Looks like the trajectory, only smaller. Are you sure its not the trajectory of the first piece falling of ?
Yep, the shuttle started breaking apart a few minutes after this photo was taken. The higher resolution pictures that NASA held on to but never released had all the stars and stuff, which confirmed the shuttle's location. Also, pieces falling off shouldn't corkscrew around and then fly upwards against gravity.
Depending on the weight of the piece it could do that. Get in your car, go 55MPH and let a plastic grocery bag out of the window. It goes up and swirls around, similar to the streak in the photo.
Yeah too bad that's not what it was, since nothing was breaking off the shuttle at that point. NASA says it was caused by a camera jiggle. It sure does look like lightning though, especially with the brightening plasma trail. Did you even read what those guys had to say about it?
You mean that long post from thunderbolt.info? Yea. I just dont think it was lightning. And I wasnt trying to debunk their theory, just saying that if something fell off of, or broke off of, the shuttle it could go flying back up, like one of the tiles that are on it. I dont just believe everything I read on the internet.
And I just don't believe everything I'm spoonfed by the mainstream these days. It sure does look like a lightning bolt to me, and a lot of other people in fact. The Sun was really acting up at the time as well, with lots of solar flares and sunspots. The Columbia was specifically researching and photographing high-altitude lightning as well. That, combined with the earthquake-like readings and the need to keep the electric nature of the universe quiet, convinced me that it was lightning that did the shuttle in, and not some ridiculous foam theory.
There are probably as many anti-lightning people as there are pro-lightning people. Why would NASA take the blame, by saying that tile damage from falling insulation foam, caused the shuttle accident, instead of saying, "WHOA this big bolt of lightning hit it and really f'd it up, the astronauts were dead long before re-entry" Just seems like a lot of bad press for something as insignifigant as lightning.
But it's very significant. Lightning is supposed to be generated in the clouds and lower atmosphere, it's not supposed to come from space. If it were found that this lightning (and all lightning) did in fact come from space, that would lead to a cascade of events where we would discover the electromagnetic nature of all things. With this newfound enlightenment we would begin wondering about all the things our ancestors told us about, and we would ponder the usefulness of such devices as the Arc of the Covenant and the Great Pyr-mid if it had a gold capstone. It would make so much sense to everyone, good and bad alike. These are most delicate times indeed, because any "little" big thing can really blow it all wide open. We know so much, we only need to put it together.
Here is where someone writes a piece to prove their point. Lets just say that NASA said that it could have been ____ , ___ , ____ , Camera Jiggle , ___ , ___ , or ___. The guy reads NASA's report sees some very compelling reasoning for what it could be then sees "Camera Jiggle" runs back to write his article that NASA blamed it on a camera jiggle. A lot of people would argue that the writer did not lie NASA did indeed say that it could have been a camera jiggle. I beg to differ when a journalist or whoever misleads and successfully brings people to draw a misguided conclusion he most certainly did lie in the balance of the piece he wrote. With clouds and air in the atmosphere and land you have movement between different objects that can have come from an area of different ionic charge. Lightening is simply equalization between these two potentially different charged objects this happens when the resistance of the dielectric (in this case air) is not enough to overcome the attraction between the two opposing charges. As a storm rolls in two things are happening that effect this. One you have the massively charged clouds rolling in close to the earth. Two you have the air becoming humid and therefore becoming less of a dielectric. Or at least one with lesser resistance. I did not copy that out of a book or off the internet Smurf I just know this. You need to take some electronics courses and apparently you are studying somewhere that hand with the thumb point to the north pole for deciding the direction of electron flow has been used as a teaching tool for quite some time. What you need to proof is that out there in invisible gravitieless space there are winds of invisible movement. This movement of some type of matter that can be of varying electric charge. Also you then need to explain why we never see lightening running at different angles in space seemingly from nowhere and to nowhere. This would be like lightening that jumps from cloud to cloud here in our atmosphere.
The problem is that they didn't say it could be a large number of things, Joe. They just said it couldn't have been lightning because there weren't any thunderstorms underneath the shuttle, so it must have been a camera jiggle. Pieces breaking off the shuttle were excluded since there were still so many eyes on it for the next 6 minutes, so can you see how NASA is the one that is misguiding everybody? That's really fine and dandy Joe but I think you, like so many other misguided souls, has come to believe that we completely understand lightning when actually we do NOT. How the clouds and air allow for such a large charge separation to occur is still a mystery, but look at the elves and sprites damn it!
