<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Nursey: So...correct me if i'm wrong here,but you say you are "NOT CONVINCED" of his involvement,but you are"SATISFIED" of his involvement....which is it??!?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Sorry, Nursey-wursey- whatever that slimy substance is leaking out your nose and ears must be impairing your hearing: I am not yet convinced bL ordered or was the prime mover behind 9-11 - simply no evidence yet - but I am satisfied that he is guilty of plenty of enough shit already that it would be no great loss were bL to perish accidentally vaporized by a cruise missile (or 3) that went mysteriously awry in an otherwise successful strike on the real, identified perp(s) nearby (+/- 500mi). IOW, with the essential sentiment of that time-honored, Texas defense to shooting a villain: "Well, yore honor...he needed killin'!" That's the way I feel - bin Laden needs killin'. Roger me now?
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by sparky69: dumb ass!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> as i said before.... oh the irony!!
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Emetic: Sorry, Nursey-wursey- whatever that slimy substance is leaking out your nose and ears must be impairing your hearing: [/B]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> *STERN* I REALLY DON'T CONSIDER IT APPROPRIATE TO REFER TO A MEMBER OF MY PROFESSION AS 'NURSEY-WURSEY'...HOWEVER,I AM NOT HERE TO ADDRESS THAT-LET'S GET STRAIGHT TO THE BUISINESS AT HAND... * it was the cia who thought up the taliban and bin laden and funded and trained them all in order to beat the russians-in fact many people think that bin laden is actually a cia double agent! * the taliban and bin laden are actually a mirror of the americans * the americans helped them to overthrow a progressive pro-communist government in kabul which upheld women's rights - women worked and had some freedom under the government that america helped the taliban overthrow. * apparently bin laden turned on his masters the americans when he saw them allowed to use saudi arabia the heartland and holiest place of islam as a military base...and particularly one that was used to attack fellow muslims ie Iraq. * most muslims are just like us and just want to have a nice quiet life - if only they were allowed to. * its actually the americans who are the fanatics with their penchant for dropping bombs on people in far off lands - if that's not fanaticism and i dont know what is! * i would feel a bit happier about this whole thing if it was being done through time honoured legal diplomatic channels in consultation with other countries ie through the United Nations but the americans are just getting a posse together. * maybe for the brain-washed populace who believe all the propaganda that is fed to them by the lying media,america is beyond reproach but not to the starving and dispossessed peoples of the world robbed by the americans and bombed into the ground by them * where does it all end - really we should addressing the original crimes that america is guilty of rather than the reaction to them - and anyway whose to trust america the biggest liars on earth.
yes. american obviously has erred too many times to count. we subject hundreds of other countries to poverty via our corporations and free trade. our numerous political interventions where we force a certain type of govt into power, despite the fact that the same type of government is not suitable for every country. we support and give money to militias and guerilla groups in order to perhaps put ppl 'we' think will do the right thing once in charge disregarding the fact that we enforce bloodshed because of this. our country has acted in the idea that the end justifies the means. the terrorists did the same. neither end can be justified. i do not condone either action. i also do not condomn the US for wanting to put those responsible accept responsibility for their actions. i am all for justly punishing those responsible whether it be osama bin laden and his coconspirators if they are found to be responsible. what i am NOT for is starting a war with the afghani nation. the govt in my opinion had nothing to do with the terrorist taken upon the US. i think the most just thing to do is give afganistan a week to hand over bin laden (for there is reasonable enough concern of his connection to take him to court.) if they dont we dont go to war against afghanistan, we simply take some troops and go in to get him manually. we take the guy and his 'group' to internation trial, where it will be somewhat less biased than an american one. after that, if he is found to be guilty..im somewhat unsure of how to proceed. i am against the death penalty in all cases, this not being an exception. however..if we allow him to live in prison on a life sentence. youll eventually get terrorist group after terrorist group threatening violence unless hes released. so im at an empass in that regard.
"your whole little responce thing is all about bin laden and how he is a fucking bastard. dumb ass!" -sparky [sorry new and havent fully discovered how to do qutes etc. bear with me.] ok. OBVIOUSLY you didnt read my post. if you understood an inkling of what i posted AT ALL, one would assume that i dont blindly believe he is guilty as the media is portraying.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by methinks: [sorry new and havent fully discovered how to do qutes etc. bear with me.]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> click on this icon ( ) on the post you want to quote from...
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PimpDaddy v2.01beta: as i said before.... oh the irony!!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> FUCK YOU!!
