If this is true Bush has gone to far

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  1. TheGrimJesus

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    The September 6 raid over Syria was in fact carried out by the US Air Force, Al-Jazeera's Web site reported in Arabic Friday, quoting unnamed Israeli and Arab sources as saying that two strategic US jets armed with tactical nuclear weapons executed the attack on a nuclear site under construction.

    The sources were quoted as saying that Israeli F-15 and F-16 jets only provided cover for the US fighter-bombers, which carried one tactical nuclear weapon apiece. The site was hit by one bomb and totally destroyed. The use of nukes might account for the fact that the suspected plant was effectively erased from the earth, with few if any traces remaining, according to satellite photos.

    On October 28, Prime Minister Ehud Olmert told the cabinet that he had apologized to Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan if the Israeli airplanes violated Turkish airspace during a strike on an alleged nuclear facility in Syria last month:"In my conversation with the Turkish prime minister, I told him that if Israeli planes indeed penetrated Turkish airspace, then there was no intention thereby, either in advance or in any case, to -- in any way -- violate or undermine Turkish sovereignty, which we respect."

    It is now generally believed that the target of the September 6 raid was a partly constructed nuclear reactor in Dayr-a-Sawr in notheastern Syria. On October 17, Syria denied that one of its representatives to the United Nations told a panel that an Israeli air strike hit a Syrian nuclear facility and added that "such facilities do not exist in Syria."

    If the facilities were wiped out by Israelis or Americans, that statement would be correct, in the present tense. However, a A UN document released by the press office paraphrased an unnamed Syrian representative as saying that a nuclear facility was indeed hit by the raid. The state-run Syrian Arab News Agency, SANA later claimed that media reports, apparently based on a UN press release, misquoted the Syrian diplomat.

    If the Al-Jazeera report is true, it would be the first use of nuclear weapons in the world for a non-test purpose since the destruction of Hiroshima and Nagasaki in 1945.


    http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Security/12309.htm

    When asked about the "Isreali air strike upon Syria" by reporters, President Bush said simply "We will have no comment on that."

    Really if this is the case. Bush needs to be put under the jail.
     
  2. phatboy

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    http://www.mcculloughsite.net/stingray/2007/10/18/syria-israel-targeted-nuclear-facility.php

    Good read, says US involvement was limited to radar jamming. Which sounds more likely than needing air support for our bombers to hit it. Our equipment doesnt require 'air support' the only time we even need to get close is as a show of 'skremgph'. They can put a guided bomb in the vent pipe of a port o let from miles away, no need to launch f-15 and f-16s for 'cover'. Plus with tactical nukes you dont actually bomb anything, the 'bomb' goes off long before it hits the ground. I think the facility was bombed, conventionally, the nuclear materials that may have been on site caused the radiation level to go very high.

    I would suppose that Syria would be a good target though. Seeing as the insurgents in Iraq are coming from Iran and Syria, that makes them part of the axis of evil. Not to mention Syrias continuing attempts to get nukes from the dismantled USSR.
     
  3. phatboy

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    For those too lazy to clicky.....
     
  4. Joeslogic

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    You wanted proof that Iraq smuggled WMD's to Syria then there you have it.
     
  5. Bluelola

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    Can you please quote the parts that prove that, I can't find them.
     
  6. Joeslogic

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    Iraq purchasing yellow cake uranium Joe Wilson proved that with his little diplomatic fact finding trip. Documented stockpiles of biological, chemical, nuclear agents that Iraq was in violation for having and refusing to cooperate with regarding the disposal there of.

    Unfound WMD's in Iraq the prevailing theory being it was smuggled to Syria.

    Israel bombs the shit out of what their intelligence reports as being a nuke facility.

    Radiation levels I understand recorded at high levels.

    Proof enough for me. Now we need to bomb the shit out of Iran next.

    Bush deserves the Nobel peace prize if this is true.
     
  7. TheGrimJesus

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  8. Joeslogic

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    A little sarcasm while avoiding any factual debate?

    Given the status quo translation of facts then that is a safe position to take. I can appreciate wanting to play it safe. Not my style but .... it's cool.

    Smoke and mirrors folks throw out the propaganda positioned for maximum effect. Before logical consideration of the actual details during the media bombardment, move quickly on to the next bombardment of propaganda.

    I have said all along since the beginning that Joe Wilson proved Iraq's pursuit of yellow cake uranium despite what he was trying to do and the anti-American media was all to eager to portray.

    I encourage you to question my logic.

    When I see smoke and mirrors I do not try to interpret the image in the reflection I look at what is being manipulated to hide the real truth.
     
  9. TheGrimJesus

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    No it's just the amount of utter bullshit that came flowing out kind of made my fingers slip on the keys.
     
  10. Joeslogic

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    Wow you should get that checked out.
     
  11. TheGrimJesus

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    Yeah nothing to debate really no proof of anything you said just more rightwing spin.
     
  12. Joeslogic

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    Ok then now be a good little boy and run along now.

    Do as you're told.
     
  13. TheGrimJesus

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    My thread until you can provide links with proof to said things you sir are a LIAR. Just like your hero bush.
     
  14. Bluelola

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    Those aren't quotes. :(
     
  15. Disorder

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    The problem with Joe is that he is often confused or contradictory, sometimes I don't think he really knows what's going on, and if he does, can't decide on what he really thinks and then stick with it.
     
  16. Joeslogic

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    Please explain? (Specifics please)

    It seems to me that you are upset that I decided not to take the position intended by reading the article. It seems you are confusing the idea a pre-requisite to taking a position on the subject is to have that position solidly founded with agreeing with specific quotes in the article”

    This is just like the whole Joe Wilson issue which is why I brought it up. The same way Joe Wilson while intending to throw a monkey wrench into the war against terrorism and derail the Bush campaign unintentionally ended up actually substantiating the case that Iraq was actively seeking yellow cake uranium. The problem is you have to take a logical objective approach to see the obvious evidence. People are extremely shallow and only see the surface picture they are told to see.

    Let me ask you.

    Was Syria bombed? And would someone logically come to this conclusion by reading the article?
     
  17. TheGrimJesus

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  18. Bluelola

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    Whaaaaaat are you talking about? You said:


    I couldn't find the proof in the article, so I asked:

     
  19. Bluelola

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    Were you maybe talking about something completely different that wasn't referenced in this thread? That seems to be the direction you're leaning in, in which case maybe you could provide the reference in order for your comments to have context for other people reading?
     
  20. Joeslogic

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    So you are just going to avoid my question?
     

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