I hate it when Nursey is right.....

I honestly don't know what to say about this...This put me at a loss of words.

http://www.yikers.com/video_bayer_purposely_deployed_medicine_with_hiv_in_it.html

 

I hate it when it is assumed that Nursey is right.

Bayer may well have committed a criminal act here. I don;t know for sure. What I do know for sure is that the incident in question didn't happen yesterday, it happened in 1983, which is about 23 years ago. Not as much was know about AIDS at that time.

July 5th, 2006 marks the 25th anniversary of the first reported case of AIDS.

I think Bayer probably did wrong. Just keep it in perspective of 1983, not 2006.

 

It wasn't a medicine it was a clotting factor (factor VIII) produced by the body that the blood needs to clot for hemophiliacs, who lack the clotting factor, and was donated by donors like any other blood product. It must have occurred around the time people were becoming aware of the risk of blood products causing a disease that we now know as AIDs and before screening tests were developed for donated blood products. Here is a more neutral reporting of the facts:



Bayer Sold HIV-Risky Meds

FRANKFURT, Germany, May 22, 2003
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(AP)


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"Decisions made nearly two decades ago were based on the best scientific information of the time and were consistent with the regulations in place. They cannot be judged on the information available today."
Bayer AG
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(AP) Chemical and drug maker Bayer AG said Thursday it acted "responsibly, ethically and humanely" during the 1980s in selling a blood-clotting product that stopped potentially fatal bleeding in hemophiliacs but was linked to the risk of HIV infection.

The company's statement was in response to a New York Times report that it sold millions of dollars worth of an older version of the medication in Latin America and Asia while marketing a newer, safer product in the United States and Europe.

Bayer division Cutter Biological continued selling old stocks of the medicine for more than a year after it introduced a version in February 1984 that was heat-treated to kill HIV, according to documents obtained by the Times.

The medicine, called Factor VIII concentrate, can stop or prevent potentially fatal bleeding in people with hemophilia, a genetic condition that prevents blood from clotting normally.

Early in the AIDS epidemic, the medicine was made using plasma from 10,000 or more donors. There was not yet a screening test for HIV, the virus that causes AIDS, so even a small number of HIV-positive donors could taint a large pool of plasma recipients.

As a result, thousands of hemophiliacs became infected with HIV. Bayer and three other companies that made the concentrate have paid about $600 million to settle more than 15 years of lawsuits accusing them of making a dangerous product, the newspaper said.

The documents from that litigation, examined by the Times, include internal memos, minutes of marketing meetings and telexes to foreign distributors.

Bayer, based in the western German city of Leverkusen, said Cutter continued selling the older version because some customers doubted the new one's effectiveness, and because some countries were slow to approve its sale. It said there were initially concerns that heat-treating might make the drug less safe or less effective.

"Bayer has always behaved responsibly, ethically, and humanely to provide lifesaving products for the global hemophilia community," the statement said.

"Decisions made nearly two decades ago were based on the best scientific information of the time and were consistent with the regulations in place. They cannot be judged on the information available today."

The Times said at least 100 hemophiliacs in Hong Kong and Taiwan alone contracted AIDS after using the older product, and that many have since died. Li Wei-chun said her son, who died in 1996 at the age of 23, was among the victims.

"They did not care about the lives in Asia," she said. "It was racial discrimination."

Cutter also sold the older medicine in Argentina, Indonesia, Japan, Malaysia, and Singapore after February 1984, according to the documents. The newspaper said Cutter shipped more than 100,000 vials of unheated concentrate, worth more than $4 million, after it began selling the safer product.

The sales continued partly because of Cutter's desire to deplete stocks of the older medicine, and partly because of fixed-price contracts, for which the company believed the older product would be cheaper to make, the newspaper said.

In March 1983, the federal Centers for Disease Control warned that blood products appeared responsible for AIDS among hemophiliacs. Three months later, Cutter sent a letter to distributors in nearly two dozen nations saying that AIDS was "the center of irrational response in many countries."

In late 1984, as Hong Kong hemophiliacs began testing positive for HIV, some doctors wondered whether Cutter was sending "AIDS-tainted" medicine into less-developed nations.