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>The Original Dumbass sparky69 Stutters, showering everybody with crumbs of babyrusk: F-F-F-FUCK YOU!!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> wow ... i tremble at your power to brandish the insult with impunity... you have a lot to learn, and i'm gonna have fun witnessing your education
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by methinks: Ok. OBVIOUSLY you didnt read my post. if you understood an inkling of what i posted AT ALL, one would assume that i dont blindly believe he is guilty as the media is portraying.[/B]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Well i think that he at least had a part in this crap if he didn't do it all because we have watched cnn forever and they told why the government thinks that it was bin laden and the crap that they are saying makes sence and is probaly true. (i wouldn't know because you know how much media distorts stuff and i dont know about politics and all of that.) but the media does distort stuff very much so i will give you that. but i dont know if you are right or if i am right or if we are both totally wrong which is very possible but each is entilted to their own opinion.
we just have to make sure our opinions are based on factual information and not simply speculation. from what cnn is saying it does seem like he may have somewhat of a connection to this. im not 100% convinced however. why the hell is he not gloating? i dont know. perhaps he realized what kind of deep shite hes in. i am into politics and know how much hte media distorts things. ie the celebratory pictures you saw on fox news of the palestinian people were taken in 1991. the media placed pics of dying americans from the wtc attack, then cut to thos epictures. thats media manipulation at its finest.
What i want to know is why the press arent talking about the dangerously high levels of asbestos that where releaseed when the towers went done,the people of New York should know of this fact.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Emetic: ...but I am satisfied that he is guilty of plenty of enough shit already that it would be no great loss were bL to perish accidentally vaporized by a cruise missile (or 3) that went mysteriously awry in an otherwise successful strike on the real, identified perp(s) nearby (+/- 500mi). IOW, with the essential sentiment of that time-honored, Texas defense to shooting a villain: "Well, yore honor...he needed killin'!" That's the way I feel - bin Laden needs killin'. Roger me now?[/B]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Yeah i get you-in other words least 99% of the countries/leaders in this world should be nuked by that logic-including the one you live in. ...And when i made my original point it wasn't intended as an attack on you-just a point of view,but i see you'd like to condescend to ("Don't tell me what you think I think - I'm quite willing and capable of telling you that myself.") and 'insult' me - ("Sorry, Nursey-wursey- whatever that slimy substance is leaking out your nose and ears must be impairing your hearing" )for voicing that opinion. Amazing how fickle some people can be-i'm glad i don't need to put my trust in you over,say,a buisiness deal or something.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MATRON: *STERN* I REALLY DON'T CONSIDER IT APPROPRIATE TO REFER TO A MEMBER OF MY PROFESSION AS 'NURSEY-WURSEY'...HOWEVER,I AM NOT HERE TO ADDRESS THAT-LET'S GET STRAIGHT TO THE BUISINESS AT HAND...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> ...ERRR-THANKS Matron!That's me just getting back to work!
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR> [Lubin:] Finally, what were the major elements of the Bush (Senior) administration's successful propaganda campaign to convince the American people to support the (Gulf) war? How did it work? [Chomsky]I think the main thing that worked was frightening the population, terrorizing and intimidating the population. Make them feel their existence was threatened. The major elements of this propaganda campaign were very much like the earlier cases that I mentioned, to create an image of a demon, to create an image of a very powerful colossus about to take over the world's energy system, marching on from there to dominate the world, making us cower in fear, so under such circumstances we had no way but to support violence, cheer at the destruction of the violence that threatened our existence.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> This may be of interest to those who have enquiring minds and are not too scared to think for themselves about what might be going on.As I point out,it is Bush SENIOR and the GULF WAR that are being discussed,but does it not ring any bells? As extreme as it may sound to those with a naive view of the world,i cannot help feeling that this whole scenario is in fact an extreme ploy by Israel and the U.S. to engineer global circumstances to be of optimum receptivity to the next installment of the plan to createthe New World Order.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by methinks: i find it odd and somewhat disturbing that the man triumphs his other attacks publicly, but this current attack, which should be considered his greatest triumph in his eyes, he refuses to accept responsibility for.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> I am in complete agreement there. <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>from what cnn is saying it does seem like he may have somewhat of a connection to this. im not 100% convinced however. why the hell is he not gloating? i dont know. perhaps he realized what kind of deep shite hes in. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Do you not think that whoever perpetrated this meticulously planned operation would realise what kind of implications it would hold?
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote very true. maybe he has his reasons... but again its disturbing that he shouts to the world about what he's done in the past...and refuses to take responsibility for this..something, one would think he would be jumping up and down like a school kid who knows the answer, to take claim for. did it seem a little too convenient to anyone else that they found arabic flight manuals in a rental car in the parking lot of the airport?
Yeah, you'd think they would want to have a pritty good idea on how to fly a plane long before the drive to the airport.
