Al Qaida works for US intelligence

Discussion in 'Politics' started by kathaksung, Feb 25, 2009.

  1. kathaksung

    kathaksung New Member

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    Supported by Pentagon.

    Quote, 'In yet another example of what happens to those who challenge the system, in December 2001, Maj. Pierre-Henri Bunel was convicted by a secret French military court of passing classified documents that identified potential NATO bombing targets in Serbia to a Serbian agent during the Kosovo war in 1998. Bunel's case was transferred from a civilian court to keep the details of the case classified. Bunel's character witnesses and psychologists notwithstanding, the system "got him" for telling the truth about Al Qaeda and who has actually been behind the terrorist attacks commonly blamed on that group. It is noteworthy that that Yugoslav government, the government with whom Bunel was asserted by the French government to have shared information, claimed that Albanian and Bosnian guerrillas in the Balkans were being backed by elements of "Al Qaeda." We now know that these guerrillas were being backed by money provided by the Bosnian Defense Fund, an entity established as a special fund at Bush-influenced Riggs Bank and directed by Richard Perle and Douglas Feith.

    http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/
     
  2. BullGod666

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    Have I told you yet today you're a fucking moron?
     
  3. kathaksung

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    After Soviet bloc collapsed in 1992, US intelligence turned its resource once used against Soviet Union on to the Islamic bloc because of its oil tresure. A large quantity of informants converted into Islam to infiltrate the Muslim group. Padilla is one of such story. He was recruited in prison and infiltrated to the Muslim world in 92. Seven years ago, he almost became a dirty bomb witness to justify the Iraq war.

    This one becomes an Al Qaida spokesman. Along with Bin Laden, the Al Qaida is under the leadship of US intelligence.

    Quote, "Al-Qaeda’ spokesman Adam Gadahn (a.k.a. Pearlman) is scion of Jewish ADL

    Tuesday, June 16 2009 @ 03:26 PM BST

    Even the (Jewish-run) mainstream media now admits that ‘Adam Ghadan’ -- an ‘Al-Qaeda’ spokesman known for making absurd calls-to-arms against ‘infidels’ and ‘Zio-Crusaders’ -- is, in fact, the grandson of a prominent board member of the Jewish Anti-Defamation League:

    The Los Angeles Times: ‘Gadahn's grandfather was Dr. Carl K. Pearlman, a well-known Orange County urologist who died in 1998.’

    Haaretz: ‘Gadahn's grandfather was well-known urologist Carl Pearlman, an active member of the Jewish community in Orange County California.’

    American Al-Qaeda member Adam Gadahn tells of Jewish roots in video
    The Los Angeles Times
    June 14, 2009

    Adam Gadahn, a Southern California-raised man self-described as American Al-Qaeda has released a new video in which he talks about his Jewish ancestry.

    Gadahn, known as "Azzam the American", lived in Garden Grove in the 1990s after growing up on a goat farm in rural Riverside County. The FBI said he converted to Islam as a youth, left the United States around 1998 and later was associated with senior Al Qaeda lieutenant Abu Zubaida in Pakistan and attended training camps in Afghanistan.

    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lan...h-southern-california-roots-in-new-video.html
     
  4. Cheezedawg

    Cheezedawg New Member

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    Yeah! Didn't you see Rambo 3? Rambo saved the Taliban! You didn't think he did it for free did you?
     
  5. Lomotil

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    Speaking of Soviet Bloc, I recently acquired an AK bayonet that was far beyond grading criteria for any country that has made AKs. I knew it must have been of German origin. The sheath was blued, the pins on the bolsters were as invisible as those on a finely-made pocketknife.

    Of course, it was an East German made bayonet, and despite it not fitting on my Yugo AK, I still kept it, perhaps in hopes that someday, I can acquire what could possibly be the finest production of said rifle, a German AK.
     
  6. kathaksung

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    As a matter of fact, Al Qaida was known only after 911 attack. Many didn't hear it before then. Even for Syria president Assadt.

