Obama Tax Plan

Discussion in 'More Serious Topics' started by phatboy, Aug 7, 2008.

  1. phatboy

    phatboy New Member

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    Got this in an eMail today, havent verified it, but what the heck.

     
  2. Lomotil

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    But... but... "He's change... we... can... believe... in...?"

    :rolleyes:

    I hope McCain nails him to the wall in the debates.
     
  3. BullGod666

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    He never said "change for the better." Time to stock up on guns and ammo just in case Obama gets elected.
     
  4. phatboy

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    The debates are going to be fun. I hope they have some 'open forum' questions. Not just a bunch of rehearsed answers like usual.
     
  5. JEFE

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  6. JEFE

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    It's also listed under Urban Legends on Snopes. But if you read the details here: http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/would_obama_tax_my_profits_if_i.html It's true. He'll raise the ever living shit out of taxes, just not AS much as that email says. Like, "UP to 28%" on capital gains instead of "28%".

    See? Nothing to worry about. :mad:

    Somebody said something funny that I read the other day:
    The question was, "what's the difference between democrats and republicans?" and this guy answered, "A Republican is a Democrat who's been mugged. A Democrat is a Republican who's been arrested."

    I thought that was good.
     
  7. Lomotil

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    Does it fucking matter? Really?

    The author of the initial email itself wanted to alert the misinformed/uneducated majority as to just how different the Liberal/Conservative agenda is. Whether or not the email was based on strict, documented numbers is inconsequential. Whomever originated this was obviously trying to spread the word of the stance that the Democratic party takes when it comes to "what the government is entitled to" vs. the Republican modus operandi, which, is more conductive towards the reward for personal achievement, and the benefit associated with it.

    I would hope that anyone that has studied economics, and is a legal voter, can make the obvious association between Obama (or any Liberal/Democrat,) and Socialism. The problem is that we have so many fucking misinformed, uninformed, easily led, or just downright fucking stupid voters that have the ability to cast their media-influenced, purchased vote toward the 'Democratic' party.

    If I were raising a child, and were asked the question "What's the difference between a Republican and a Democrat?" I would answer it as follows:

    I can't fucking come to grips with how many people have been brainwashed, cornwalled, and stuck in the Obama camp because Jessica Alba makes a cameo in his commercials.

    Oh, and "Bullgod666" - I have been. Trust me. :)
     
  8. phatboy

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    I was at my sons open house last night and this jack ass comes in wearing a 'change we can believe in' t-shirt. I just wanted to go over to him and say, "that shirts the shit yo, where you get dat at? I heard if he elected we aints nevah gunna have to work agin''

    I like it when my 8 year old asks questions about the election and I can answer them as unbiased as possible and even he sees the reality of the situation. The his dumb ass cousin tells him that if obama is elected he is going to paint the white house black. I had to explain to my son that his cousin is a retard and to not ever talk to her again.

    up to 28%? So if I profit 60k over my current mortgage when I sell my house, that I have 'lived' in for over 2 years I could pay up to almost 17,000.00 in taxes? So now, my hard work, and money (that I paid taxes on all ready) that went into restoring and remodeling this house to get it back to its 1920s magnificense goes away, all the time put into it is worth nothing.

    You cant write off expenses on a house you live in for repairs. Its not like a rental, that you can write off the cost of upkeep.

    I guess I am so tired of taxes right now I might move to that island that brando bought.

    I could be crazy, but if the south would have won the war of northern aggression slavery wouldnt have been around forever. It would have gone away on its own (please dont think that when R.E. Lee signed the line at Appomatics Court House that slavery was instantly ended). The bigger picture is that the South wanted a stronger state government and a weak federal government. Let the states take care of themselves, but still be united as a country when it came to other matters (wars mostly).

    There was legislation not to long ago in the Georgia house that proposed all Georgia residents would stop paying federal taxes on their pay checks, and would not file annual income tax papers with the IRS. The state would withold taxes (at a higher rate than current state taxes) and then send the amount the state saw fit to the federal government. It was a beautiful plan. I think the main concern was the amount of federal taxes the working population pays out annually compared to the amount of federal funds the state sees in return. The plan made a ton of sense and think of the overhead you could cut by doing so?

