For those who don't live in a candy coated world (where 'respectable' countries behave in a civilised and moral way), this is worth reading... How Britain created Ulster's murder gangs Since the Sunday Herald was founded in 1999, it has led the way in exposing the “dirty war” in Northern Ireland. Today, we report on the most shocking revelations to date. Our investigations show that far from merely “turning” terrorists to work for the state, British military intelligency actually created loyalist murder gangs to operate as proxy assassins. They even cleared areas in which the gangs were operating of police and army, to allow them to carry out their hits and escape. ON MONDAY, the world was stunned by the release of a report by Nuala O'Loan, the police ombudsman for Northern Ireland, which stated that Special Branch officers in Belfast had "colluded" with loyalist terrorists working for the British state as informers. According to O'Loan, police failed to stop these paramilitary gangs, part of the Ulster Volunteer Force (UVF) from killing an estimated 15 people in the 1990s. While this was seized upon by republicans as proof that security forces had aided a loyalist campaign of sectarian assassination, in reality O'Loan's findings barely scratched the surface of a 30-year history of criminality and murder orchestrated by the British army and the Ulster police.
The recent blaringly obvious popularity of improvising proxy terrorism as an asset of which benefits can be reaped without any risk of political retribution is alarming. This can only be achieved in a democracy given the proper or better yet not so proper media coverage. As for the non-democratic states well who cares there what the people think. So there is no retribution anyways. As for the whole Catholic –vs- Protestant thing in Britain it confuses the hell out of me and I cannot say that I understand it any more then I can understand Sunni and Shia conflict given the peaceful or supposed peaceful philosophy of their religion as I understand it to be. The whole bloody mess appears to me to be evil incarnate really and not true religion. For the record I am as stated several times in the past against the whole idea of the worship of “religion” the reason is that it is simply a distraction from the real point. To that respect I would say that in my experience Protestants seem to be less inclined to be involved in the worship of man made doctrines and ideals and more focused on concentrating on biblical philosophy. Going out on a limb here and showing just how ignorant I am on the subject I would say that if I understand that it is the Church of England that endorses promotes or sponsors Catholicism then I could appreciate how this would be quite alarming to a protestant living under the ire of Catholic religious dominance even to the point of taking arms against “It”. One can only imagine how they would act or believe if not actually in that environment.
the church of england is protestant. catholics were discriminated against in england/uk by protestants for a long long long time. protestants founded america. ireland is catholic. for a long time, signs in bars/hotels/barbers etc. used to say no blacks, chinese or irish.
God Save the Queen! ;D Actually I’m just kidding its all bullshit. See what happens when I go out on a limb. The whole idea actually annoys me that much that I ignore it.
Shocking, isn't it? "Add to that the following: Israel trains US assassination squads in Iraq Julian Borger in Washington Tuesday December 9, 2003 Guardian Israeli advisers are helping train US special forces in aggressive counter-insurgency operations in Iraq, including the use of assassination squads against guerrilla leaders, US intelligence and military sources said yesterday. And then this from the UK Independent's Robert Fisk: Unknown Americans Are Provoking Civil War In Iraq The Americans, my interlocutor suspected, are trying to provoke an Iraqi civil war so that Sunni Muslim insurgents spend their energies killing their Shia co-religionists rather than soldiers of the Western occupation forces... "One young Iraqi man told us that he was trained by the Americans as a policeman in Baghdad and he spent 70 per cent of his time learning to drive and 30 per cent in weapons training. They said to him: 'Come back in a week.' When he went back, they gave him a mobile phone and told him to drive into a crowded area near a mosque and phone them. He waited in the car but couldn't get the right mobile signal. So he got out of the car to where he received a better signal. Then his car blew up." Impossible, I think to myself. But then I remember how many times Iraqis in Baghdad have told me similar stories. And we begin to get a very different picture and understanding of what is happening in Iraq, Israel and many other places." link
Israelis Special forces have a lot of experience dealing with both Hezbollah as well as Hamas and for that matter other Arab as well as Persian terrorist threats. Israel is not an enemy of ours and we have a common interest. I see no conflict that they would train with our SF. I guess if the enemy of America makes an accusatory claim against our country that cannot be proven true then the worst case scenario must be fact right? ??? That is almost always the psychological effect of a charge such as that you are making. The heinous nature of the charge. Tends to inflame a persons sensibilities even to the point of even if only subconsciously they lower the bar of proof in trade for the idea that some sort of justice must be done. For example some guys sister gets beaten, then raped, then killed. No one ever liked the guy he was a jerk and prone to a violent nature. Instantly the brother almost totally need for any burden of proof in trade for sweet revenge. The brother gills the boyfriend who later it is proven innocent. Something that can be chocked up to “o well he was an ass that had it coming anyways” But this distraction is the very reason the real culprit got away with the atrocity and the brother is behind bars for 20 years. I’m telling you Nursey the Iraqi people are being manipulated in the worst way including yourself. The tactic of framing American soldiers is one that has been used to many times in the past. And just look who it always is doing the framing. With all the talk of enemies of America is it not reasonable that at least one would not take the opportunity. Not to mention the military haters here on our own soil.
