I am ashamed to be labeled as part of the human race.

Obama's photo op while signing the health care reform bill.

Granted, it was publicity more than anything - I hope that there are several threads of sanity in place somewhere in office that can offset this miserable snapshot of the antithesis of human progress.

 

Can somone explain this bill to me? I have a hard time getting the nitty gritty on it.

The place where I used to work, you make about 10 bucks an hour. Insurance now costs 250/biweekly for a married couple, 300/biweekly for a family of 6. I'm fucking glad I quit because I wouldn't have insurance anymore. The childless people who have less to insure pick up all the slack for the whores that need to keep their fucking legs closed. I fear that is what is going to happen with this govt. It's already a mess with the damn food stamps. They need to regulate what people can buy with that shit. No longer should they be allowed to buy candy and pop. This is what I think happens. You get the lazy worthless handouts, and they buy BRAND NAME chips, pop and candy bars on our dime (uh, dollar) sit around and smoke their cigarettes (suprised we don't pay for them, but we probably do somehow) and they get fat, fatter, obese as fuck and then get diabetes or have heart attacks or strokes and they are down in the ER, they don't pay their bill, the hospital has to recoup somehow so they raise the price of everything and the working people pay for it, while they live paycheck to paycheck and have to buy Great Value shit at Walmart in the humiliating blue and white costcutter throwback boxes.

I propose:

Constant 24/7 audit of food stamp users (this would create jobs).

Offenders should be sterilized (no more welfare kids) and forced to volunteer for the hospital cleaning up vomit, feces, etc. until their debt is paid off. (Hospitals will then be forced to lower their cost.) If they refuse, jail time and they will be forced to do worse things in prison (and I ain't just taking about dropping the soap). Because jail will be work, work, work. In fact, certain prisoners, (mainly rapists and child molesters) will be subject to human testing (the labrats, monkeys, dogs and cats will be free.... yay!).

Food stamps should no longer cover junk food. It's just supporting the obesity epidemic. I feel like if you work and want to be a fatass I guess you have that right, but I am not paying for people to be fat and stinky... which leads me to my next rule...

Food stamps will cover toiletries. You can buy soap and deodorant now, no need to fucking stink.

I have more rants, but not enough time right now.

OKAY BYE! :biggrin: (Who used to do that? Snoodles?)

 

Not bad, but from a conservative point of view this would increase spending. Regulating food stamps would suck a lot of resources out of the system. I think that people should buy whatever they want with the stamps, if they value brand name cigarettes or brand name chips more than diapers or toiletries, too bad for them. I understand that in your eyes it's a handout to a bunch of lazy fucks, and in some way it is, but the main purpose of the system is to help those that are in dire need. There will always be people exploiting the government for free stuff and no system (no matter how 'perfect') can change that. Perhaps stricter conditions to qualify for food stamps would ease the pressure on the system?

 

That's what I mean about the abusers. They can and should be caught.

 

Back to the health insurance, I'm off to shop for my individual plan now. Good times.

 

Fuck it just drop out and quit being a productive then you get everything handed to you after they take it from the productive.

That's called Socialism.

The proposed fix by Obama?

Yet more Socialism.

His excuse?

Capitalism failed us.

You pay WAY WAY to much. Texas has a huge burden carrying the weight of the many uninsured illegal citizens however look what we have to offer.

http://txhealthpool.com/

 

I did not see the photo and I got a bunch of shit to do around the house I bet it is on Drudge. Will look.

 

REVOLUTION: CASTRO CHEERS OBAMACARE!

Those who said the government would not take over the radio waves like Chavis watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULMdDA37Zq4&feature=player_embedded#

 

Nauseous

Can you tell me what this means.

Remember this is one small minuscule part of 2000+ pages of legislation in the bill.

I'll tell you my interpretation. After the controlling party lets it be known that insurers will not survive unless they grease the politicians pockets and then squeeze them till it hurts. They will kill off private insurers with regulation. You will not have a choice to do any other but pay for the non-productive peoples insurance. Much worse than you do now.

20 Ways ObamaCare Will Take Away Our Freedoms

 

This country seems to be sinking really badly. If you're really rich, you have it made. If you are really poor and abuse the system, you have it made. Everyone else picks up the slack and the majority of Americans (the ones that really count... the ones that really run this country.. from nurses to fry cooks) are fucked.

Off to go eat a pound of butter, smoke a carton of cigarettes and drink a gallon of Mountain Dew. Maybe smoke some crack and go down to the ER.

 

It's all about money, it always has been about money. The "loss of freedom" propaganda is simply a thin veil to hide the fact that conservatives are greedy. There is this video going viral on Youtube, this guy who suffers from Parkinson's disease went to a tea-baggers' rally and sat down with a sign supporting health care reform. The crowd first booed him then started to threaten him. One man in particular threw money at him while shooting:"No more handouts!". The guy with Parkinson's disease took the assaults stoically. I guess that republicans value money and numbers more than human life. You live in your own little sheltered existence and you are blissfully unaware of the struggles that some households are facing when it comes to health. Most people change their mind when they give birth to a child with Cystic Fibrosis or Spina Bifida. When faced with health care bills up to $35,000 for meds and treatments, you start looking at public health care with a different eye, especially true if your insurance cap is only $10,000. Reportedly, 64% of bankruptcy in the US are caused by health care bills.

So tell me, in your "perfect" private system. How does one afford chemotherapy and radiation therapy (cost of $40,000) when the cap for your insurance is only $15,000? How do you pay? About this, while suffering from cancer you are not employed. Without an income and the bills stacking up, how do you pay?

I'm a progressive conservative, I believe in the free-market and responsible fiscal spending (interestingly I don't believe in minimum wage). But I value human life more than money. Sometimes doing what is right is worth more than stock value or conservatism principles. Life is worth more than greed.


Here is the video... Watch it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_PX5L_v_7I

 

There is no such thing as perfect healthcare. No such system will ever exist because you have greedy people peppered on both sides. It's all corrupt. I'm ashamed to be human everyday of my life. I hope I come back as a squirrel.

 

I agree, the human factor taints any attempt at something noble. Even now, people on both sides of the debate cannot agree on what is necessary to preserve human life. Confucius once said: "Life is really simple, but we insist on making it complicated.”

 

We just go to Cuba where they have a superior free system. Michael Moore foots the bill for the ticket.

http://therealcuba.com/Page10.htm

 

Can you find some photos like this from England and France? I've heard stories that these kinds of things happen in the US all the time.

 

Speaking of Micheal Moore... I watched Sicko last week. As I witnessed R-Bill Tauzin fight his heart out against Universal Health Care, I thought that man has convictions! Little did I know that after he got Universal Health Care shot down.... the drug company hired him as a lobbyist for 2 million a year. Just another example of our congressman being bought.... and the American people being screwed out of something good because of one man's greed.

 

The biggest lobby in America is from foreign countries.

 

The biggest lobby is from foreign countries??! Of course in Joe's mind diplomatic relations are a liberal brainwashing-vote buying-conspiracy to do something liberal and stuff.

Very good at finding flaws in Cuba's health care system, but that didn't answer the question you chose to quote from my post. How does a man affected by cancer (unemployed due to the cancer) pay the health care bills totaling $40,000 when his insurance cap is $15,000?

 

Perhaps you are right. That still doesn't make what he (or dozens of other congressman) have done for years now. And that is sell us out for their own personal gain. Congressman are here to serve the people. Not whoever can pay them most.

If the are selling us out to foreign countries.... that makes it that much worse.

Even former presidents are given millions by lobbyists after they are out of office as a way of saying "Thank you for selling out your people so we could continue to make more money."

 

The hospital.