    One day.......
     
  9. BullGod666

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    Many Americans must really believe that the proposals Obama has made for healthcare and so many other things are free. Someone has to pay for all the hand-outs, that would be us. My sphincter tightens just thinking about how big a tucking we're going to take with Obama in office.

    And "Lomo," so have I. :biggrin:
     
  10. Lomotil

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    One thing I'm pissed at the current administration for is their neglect to abolish that inane 'inheritance tax' - Always seemed like 'double jeapordy' to me. The notion that someone's documented accrual of wealth, which was obviously taxed in the first place, all of a sudden is subject to additional taxing once it changes hands within a family? Fucking ridiculous.

    For three years, I lived in Rhode Island as a child, and there was a mansion called the "Breakers Mansion" (sp?) - it was rumored to have underground tunnels, complete with shackles, that extended to the coast, so that the slave trade could carry on long before (and after) the end of the Civil War.

    I can't personally confirm this, but it certainly isn't outside the realm of probability.

    Not a bad idea, really... I doubt it would've flied at the national level (but if it didn't, what would they do, honestly? Revoke their statehood?)

    I'm happy to live in one of the last bastions of seclusion from excess hindrance, as we pay no state income taxes here...
     
  11. Lomotil

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    Be careful speaking of compressible sphincters when we've got a Democrat in orifice... err, I mean, 'office.'

    As far as 'stocking up' goes - the AK should be in this week (if not, I'm going to be really pissed,) and I'm seriously looking into buying a FN five-seven (the li'l sister, not the original P-90,) and after that, look into the loopholes involved in acquiring one of those 'Super Shorty" 12-ga shotguns--before I can't legally do so.

    If you've got some thoughts on things you expect to become outlawed soon, LMK... I'm trying to concentrate on things that won't be so easy to acquire in the very near future.
     
  12. bendover

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    America as a whole can't afford O-bomb-us.
     
  13. Lomotil

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    Coming from someone that chose the dignified screenname "bendover" - I can't help but lend a bit of credibility to your post. It takes balls to post here. Congrats on having yours finally drop.
     
  14. BullGod666

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    I hope your AK comes in right this time, post some picks when you get it. The super shorty looks like a pistol, maybe it's governed by pistol laws and not long gun laws.
     
  15. Lomotil

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    I'll definitely be posting some pics... Not to worry, not to worry...

    And apparently, since the "Super-Shorty" came from the factory with a pistol grip, it can be modified to a shorter barrel length without being *entirely* illegal. They classify it as a "AOW" (Any Other Weapon) - and you have to go through a few loopholes to get it, I could talk about them, or just give you the copied text:

    I don't live in one of the above mentioned states. :)
     
  16. phatboy

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    Isnt there a law that you have to own at least one gun per person in a household in Texas?
    Kinda like the life vests in a boat, got to have one for everyone...
     
  17. BullGod666

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    I was looking at them on GunsAmerica.com last night and saw that you needed a $5 dollar tax stamp to get it, shouldn't be too bad. I have friends with suppressed handguns and machine guns, it's just a matter of getting finger printed, a couple of signatures, pay the federal tax, and away you go.
     
  18. Lomotil

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    I consider every pet in my household as a 'person' - when I get around to counting fish, I estimate needing another 30-40 firearms to meet that requirement... :biggrin:

    Thanks! I needed a good, concrete excuse for expanding my collection! :)
     
  19. Lomotil

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    I've been reading up on the laws, buying a few things here and there, and working on securing that coveted hookup on a Sheriff or Police Chief to simplify things, sign the forms, etc. with the ultimate purpose of legally acquiring some "AOW" pieces. (This includes silencers, suppressors, rifles under 16", numerous carbines, etc...)

    Hell, the last gun I bought (the Five-seveN) was purchased from a partner in a law firm, former State Attorney, and still didn't know that a firearm can be transferred from one individual to another without any registration/background checks/etc.

    It's a quite amusing when you have to provide links to the state's website proving this - to an attorney.
     
  20. BullGod666

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    You can never have too many guns or too many cars, but one woman, most times, is one too many.
     

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