Stand by your/there man

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Joeslogic, Sep 17, 2009.

  1. Joeslogic

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    When the president pledges missile defense against Iran.

    Stand by your man after all he is the president.

    President Obama on April 5, 2009:
    And BTW I fully agree missile defense makes good good sense.

    When he changes his mind and abandons Eastern European Allies at th4e request of Pootin.

    Stand by your man after all he is the president.

    If Obama turns his back on Europe then we should to as a show of solidarity.

    Stand by your man after all he is the president and our comrade.

    So when you see headlines like this:

    U.S. scraps missile defense shield plans

    Understand that Russia is our comrade also.

    That is why it is appropriate to announce such a thing on the date of the 70 year anniversary of the Soviet invasion of Poland.

    If you disagree please try to understand it is your racism that vile and disgusting thing within you that taints your thought process.

    So lets just try to be civil and remember not to speak against the motherland.
     
  2. Joeslogic

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    There their meh whats the difference?
     
  3. Cheezedawg

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    I also agree we need a missle defense plan. I just don't think we need it in Europe. Why dont our allies get their own missle defense plan? Putin is happy with our decision to not put them in. Why is Iran such a threat to us? I've never been threatened by an Iranian. Russia is our friend. I spent my entire childhood terrified of Russians and for what?!? They never did a damn thing to me. If the president doesn't want to spend our money putting defenses in Europe, I'll support that decision. If he decides to put them there later... I guess I'll support that too. But I won't like it.
     
  4. Cheezedawg

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    From what I understand, Obama plans to use interceptors both land and sea based to defend against ballistic missles. He claims this will be more cost effective and provides military flexibility. So not only will these planes protect our allies in Europe, they can also be deployed for other purposes when not shooting down missles.

    Not that Iran will actually fire nuclear weapons at anyone. Can you imagine the ass whoopin that be layed down on them if they did?
     
  5. Joeslogic

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    Iranian president raises stakes against Israel

    By Parisa Hafezi and Firouz Sedarat

    TEHRAN (Reuters) - President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad raised the stakes against Israel on Friday and called the Holocaust a lie, just as world powers try to decide how to deal with the nuclear ambitions of an Iran in political turmoil.

    "The pretext (Holocaust) for the creation of the Zionist regime (Israel) is false ... It is a lie based on an unprovable and mythical claim," he told worshippers at Tehran University at the end of an annual anti-Israel "Qods (Jerusalem) Day" rally.

    "Confronting the Zionist regime is a national and religious duty."

    Ahmadinejad's anti-Western comments on the Holocaust have caused international outcry and isolated Iran, which is at loggerheads with the West over its nuclear programme.

    The hardline president warned leaders of Western-allied Arab and Muslim countries about dealing with Israel.

    "This regime (Israel) will not last long. Do not tie your fate to it ... This regime has no future. Its life has come to an end," he said in a speech broadcast live on state radio.
     
  6. Joeslogic

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    http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/hoekstra_missile_defense/2009/09/18/262067.html

    "One of the things that the governments in these countries did was they took great risks when they bought into this strategy with the previous administration, with the Bush administration. I think that this can be perceived now as pulling the rug out from some of our allies.

    "We're kind of coddling the Russians, and the intelligence that supposedly backs up this change in strategy hasn't been presented to Congress yet. You would think that before the president would make this kind of announcement, he would share this intelligence with the Intelligence Committee, with the Armed Services Committee, with the Foreign Relations Committees, so that we would have a better understanding as to why he's implementing this new policy. We don’t have that yet.

    "So I'm going to have to withhold final judgment until we have access to the intelligence that supposedly the president has had access to."

    Martella asked if the administration's decision intensifies the missile threat from Iran.

    "The bottom line is we don't have perfect insight into exactly what's going on in Iran or what their capabilities are," Hoekstra responded.

    On Thursday a leaked report from the International Atomic Energy Agency discussed "what Iran's nuclear capabilities may or may not be," Hoekstra disclosed.

    "It's kind of a disturbing indication in that it alludes to the possibility that perhaps they're closer to a nuclear weapon than what maybe was thought."

    Referring to reports that Russia will now cooperate more with the U.S. regarding Iran's nuclear program, Hoekstra said: "I just met with a person who's an expert on Russia. Her indications were, if you're going to get something from the Russians, make sure you get it in writing before you close the deal.

    "This looks one where President Obama may have stepped out believing he's acting in good faith and the Russians will reciprocate...

    "I hope this makes the Russians more cooperative, but then again let's verify that this is actually going to happen. I'm somewhat skeptical that it will.