    Quote, "A norwegian professor believes al-Qaida is a Pentagon-fiction:

    http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/uriks/article.jhtml?articleID=396241

    Al Qaida exists where US intelligence dominate. Al Qaida in US when Bush need excuse to activate Mid-east war. That is 911 attack. Al Qaida is everywhere in Iraq now to bomb innocent civilians when US occupies Iraq. Strange to say, under the Saddam regime, there is no Al Qaida. Al Qaida seems only exist where the regime being controlled by US. So we see no Al qaida in Syria and Iran. No wonder Assad doubt it:

    Syrias president questions the existence of al-Qaida:

    May 26, 2003
    «Syria Denies Existence of Al Qaeda»

    «KUWAIT CITY (Talon News) -- Syrian President Bashar Assad revealed in a newspaper interview on Sunday that he does not believe there is a terrorist group called al Qaeda, the organization widely believed to be the perpetrators of the hijackings on September 11, 2001 as well as the recent attacks in Saudi Arabia and Morocco.»

    «"Is there really an entity called al Qaeda? It was in Afghanistan, but is it there anymore?" Assad asked.»

    «Assad speculated about the existence of al Qaeda and its notorious leader Usama bin Laden in a Kuwaiti newspaper called Al-Anba. »

    «Nevertheless, questioning the existence of the al Qaeda terrorist network is very popular in Arab countries. Many people in these countries believe that the United States has hyperbolized the danger of al Qaeda as a means for portraying Muslims as violent and dangerous.»

    http://www.gopusa.com/news/2003/may/0526_assad_denial.shtml
     
  7. kathaksung

    kathaksung New Member

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    Fictional Al Qaeda
    <http://www.stewebbb.com/>

    Al Qaeda is nothing more than an extension of the operatus linked to US intelligence that was allowed, by script, to remove itself as a rogue break away entity of the US government, allowed to de-compartmentalise from oversight, and was run instead by Gary Best, rogue black ops specialists for scripted activity outside of the US Government, with its funding being orchestrated through the Pakistani secret police, an entity of the US Government itself.

    -- Tom Heneghan, 2004 Presidential Candidate, American Patriot and Federal Whistleblower.
     
  8. Aballister

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    Wait a minute... Slobodan Milosevic did get somewhat of a bad rap? Those Albanian maggots had it coming?

    Milosevic attacked the independence-seeking countries of Bosnia, Slovania, Croatia, and Macedonia. More than 200,000 people are said to have lost their lives in the wars. The term "ethnic-cleansing" was coined after Milosevic's actions against Croats. He funded and supported Serb militias in Bosnia, responsible for raping, killing, and torturing civilians. More than 2,000,000 people were displaced as a result of the atrocities.

    Even when the safe haven of Srebrenica surrendered to Serb forces an estimated 7,500 muslims were systematically exterminated.

    It's only after the Serb invasion of Kosovo and the genocide of Albanian civilians that the UN finally decided to bomb Serb targets and eventually ending the war.

    I am only scratching the surface of his military "exploits". I didn't mention how he murdered political opponents, tortured critics, embezzled millions of dollars, mass graves, massive slave labor found in prisonners camps.

    Good ol' Joe. Milosevic, now there goes a role-model huh? I can't believe you actually defended his actions and blamed the Albanians for the genocide.
    After you said that the Fresh Prince was propaganda I knew you were insane but now, it's a whole different ball game. What you said here is the most disgusting thing a human being could ever say. You are a slimy kind of guy after all huh? I'm a liberal and I might be a "sheeple" but at least I don't advocate torture and mass killings. That will always make me a better person than you.
     
  9. kathaksung

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    Unraveling the Myth of Al Qaida

    By Peter Chamberlin 13 Jan 2008

    The myth of "al Qaida" is built on an expansive foundation of many half-truths and hidden facts. It is a CIA creation... In order to explain away the billions of dollars worth of weapons and training that went into the operation, they chose a rich jihadi, a Saudi millionaire named Osama bin Laden, who had been a faithful recruiter and business agent of the Mujahedeen. He was painted as the sole financier of the entire enormous operation that was centered in Pakistan and Afghanistan. Bin Laden may not even have known that he was playing a part in a deceitful CIA global drama until after the fact.
    Article continues--

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=7787
     
  11. kathaksung

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    US fight against phantom? A Bin Laden in legend but US can never touch a hair of him. A WMD in Bush's mouth but can never been found. Government always put a target there so they can squeeze money and power from people. Al Qaida becomes an universal excuse. Here is another phantom.

