Commander-in-chief of the US Military files charges against Navy SEALs

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  1. Joeslogic

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    Navy SEALs Face Assault Charges for Capturing Most-Wanted Terrorist

    Navy SEALs have secretly captured one of the most wanted terrorists in Iraq — the alleged mastermind of the murder and mutilation of four Blackwater USA security guards in Fallujah in 2004. And three of the SEALs who captured him are now facing criminal charges

    You see under Obama's rule as emperor of the United States the military is subject to his laws instead of the Geneva Convention rules.

    So since one terrorist showed up captured with a busted lip and the other said he was punched in the gut then that is assault. Apparently they did not read the terrorist his Miranda rights as an un-American citizen on foreign soil.
     
  2. Aballister

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    The article doesn't make mention of Obama. These SEALs are obviously victims of bureaucracy; even though they did falsify reports. I don't think they should be punished considering that the wounds on the detainee were minor at best, but falsifying documents still remains a no-no.
    I would oppose these soldiers getting demoted or receiving punishment.

    On the other hand, blaming Obama for every single little things going on in the country and abroad is a little unfair. The left was very critical of Bush during his administration, unfairly so. From my perspective this is what the right is turning into. Policies and the good of the people are tossed to the trash just to make a cheap political point. Republicans will oppose democrats on every single policies even if some are good. Nobody is dumb enough to think that democrats are 100% rotten to the core, some of them are good politician striving for the good of their constituents. To the contrary of what the media would have you believe.
     
  3. Cheezedawg

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    Joe..... stop being crazy.

    Please.
     
  4. Joeslogic

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    WRONG

    It was Obama and his AG that decided military matters and terrorist the military deals with fall under the jurisdiction od the united states court system and that terrorist have the same rights as American citizens.

    If you two are too stupid to understand that I feel sorry for the both of you. And I do not care if KSM gets told by the judge to STFU and sit down and then fifteen minutes later is hung from a tree in central park it means nothing a precedent has been set by Obama to try military matters in civilian court.
     
  5. Cheezedawg

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    Why give them a trial at all, Joe? Why don't we just assume they are guilty of being "terrorists" and shoot them in the back of the head? I truly don't care where they are tried or how. As long as we discover their guilt or innocence and act accordingly.

    The age of GWB holding suspects indefintely without a trial are over. So what if we give them American rights? Are they still not entitled to "human rights" until found guilty? I know I wouldn't want to be imprisoned or murdered when I hadn't done anything wrong.
     
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    Elevating ourselves above their level is what makes north-america a beacon of fairness and justice. But I guess wanting "human rights" for prisonners make us stupid.

    Don't forget to bleach and hang dry your hood Joe.
     
  7. Joeslogic

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    Yeah right, :rolleyes: strong accusations from someone who gets a kick out of Kick a Jew day.

    Military tribunals are fair and give human rights to a person terrorist or other. But it does not give terrorist a podium and it does not give politicians room to use the media and the public courts to attack a political opponent.

    There is only one reason Obama wants to attack the Navy Seals and that is to likewise attack a political opponent. Not to mention the liberals despise the military.
     
  8. Aballister

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    The good ol' "liberals hate the army" talking point. You're starting to show your true colours; those of a shallow talking point spewer. Blah blah liberals hate the army, blah blah Obama is socialist blah.
     
  9. Cheezedawg

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    Joe```STOP BEING INSANE!!! LIBERALS DO NOT HATE THE mILITARY!!
     
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    Then explain the logic for trying KSM in the American public court system.

    Explain the logic for giving foreign terrorist the rights of an American citizen.
     
  11. Joeslogic

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    So this is how it works:

    http://www.nbc-2.com/global/Category.asp?c=170893&autoStart=true&topVideoCatNo=default&clipId=4326148&flvUri=&partnerclipid=


    one-day in-school suspension for “Kick a Jew Day”

    But is you risk your life bringing the terrorist who told the news commentators to hold the film until they poured diesel fuel on a hummer and lit it on fire and after roasting Americans in a vehicle then hoisted them on a bridge.

    Yes that's right the news stopped filming their broadcast till the terrorist could set the stage for the news show.

    This show:









    So the smug America hating smart ass terrorist knowing that his Muslim brother is in the WhiteHouse says the SEALs gave him a fat lip.