    "The Russians have now gotten what they want to have and we've given it to them before we've asked them to do anything. I'm not sure I trust the Russians to change their attitude as regards to us working together on Iran."

    Martella noted that Poland's ministry of defense has called the cancellation of the missile defense plans "catastrophic for Poland and all free nations."

    "I think they've got a point," Hoekstra said.

    "They were a very close ally. Their government took risks in accepting and moving forward with this strategy.

    "Clearly they were doing it in their own self-interest, but they also believe that this was the appropriate thing to do with a very very good friend, the United States of America. Good friends don't necessarily treat each other the way the United States has just treated Poland...

    "What this forces our allies to do is to go back and assess whether the United States is a reliable partner and a reliable ally."
     
  7. Joeslogic

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    Even though your president has nothing on his job resume except working as a "Community Organizer" teaching people how to break the law.

    Stand by your president cause damn it he is your president.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2k5Yi5pboA
     
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    When your president uses his website to funnel radical activist into his organized crime syndicate ACORN

    Stand by your president after all he is your president.

    http://biggovernment.com/2009/09/18/taxpayer-funded-serve-gov-filtering-activists-to-acorn/

    by Dana Loesch

    The Obama Administration has placed a large premium on what it calls “national service.” It has launched a website, www.Serve.gov, that is reported to act as a clearing house for Americans eager to “give back” to their communities. Unfortunately, Americans looking for an opportunity to volunteer may get something they weren’t expecting.

    By typing “ACORN” into the search field entitled “What interests you” at Serve.gov, you’re transported to allforgood.org where you can choose from a list of volunteer opportunities, including “healthcare activist.” This particular “volunteer” opportunity is with the Tuscon ACORN office:

    They’re unclear regarding financial reimbursement; though past recruitment, like the Craigslist ads in St. Louis, advertised for “paid progressive activists, $90 a day, call Lorna 314-732-0131.”

    Your tax dollars at work, America. Living the sweet life on taxpayer dollars while using federal funding to advertise for volunteer opportunities to promote the President’s health care legislation.

    Pro-Obama activism is the new welfare.

    If health care isn’t your bag, ACORN has other opportunities available via Serve.gov, opportunities like a “community organizing internship,” a “neighborhood canvasser,” or a “tax preparer.” Here’s an opportunity to get out the vote in Ohio. Unlike some listings, this one is directly on the Serve.gov site:

    So after they assist you in procuring housing for your brothel of underage girls, ACORN can also assist you in skirting your taxes, in keeping with the law of probability.

    Serve.gov is just one of many projects managed by the Corporation for National and Community Service, a federal agency which oversees various government service agencies, including Americorps, the outfit at the center of the fired IG scandal.

    CNCS was established in 1993 “to connect Americans of all ages and backgrounds with opportunities to give back to their communities and their nation.” It also operates the Serve.gov website, which defines itself as:

    “your online resource for not only finding volunteer opportunities in your community, but also creating your own. Use Serve.gov to help you do your part. America’s foundation will be built one community at a time – and it starts with you.”

    Since when does America’s foundation require rebuilding? The idea that our country requires an overhaul at the hands of an out-of-control federal government is disturbing – especially when our government is using a taxpayer-supported website to match activists to opportunities so as to promote the President’s agenda.
     
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    You are truly insane, Joe. I just thought you were brainwashed. But you really are nuts. To claim that ACORN is the presidents personal crime syndicate? ACORN is just your boogie-man. Be happy some of their members fucked up and got the funding cut. This is a HUGE victory for republicans. Don't hate. Celebrate! I know that I am! I hated ACORN from day one.
     
  11. Joeslogic

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    When the history of Iran's Russia-backed military and nuclear buildup is repeating itself almost identically in Venezuela.

    Stand by you president after all he is the president.


    Venezuela's Chavez aims to tap nuclear energy

    By IAN JAMES (AP) – 3 days ago

    CARACAS, Venezuela — Hugo Chavez wants to join the nuclear energy club and is looking to Russia for help in getting started.

    The Venezuelan leader is already dismissing critics' concerns over his nuclear ambitions, offering assurances his aims are peaceful and that Venezuela will simply be following in the footsteps of other South American nations using nuclear energy.

    Yet his project remains in its planning stages and still faces a host of practical hurdles, likely requiring billions of dollars, as well as technology and expertise that Venezuela lacks.

    Russia has offered to help bridge that gap, and Chavez has announced that the two countries have created an atomic energy commission.

    When President Obama abandons the legal democratic elected leader of Honduras. While propping up an illegal Socialist dictator wannabe.

