CNN Poll: Double-digit post-speech jump for Obama plan But HOLD ON WHATS THIS? CNN SPIN SPEECH 'POLL' SAMPLED DOUBLE THE AMOUNT OF DEMS... '45 percent Democratic and 18 percent Republican'... Looks as if the Communist News Network it using its polls to brainwash the sheeple again. How can you tell a CNN news reporter is lying? When their mouth is moving.
How about the Republican from South Carolina calling him a liar in the middle of his speech? That was awesome. Have you read any of the bill? It reads like backwards japanese stereo instructions. It is fucked up.
Man Obama has been caught in hundreds of lies its amazing the way he gets away with it. The media will not call him on it and the minority of reporters that do are labeled right wing radicals.
Or racists. Thats how they do it, they fear you into being quiet. If you say, 'he's a fucking liar and just like all politicians, he's out for himself' you are a racist. If you dont bow down and kiss his golden ring you are a racist. If you dont smile as he fucks you out of your rights, you are a racist.
Or a greedy wealthy person who is cold and callous without a heart and wants old people to starve and poor people to die miserably in the streets. Cause if we do not go for Socialism then that's what we are mean people.
Mean people who have good insurance. I wouldnt mind a public option, but not at the expense of taxpayers. If it cant support itself then it needs to not be a program.
OK but just help me out here. If an indigent on the street is shot in the lung and walks into the ER. What does the hospital do? I mean he is uninsured right? Or is he really? Who pays for him to be taken care of?
They cant refuse them care. Thats the point. I dont get it either. I think that there should be some sort of alternative care for those that dont have, or cant afford health insurance. I think saying in 5 years there cant be any new policies added to private insurance is bogus. If they had a self supporting system that could help others, I'd be all for it, but if its like the same crappy help I get at the DMV, or any time you go to the social security office, they can fucking keep it. It will be nothing more than a pork barrel welfare plan.
OK so now that we have established that no one in America goes without care then that changes the argument all together and it seems the "tall tales" and "scare tactics" are coming from the Obama group not the HC reform protesters. There are two kinds of people predominantly that are for Obama's HC reform. Those who are to gain at the expense of others and those profiting from the system and the other group are the misguided people who think Obama's reform is really about being compassionate to the young, weak, elderly. When it could not be further from the truth.
man, i hope none of it goes through. Yeah people who are in emergency need should and do get taken care of, no doubt. but there shouldnt have to be a manditory plan paid by citizens. NM has a program that takes care of people who dont have insurance already.( i think its called molina) not sure how it exactly works , but joe nor anyone else should have to pay for my doctor visits. I should. nuff said.
Why should, for instance, a person that lives a life of risks (let's say, in this instance, a citizen that pays into a work-sponsored health care program, and happens to engage in some activities (that obviously would put them in a higher-risk category, such as skiing or maybe even having a penchant for running into the inner slums in Brooklyn and shouting "NIGGER" at the top of their lungs?)* *see "The Kentucky Fried Movie" for clarification I don't believe that people more likely to have occupational (or recreational) hazards should pay the same as folks that do not engage in reckless behavior. This is one area of health care that differs from auto insurance. If your auto insurance company knows you like to drink and drive, they will either drop you, or increase your rates significantly. Why not the same for other folks that engage in (legal) activities that put them in the same mortality category?
i was an agent for life( death ) and health insurance when i was in colorado. things should certainly work in that manner for health as well. if you engage in hazardous activities, you get a rating or dont get covered( in the case of life insurance ). Rating are also based on current health as well at time of enrollment. so if youre a skydiver with some clogged artaries, why the hell should we pay for you to be covered when you get some broken bones or a heart attack? if regular insurance wont cover those things, there is always another company out there that will. you can almost buy insurance for anything, and there are companies who take on higher risks. yeah you pay a higher premium, but if you engage in dangerous stuff, you should have to pay to play. i just dont see anything good oming from the care plan that is currently being debated
The one person I know it would benefit is BM. No insurance company out there will cover her and her son. She has looked high and low. Pre-existing conditions are BS. Insurance companies have thousands a people a year die that never received any benefits and then you get one that you know is going to need it, and nope, we cant take you. I think if you go 10 years and never have a claim they should have to give you your premiums back.
Certainly i agree, pre-existing conditions should be covered for every citizen. As far as a refund on premiums, i think it wouldnt be so bad if a partial refund was given in an instance where no claims were made. however, i think a full refund would be depleting to more than just the insurance companies. yeah, they suck a nut, but they are some of the few institutions that made it through the last great depression
I do not know when the last time was I saw so much common sense on one page. There was one point that I disagree with but I'm not gonna point it out.