    2.3. 07.07.18. Leader of Al Qaeda group in Iraq was fictional, U.S. military says

    By Michael R. Gordon
    Published: July 18, 2007

    BAGHDAD: For more than a year, the leader of one the most notorious insurgent groups in Iraq was said to be a mysterious Iraqi named Abdullah Rashid al-Baghdadi.

    As the titular head of the Islamic State in Iraq, an organization publicly backed by Al Qaeda, Baghdadi issued a steady stream of incendiary pronouncements. Despite claims by Iraqi officials that he had been killed in May, Baghdadi appeared to have persevered unscathed.

    On Wednesday, a senior American military spokesman provided a new explanation for Baghdadi's ability to escape attack: He never existed.

    Brigadier General Kevin Bergner, the chief American military spokesman, said the elusive Baghdadi was actually a fictional character whose audio-taped declarations were provided by an elderly actor named Abu Adullah al-Naima.

    "First, they say we have killed him," Riedel said, referring to the statements by some Iraqi government officials. "Then we heard him after his death and now they are saying he never existed. That suggests that our intelligence on Al Qaeda in Iraq is not what we want it to be."

    http://b.casalemedia.com/V2/67072/1...mormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=106780
     
  12. kathaksung

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    "Al Qaeda does not exist and never has
    8/19/2004

    The basic truth is that Al Qaeda does not exist and never has. Al Qaeda is a manufactured enemy who was created by the Bush Administration in order to have an excuse to wage a war for the control of the world's oil resources.

    Did an American even hear the words "Al Qaeda" before 9-11? Or were we told that its alleged leader Osama Bin Laden has family who themselves have personal business relationships with George W. Bush's family and that both families had financially profited conside

    http://english.pravda.ru/mailbox/22/101/397/13821_AlQaeda.html
     
  13. Aballister

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    Well actually a quick fact-check confirmed that Al-Quaeda claimed responsibility for the 1994 World Trade Center bombing. They even fought Russia in 1989, that's aproximately 12 years before 9/11. Do you research your lenghty posts, or do you simply cut and paste whatever bullshit your weak mind passes for truth?
     
  14. BullGod666

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    You've gone too far this time wizard, assuming that one has a mind.:biggrin:
     
  15. kathaksung

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    What you talk about is Mujahideem.

    Al Qaida and Mujahedeen

    Bin Laden was an asset of CIA and was used to fight against Soviet Union in 80s. At that time Bin Laden's group was called as Majahideen. Qaida was used as a data base in communiction.

    In early 90, when Soviet Union collapsed, US intelligence turned its resource on to Mid-east countries which are rich in oil resource, they revive the retired asset - Bin Laden. Bin Laden returned to Islamic world trying to provoke a conflict so that US could justify an interference and invasion.

    In 2001, when US inside group had their puppet Bush to be the president, the war was ready. 911 was done to justify the war. To prevent people to link the "terror attack" with Islamic fannatic (Mujahedeen) and CIA, US intelligence then starts to use "Al Qaida" as "terrorist" group to justify the "war on terror". Since then, they blame every terror attack on "Al qaida". Al Qaida could be viewed as a group of special opratives commanded by US intelligence. Their mission is to activate false flag terror attack on civilians to justify US military action.

    What Al Qaida did - bombing WTC, killing US civilians on 911, and bombing innocent civilians in Iraq, all targetted at ordinary people. It tarnished Islam as savage, inhuman, cruel. Who benefited? Who expanded the police power by Patriot Act? Who got fat budget? If you can answer these questions, then you know what is Al Qaida - a tool of US intelligence.
     
  16. kathaksung

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    Top Ranking CIA Operatives Admit Al-qaeda Is a Complete Fabrication
    3/8/2008

    'In the BBC’s killer documentary called The Power of Nightmares, top CIA officials openly admit, Al-Qaeda is a total and complete fabrication, never having existed at any time. The Bush administration needed a reason that complied with the Laws so they could go after “the bad guy of their choice” namely laws that had been set in place to protect us from mobs and “criminal organizations” such as the Mafia. They paid Jamal al Fadl, hundred’s of thousands of dollars to back the U.S. Governments story of Al-qaeda a “group” or criminal organization they could “legally” go after.'