But the company assured its distributor that the unheated product posed "no severe hazard" and was the "same fine product we have supplied for years."

In May 1985, Dr. Harry M. Meyer Jr., the Food and Drug Administration's blood-products official, called the companies to a meeting, believing they had broken an agreement to stop selling the older medicine, the Times said. But Meyer decided to handle the matter quietly instead of notifying the public, the newspaper said.

 

A serious post from Dan. Baby steps Dan, baby steps.

 

nursey is always right, don't you fucks ever forget that

 

She hasn't posted a decent picture in a year. She is WRONG for that.

Barry

 

That is what is so amazing about Dan. Sometimes he is rational, logical and intelligent, and other times he sounds like a combination of Smurf and Hillary Clinton.


Must be drugs. He is better when he is wasted I bet.



Barry

 

Speaking of drugs, a kid showed up here at work yesterday. He was wasted out of his mind. He was so drugged out he couldn't even pull the money out of his pocket and he was shaking like he had Parkinsons. I made him sit on the couch, and he was too fucked up to even call home. He started wandering around, so I escorted him back up front and made him sit on the couch. Within 30 seconds he couldn't even maintain muscle tension in his neck. I checked his pulse and it was at about 160, so I called the paramedics. His pulse was about 160, but his respiration was at about 4 breaths a minute. The paramedics showed up, put him on a gurney, and wheeled him out. They had to defrib him on the way out of the parking lot. Last I heard he was in critical condition in the ICU and they couldn't figure out what it was that he had taken. Before he passed out he said he'd taken about 20 Soma, but Soma doesn't make your heart rate jump into the 200's. You guys have any ideas. He tested negative for coke and speed, so those were my first two guesses.

 

Five Soma's = Near Death experience. Tremors, Convulsions, Tachardia.

TWO Soma and TWO Budweiser = GOOD NIGHT, SLEEP TIGHT, MAYBE YOU WILL WAKE UP TOMORROW, MAYBE NOT.

I take one a night for muscle pain in my leg. Good stuff in moderation.

 

Damn barry I got a drug problerm, I take like 10 of them with 5 percocetsa... nice buzz

 

Maybe PCP laced shrooms or weed or maybe a whole lotta X. That really does sound like a coke OD though.

 

Nope, not coke, PCP, or weed. All of those would have shown up in a urine sample. Not Exstacy either. That would have shown up in a urine sample as well. I'm thinking it's some form of designer drug that he mixed with Soma. Just a hunch. People around here have more money then brains.

 

What about GHB, DMT, LSD, they are not detectable in urine or hair (okay Ketamine is postive in blood), fame with Ketamine, and its true, Poppy Seed Bagels will fuck up an opiod urine and hair strand test, only true drug test is a lumbar puncture, but those (I believe ) are illegal. Designer drugs are where its at! Same with Psylociblin,,, it reacts like PCP, so they say you are whacked on PCP, and the only way to test is an spinal tap (lumbar puncture) so the nurse/doctor tries to get the patient to admit and sign a confession saying they abused PCP. (this happend to an aquantance of mine)

 

They took a blood sample, but those take 24 hours to process. He was in critical condition when they took the blood sample. For all I know the kids dead by now. Just kind of mulling the question over in my mind.

 

Not to be the harbinger of hate, but honestly, if he's dead, at least he won't have the chance to breed, and I'm personally okay with that.

On the other hand, I can only wonder what his family life was like. Maybe his mother is disgusting whore, or his father is immensly abusive... or maybe he just like the taste of his own bile being shoved through any open oriface it can escape from.

At any rate, wish I could have been there to see it. Cheers to Dio.

TheStreaker

 

I think I still have the video. It's not that exciting though. Not the first time we've seen someone pass out on a couch.

 

Barry, if you disagree with Dwaine again, i'm going to kick your soft, watery jocksac up your quivering, fat bumhole. Capiche?

 

Do I have to pay for that, or is it a freebie?


Barry

 

You can't put a price on something that precious. And it's not even mine to give. I simply act as a conduit for universal forces that find their way to the places that need them. Accepting it with gratitude is enough.

 

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