So the press is giddy all of a sudden and having a field day about it. Basic rules of quail hunting dictate that the hunters cross a field either use dogs or kick the brush to spook a quail into flight. It’s a bit of a rush requiring lightening quick reaction the quail are very well camouflaged. The idea when crossing the field is that the shooters stay in an even line not to go ahead no man moves faster then the slowest. The reason is then you know where your clear shot is. If you are open to the side then that is a plus because the quail are liable to fly in an arch and head back towards other shooters and you miss a shot. Someone walking up on a shooter should identify himself. A few birdshots at so many yards are not the big deal you would imagine generally. In hunting people get shot sometimes no big deal really. The thing about Shotguns is at a distance the area that a person could get hit can be quite large. They can have fun with it I mean they all hate the vice president. But remember that their opinion is not reflective of the opinion of the general public. The whole bonanza of giddy fun poking can backfire on them in terms of credibility.
http://www.firearmsid.com/A_distshotpatt.htm For the sake of understanding birdshot Typical for something like quail would be #8 shot larger #7.5 shot http://www.firearmsid.com/jpgs/ssoo.jpg Buckshot (typical stuff you see a guy get blown away at the movies but even thats fake. Check the tookie Williams post to see a worst case scenario of close range with a sawed off shotgun using buckshot) http://www.firearmsid.com/jpgs/spat28.jpg Unsure of the gage and choke used but this was at 28 feet. Look at that test pattern and judge that the other hunter was hit with approximately 10 pellets between his face to his torso. He was coming up from the side after crouching to retrieve a bird. The distance had to be pretty good. We are talking give the guy a band aid here. I have popped bee bees out like popping a zit before and birdshot is like a tenth the size. Now that you are informed somewhat better. Sit back and observe the misinformation and innuendo.
I just think it's funny that the vice president shot someone in the face. How do you say that's no big deal? Do you realise the implications of that for comedic purposes. Not to mention, shooting someone in the face is probably a bigger deal than lying about getting a blow-job. I've gotten a blow-job, I've never shot anyone in the face, with anything. Except the by-product of a blowjob, but that's Mayhem material.
Sure it is funny when taken out of context. My only point is that people have not a clue about firearms and the whole "face" deal is he got hit in the face neck and torso. With less than 1% of the shot at a distance means that the vice presidents muzzle was pointed at least a few yards away from the idiot that did not make himself known to be in the area. But the implication made, and your guilty of it also is that "The vice president of the U.S. pointed a gun right into the face of his hunting partner and pulled the trigger." I just laid out the facts for you to see. I did not argue that it could be fodder for the comedians especially given the misconceptions it alludes to.
ten pellets at 30 yards means he could have pulled the trigger with the gun pointed 5 yards away in either direction.
joe you;ve been rigth all along..... cahney didnt do it... he's innocent..... it was the media..... a camermaman was dressed as a quail and tried attacking that lawyer.... cheney was just trying to defend his friend from the beast...... the rest was just friendly fire.... most unfortunate, but sacrefices must be made.... for freedom *tear* GOD BLESS US EVERYONE
I don't hear anyone saying that Cheney intentionally shot the guy in the face. All I hear is jokes along the lines of "Duck, it's Dick". Which I think are hilarious by the way. Anyone who would tell a Senator, on the Senate floor, to go fuck himself if capable of shooting someone in the face. I bet they turn it around and blame it on the highly partisan shotgun he was using. I bet it was manufactured by democrats to fire into Republicans faces. Don't be an idiot Joe, Cheney shot someone in the face, end of story.
But Grim, he didn't shoot him, it's that fucking partisan gun and it's vicious attack on our good republican vice president. I don't understand how Joe can say that it isn't really Cheney's fault. No one is saying he did it on purpose, what they are saying, and this is true, is that shot from Cheney's gun hit this man in the face, neck, and chest. No big deal, right. Well Joe, let me volunteer to shoot you in the face, since it's no problem. Right?
He shot in the direction of an individual 30 yards away how was hit by less than 1 percent of the shot in various areas of his body one specifically was the face also the neck and torso. You want it both ways. Saying Dick Cheney shot a man in the face implies that he stuck a gun in a guys face and pulled a trigger. I referred to the media as the purveyors of misinformation and innuendo. I was correct in doing so. That may ruffle your feathers because you do not desire the truth just the misinformation and innuendo. Its like a lawyer asking the defendant "Is it true you stopped beating your wife last week?" and demanding a simple yes or no answer. If he says yes then case closed it means he did beat his wife. If he never did beat his wife and says no then the implication is that he is in the habit of and will in the future beat his wife. Either way its a play on words "Dick Cheney shot a man in the face".
He shot him, They where hunt without a permit, So basically they where pouching. Plus he tried his best to cover it up. Now I know hunting accidents happen. I know he did not mean to shoot him, things happen. I know I live in Arkansas the king of hunting accidents also "Hunting Accidents" yes there is a difference. Everyone knows if you want to off someone here invite them hunting. But that's a whole other post. My problem he was pouching and tried to cover up, Not that he will ever see the inside of a courtroom but he should step down as soon as possible. This is just another example of the old boys club and the rules do not apply the same to the rich as they do too us.
Ok so exactly what does that mean? Is that statement totally true? How did shot get "lodged" in his heart? Was his face shot and the shot ricocheted off of his cheekbone down to his chin then back to a rear vertebra and then through a lung to a front rib bone then "lodge" 2 cm into the muscle tissue of the heart? I mean the guy was shot point blank in the face with a shotgun right? Or did the guy get hit with ten or so pellets slightly larger then the ball inside a bic medium ballpoint pen. One of which floated around in his torso to eventually irritate the persons heart and cause an irregular beat (theory) temporarily that was never noticed by the person who was saying that he was fit as a fiddle and wanting to go home?
Nah he did not have a pouch he never invited his friend the platypus along this time. Or the official whitehouse kangaroo for that matter.
Wow Joe, get a job for Fox news doing spin control. This is rediculous. Had Cheney been responsible for what he was doing the guy wouldn't have any "shot" in him to begin with. Is the guy an idiot, yes. But the fact of the matter is Cheney lost his situational awareness while he was firing a gun, and someone got hurt. Cheney shot a man, whether it be by accident or intentional, but it's Cheney's fault since he pulled the trigger. Clinton getting a blowjob hurt absolutely fucking no one. And there was an impeachment trial. Cheney shoots a guy, and the media is using it for disinformation. Funny, how did I know all the details of it then. At no point in this post did I say Cheney was a bad guy, or that he was a horrible person, all I said was Cheney shot someone, and then later said that Cheney shot somone in the face. Which he did.
My English in that last post was atrocious. Sorry for any confusion in regards to my butchering of the language.
Joe belives anything that fox tells him, I think Bill should go out and shoot his wife then we would have non stop coverage on Fox about what he had for breakfast and how much iron was in his pee. Also they would let us know about his entire past and how he should be hung by his nutts and beat like a dirty rug in Itly.
Doesn't matter, he needs to acknowledge that Republicans can do wrong. I don't understand the idiocy of trusting one party and not the other, they're all lying sons of bitches, no more so democrats than republicans.