    Stand by your president if he believes in Socialism then you must embrace Socialism and dictatorships that is unless you are some racist bigot.


    Ahmadinejad, Chavez, Gaddafi, Castro Allowed Into US For UN General Assembly But Honduran Leader Banned (Video)

    Ahmadinejad, Chavez, Gaddafi, Castro Allowed Into US For UN General Assembly But Honduran Leader Banned (Video)
    Next week the Obama Administration will allow Ahmadinejad, Castro, Chavez, Gaddafi and several other international thugs into New York City to speak in front of the United Nations General Assembly. However, one country's president will not be allowed into the United States.

    President Roberto Micheletti from Honduras will not be allowed to enter into America. The Obama Administration revoked his visa back in July.

    For the first time in our nation's history, the Obama administration is siding with Marxist leaders Hugo Chavez, Daniel Ortega, Raul Castro and Evo Morales in condemning our democratic ally Honduras.

    Temporary Suspension of Non-Immigrant Visa Services in Honduras


    Ian Kelly
    Department Spokesman
    Washington, DC
    August 25, 2009


    The OAS Foreign Ministers mission is in Honduras seeking support for the San Jose Accord, which would restore the democratic and constitutional order and resolve the political crisis in Honduras. In support of this mission and as a consequence of the de facto regime’s reluctance to sign the San Jose Accord, the U.S. Department of State is conducting a full review of our visa policy in Honduras. As part of that review, we are suspending non-emergency, non-immigrant visa services in the consular section of our embassy in Honduras, effective August 26. We firmly believe a negotiated solution is the appropriate way forward and the San Jose Accord is the best solution.
     
  12. Cheezedawg

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    I would respond.... but I know nothing about Honduras.

    I would try to learn both sides of the arguement.... but I don't care.

    I would take your word for it on this issue....

    BUT YOU ARE A NUTTY CAKE!
     
  13. Joeslogic

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    OK then there you have it do not care about what you are not told to care about and and do not learn about anything people like Keith Olberman, Bill Myers, or any of the five or so liberal networks deem it appropriate for you to learn about.
     
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    You criticize those assholes for putting a liberal slant on everything. But you put a conservative slant on everything. Where exactly does the truth lie? I prefer to gather all my info from non-biased sources and then make my determination once I've reviewed all the facts. If new information comes to light, I have no problem changed my stance on any issue. Can you say the same? You really come across as a guy who would defend a horrible decision to the end if it served the conservative agenda.
     
  15. Joeslogic

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    Nope I'm an Independent. I would say a Libertarian but there are too many nuts screwing up the Libertarian image.

    Can you point out specifically any Conservative spin I put on an issue?

    Remember for me to be spinning would be for me to delineate away from the truth.
     
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    Yes. How about that headline that talked about michigan workers losing their jobs "thanks to Obama". How about thanks to Bush? Thats a more accurate slogan... though not entirely true either.

    We have to remember that we are in the same boat together here in America. 1% of this country has more wealth than the bottom 95%. When bad things happen to the wealthy... they are bailed out. When bad things happen to the rest of us.... we die.

    We've been brought up to believe that hard work is rewarded. Untrue. We were told we can go as far as we want in America. Not True. Not while our lives are been run by the top 1% of this nation. And they have no desire to give it up. Or let us in.
     
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    A very wise person once said

    Care to guess who?
     
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    ^ wtf? God, I hate teachers that do this kind of crap.
     
  20. Cheezedawg

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    It makes me sick to see kids Brainwashed. They have no idea what they are saying really. They are just having their minds conditioned to love Obama.

    However, I'm positive Obama had nothing to do with this. This was the doing of some asshole teacher pushing her views onto kids who don't know better.

    Remember how we were all conditioned to say the pledge of alliegence? Put your right hand over your heart and swear dedication to a piece of cloth? How we were always told that "This is the best country in the world!" How did we know that? How do we know that now? Have we lived in all the other countries of the earth?

    JFK once said "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what YOU can do for your country." What the fuck?!? I'm supposed to give up my life and do whatever else an inanimate piece of land wants me to do? Wasn't he just saying "Do whatever the govenment says so WE at the top can benefit from your sacrafice?" It's amazing how many of my friends have died in Iraq doing what their country wanted them to. And at every funeral, the parents are always saying "I wish he never went there." Not "He died for his country. I'm so proud to have a son like him."

    I've never said Obama is the hero we've been searching for. I'm saying he is the president and let's give him a chance to make things right. If he fails, we'll give someone else a chance until we get it right. After this last administration, he already has the deck stacked against him. As long as he keeps trying to help the American people and not just himself and his buddies, I will continue to support his decisions.
     

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