    Yeah Obama and the Liberals that are sitting silent on their hands or worse yet not voicing outrage like the Conservatives are about this. You ask do they hate American military. Their actions speak louder than words.
     
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  12. Cheezedawg

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    No Joe They do not hate the military! A liberal fought world war 2 for us! A wonderful liberal! FDR
     
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    Against the wishes of his chief military adviser FDR decided to place the whole Pacific fleet into one small bay on the island of Hawaii.

    As a matter of fact he fired the guy and hired one who would agree to the strategy.

    FDR was in his third year and public sentiment was against involvement that WW2 was not our war. FDR did not want to take action without the public backing. After Pearl Harbor he had the public behind the war effort.

    A memo was uncovered outlining an eight point strategy involving putting the Pacific fleet in Pearl Harbor to provoke the Japanese to take advantage of this foolish strategy. the reason was that America's policy at the time was against a preemptive strike against a perceived foe. All eight points in that memo were coincidentally followed through to the "t".

    I'm not saying that is what happened but do you remember all the conspiracy about it?

    No you do not.

    FDR was a Democrat.
     
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    Joe, your hatred for liberals and democrats clouds your reasonning abilities to an alarming point. I used to respect your point of view but now you ressemble the usual lunatics commenting on a youtube video. If even FDR isn't good enough for you, then it's fucking pointless to talk to you. The drunk guy that stands at my street corner yelling at cats probably makes more sense right now than you.
     
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    Let me quote myself.

    You have miss quoted me more than a few times now and it is getting cumbersome. Earlier I made some valid points called no one a name and insulted no one. Then your reply was that all I do is result to name calling any insults. Hate the message not the messenger.

    The point is, and you will see this theme throughout my postings is that the world view of Democraps is tainted by an extremely biased media that squelches any information getting out that does not compliment the liberal reputation.

    Fact of the matter is FDR extended the great depression far beyond the natural cycle turning a v shaped recovery into lasting ~eight years beyond what it should have. Obama has done worse he has already blown billions and with nothing what so ever to show except money in the pockets of his friends.

    FDR = nothing to brag about.

    Obama = (FDR -1.4 Trillion)
     
  17. Aballister

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    Oh sure... and there isn't any conservative bias in the media. You're ridiculous to think that liberals are just repeating what the liberal media says. I've seen you quote Rush Limbaugh, FoxNews, and Bill O'reilly just to name a few. So spare us your sanctimonious attitude.
    You've misquoted me as well. Heck, in an earlier post you even modified what I had originally said.
    Conservatives have a short memory.
     
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    Why is the media in full attack mode against Tiger Woods?

    This speech he presented at the Lincoln Memorial in Washington, D.C. during the festivities for the presidential inauguration.

    Rather then sing praises to Obama he sang praises to the military and his dad.

    This really pissed off Obama and his media henchmen. From that point forward he went from goldenboy to a mark with a target on his back.

    Media left wing bias? OH HELL YEAH!
     
  19. Aballister

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    You missed the point of my post Joe. The point is not that there isn't a liberal bias; the point is that it's hypocritical for you to complain about it.
    There are biases, on both sides of the fence. When Bush was in power his administration went after dissenters and now that Obama is in the White House his goons go after the critics. It's the exact same thing.
    What I don't like is idiots complaining about the liberal media's effort to protect Obama when not so long ago it was the other way around.
    Like I said before; conservatives tend to have a short memory.
     
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    Uh, I cant think of one time when the 'liberal media' or any other media for that matter actually covered anything up for Bush.

    Of course everyone knows that WMDs were never found in Iraq. Well as long as nerve gas isnt considered a wmd, I guess you could ask the kurds for their interpretation of what an wmd is.

    Then again with the pussy pandering of the UN and its candy ass approach to actually inspecting and then going in to Iraq, I dont know lets give them 6 months to move all their shit to Syria. Maybe the socialist media in Canada only provides its citizens with their version of the truth.

    I guess if you have never been on the ground in one of the biggest cess pools in the world its hard to get a feel for its people. Or what is being done for them. Then again it is easy to judge sitting in your living room smoking a fresh pipe of herb, or even a cuban then judge someone from the comfort of your couch. It's cool. We get it.
     

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