    Watch video here:
    http://polidics.com/cia/top-ranking-cia-operatives-admit-al-qaeda-is-a-complete-fabrication.html
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAUDcmaJNWQ&feature=related
     
  17. kathaksung

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    There Is No 'Al Qaeda' - Ex UK Foreign Secretary

    12-22-8

    "The truth is, there is no Islamic army or terrorist group called Al Qaida. And any informed intelligence officer knows this. But there is a propaganda campaign to make the public believe in the presence of an identified entity representing the 'devil' only in order to drive the TV watcher to accept a unified international leadership for a war against terrorism. The country behind this propaganda is the US . . ."


    -- Former British Foreign Secretary Robin Cook
    Robin Cook died in August 2005 of a severe heart attack while mountain climbing in Scotland.

    Wikipedia wrote:Robert Finlayson Cook (28 February 1946 - 6 August 2005), better known as Robin Cook, was a politician in the British Labour Party. He was Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs of the United Kingdom from 1997 to 2001. He resigned from his post as Leader of the House of Commons and Lord President of the Council on 17 March 2003 in protest against the 2003 invasion of Iraq. At the time of his death he was president of the Foreign Policy Centre and a vice-president of the America All Party Parliamentary Group and the Global Security and Non-Proliferation All Party Parliamentary Group...

    In a column for the Guardian four weeks before his death, Cook caused a stir when he described Al-Qaeda as a product of a western intelligence:

    “ Bin Laden was, though, a product of a monumental miscalculation by western security agencies. Throughout the 80s he was armed by the CIA and funded by the Saudis to wage jihad against the Russian occupation of Afghanistan. Al-Qaida, literally "the database", was originally the computer file of the thousands of mujahideen who were recruited and trained with help from the CIA to defeat the Russians.[13] ”

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=11487
     
  18. kathaksung

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    Al Qaida and real Islam resistence are treated differently.

    The real Islam resistence are put to Quantanamo where they are tortured. Like Zhubadah was waterboarded. But he is not Al Qaida.

    The hired tool such like Moussaoui, Bin Laden, Al Zarqawi all played a strong role to show that Al Qaida is cruel, inhuman. They aimed at common people, either its Americans or Iraqis. What they have done is to justify Bush's war policy. Any benefit to Islam? None. So Bin Laden can never been eliminated. From time to time he issued a tape when Bush needs it. A false flag that helps a lot to neocon but did nothing good to Muslim. That is Al Qaida. That's why Moussaoui cried in court, "I'm Al Qaida." Because Feds need someone to prove 911 was done by Islamic extremist not government insiders.

    Zubaydah, the man CIA used to justify the waterboarding that he confessed in 35 seconds after waterboarding, has a story here.

    Zubaydah Denies al-Qaida Link

    WASHINGTON (AP) - Abu Zubaydah, accused of being a senior al-Qaida operative, says he has been a U.S enemy since childhood but isn't a member of the terrorist group or an associate of Osama bin Laden.

    Zubaydah also told a military hearing in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, that he had been tortured in U.S. custody and confessed to things he did not do, according to a Pentagon transcript released Monday.

    Zubaydah said that from 1994 to about 2000 he was a facilitator at guest houses in Pakistan, where he helped Muslims get to Afghanistan's Khalden training camp for "defensive jihad'' - that is to fight against forces that invade Muslim lands anywhere. He then helped send the trained militants on to Bosnia, Chechnya and elsewhere, he said.

    "The statement that I was an associate of Osama bin Laden is false,'' Zubaydah is quoted as saying by the transcript of his March 27 hearing. "I'm not his partner and I'm not a member of al-Qaida.''
    http://www.libertyforum.org/showfla...view=collapsed&sb=6&o=21&part=1#Post295965365
     
  19. Lomotil

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    You still haven't told me where to acquire East German made AK-47's.

    FAIL.

    :frown:
     
  20. Joeslogic

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    He is a foreigner obsessed with American conspiracy. Coincidentally his country of origin never conspired about anything. :rolleyes:

    But he spews his conspiracy all over the place on different forums dutifully regurgitating all over the internet like Linda Blair in The Exorcist.

     

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