure of the medical files that might save the lives of those who have been lucky enough to survive this cruelty. And then there is the issue of full adjudication of claims and compensation for the victims and their families.

    · How is it possible that a prestigious hospital complex is named after Chaim Sheba? Should not a public campaign to remove his name from the hospital be created?

    · And finally, what of the children and grandchildren of the victims who are now dealing with a truly genetic catastrophe of the highest proportion. Ironically, by asserting that Sephardim were a (eu)gene(t)ic danger to the Ashkenazim of Israel when they were nothing of the sort, the racist Sheba did in fact create genetic health issues for many generations of Sephardic Jews in Israel.



    As any politically-aware Sephardi knows, the criterion for assessing Ashkenazi culpability in all matters of malfeasance is extremely high – so high that many of the victims are shown in the film as being completely amazed by the standards that were demanded of the victims to prove their claims. Such is the COMPLETE OPPOSITE of the standards that have been set for claimants of Nazi abuse. We can recall no setting of any STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS for Holocaust claims while such limitations are placed on the GAZEZET victims.



    Ashkenazim do not hold themselves to the same standards when they are accused of being the perpetrators of criminal activity as they do for those who they claim have committed crimes against them!



    So while we sit here watching the FARHUD committee of foolhardy and naive Sephardic Jews who are more Ashkenazi than Sephardi, the matter of the GAZEZET remains a closed book to the American Jews and a nightmare for those Sephardim in Israel who must feel that no one cares about them at all As they watch the repeated claims of the Holocaust survivors fill the pages of the US and European media and the ongoing schnorring and infighting between Jewish groups to get the HOLO-CASH from Germany, Switzerland and the rest, these poor and sick Sephardim have no one of influence to help them make their case.



    Since “The Ringworm Children” was aired by Israel’s Channel 10 in August 2004 not one single article has come out in the US media – the articles by Aryeh Dayan in Haaretz and the controversial Barry Chamish review, both of which were included in our Sephardic Heritage Update, were printed in Israeli publications – the SHU being the only Sephardic journal in the WORLD that continues to advocate on behalf of Sephardic rights and justice for the Sephardim. The film is now being screened in the US by LINK TV, a small and relatively obscure non-profit San Francisco-based group of radical hippie-types who are concerned with social justice for Third World peoples. The station is not carried by any US cable systems and no announcement of the screenings has been made in any US media outlet.



    The question you the reader must ask yourself is,



    WHY IS SUCH A STATE OF AFFAIRS ACCEPTABLE TO YOU?



    · How long must we accept the depredations and the brutal racism of the ASHKENAZIM that is reflected by the official organs of the Jewish world – and reinforced by the common accusation from Ashkenazim that such RACISM DOES NOT EVEN EXIST.

    · How long must I be told by Ashkenazim and Uncle Tom Sephardim that I am myself a racist and that I am creating unneeded divisiveness in a Jewish community looking for POSITIVE ways to create a healthy and vibrant society?

    · How many cancellations have I received on my newsletter e-mail list from ASHKENAZI RACISTS who have blithely and with great pretense and arrogance served to demonize me for my writings and my social activism?

    · How much have I personally and professionally been threatened – by friends and enemies alike – and called upon to – as they tell me – LAY OFF THE ZIONISM?



    I am here to say that after we all take the time to understand and internalize the full scope of what happened to the GAZEZET victims – all 100,000 of them – we will all be able to more clearly see ASHKENAZI RACISM for what it is and be free to do something about it.



    Ashkenazim have wisely formed a unified front to protect their communal interests. We see advocacy groups popping up each and every day to deal with issues that trouble that community. But when dealing with JUSTICE FOR SEPHARDIM we have ZERO – NOTHING to help our own people.



    “The Ringworm Children” is a film that is brilliantly executed and fully realized. It is a masterpiece of social activism that tells a story that is at the very existential and political core of the Zionist project and the massive wrongs and injustices that it has wrought against people of Middle Eastern extraction.



    As Sephardim we must get our heads out of the proverbial sand and DO SOMETHING to protect our brothers and our communal interests.



    We must stop demonizing our real leaders and activists and finally accept that we need to respond in a forceful way to the Ashkenazim who have done all this to us.
     
  9. smurfslappa

    smurfslappa New Member

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    It don't matter, they got all the information they needed out of all the tests they did. They're ready to deploy their news weapons on the unsuspecting victims, and say it was the terrorists and mother nature. You can't kick mother nature's ass, but all that ass kicking she did on you will make you all the more desperate to kick some terrorist in the tits.
     
  11. MEDICVET

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    medical experiments upon unwilling victims..tell me it ain't so!!!

    signed,

    a desert storm vet with GWS...who has spoken with far too many vets in all my VA visits with those who were in Nevada and Vietnam..

    and the experiments continue..

    Any modern technological nation is currently conducting their own tuskegee experiments, and the victims are whoever is convienient at that time..of that I have no doubt.
     
  12. DangerousDan

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    Article doesn't mean much without saying what the drug does or was hoped to do and what happens if the kids don't get the drug. Very sloppy jounalism.
     
  13. diogenes

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    dan has a point, without tying everything together you just have a hollow conspiracy theory. Gulf War Syndrome, many sufferers also have had lymphoma, has been tied strongly enough to DU rounds. Thimerosal and autism have strong links. What your proposing though is kind of guess work. There's too much you have to assume for the link to be valid.
     
  14. Nursey

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    This is a BBC news article about a documentary that was to be aired, not a detailed medical paper on the subject. And though the article itself doesn't mention which exact drugs were being tested, i'd imagine the documentary would go into greater detail, as the doctor who was consulted for it had enough information to be able to make this comment...
    The main points are:

    1. The drugs were 'highly experimental'.
    2. They weren't the best treatment available.
    3. They were tested on children without their parents/guardian's knowledge or consent.


    What needs to be assumed? It seems pretty straightforward to me. And anyway, the BBC has certain standards to maintain, they aren't prone to doing serious documentaries based on claims so flimsy as to amount to nothing more than 'hollow conspiracy theories'.
     

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