Australia would be my second choice other then America

As a place to call home. I always have had a great deal of interest in the country. I understand John Howard there has spoke his mind reciently I wish the lame weak kneed politicians here would say what 90 percent of us are thinking. Spineless cowards.

From an e-mail I recieved:

Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia , as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks.

A day after a group of mainstream Muslim leaders pledged loyalty to Australia and her Queen at a special meeting with Prime Minister John Howard, he and his Ministers made it clear that extremists would face a crackdown.

Treasurer Peter Costello, seen as heir apparent to Howard, hinted that some radical clerics could be asked to leave the country if they did not accept that Australia was a secular state, and its laws were made by parliament. "If those are not your values, if you want a country which has Sharia law or a theocratic state, then Australia is not for you", he said on National Television, "I'd be saying to clerics who are teaching that there are two laws governing people in Australia : one the Australian law and another Islamic law that is false. If you can't agree with parliamentary law, independent courts, democracy, and would prefer Sharia law and have the opportunity to go to another country, which practices it, perhaps, then, that's a better option", Costello said.

Asked whether he meant radical clerics would be forced to leave, he said those with dual citizenship could possibly be asked to move to the other country. Education Minister Brendan Nelson later told reporters that Muslims who did not want to accept local values should "clear off." Basically people who don't want to be Australians, and who don't want, to live by Australian values and understand them, well then, they can basically "clear off," he said.

Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques. Quote: "IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali , we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians."

"However, the dust from the attacks had barely settled when the 'politically correct' crowd began complaining about the possibility that our patriotism was offending others. I am not against immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against anyone who is seeking a better life by coming to Australia ." "However, there are a few things that those who have recently come to our country, and apparently some born here, need to understand."

"This idea of Australia being a multi-cultural community has served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. And as Australians, we have our own culture, our own society, our own language and our own lifestyle."

"This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom." "We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society .
Learn the language!"

"Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture."

"We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us." "If the Southern Cross offends you, or you don't like "A Fair Go", then you should seriously consider a move to another part of this planet. We are happy with our culture and have no desire to change, and we really don't care how you did things where you came from. By all means, keep your culture, but do not force it on others.

"This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom,
'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'."

"If you aren't happy here then LEAVE.
We didn't force you to come here.
You asked to be here.
So accept the country YOU accepted."

 

I think I'd pick Germany.

 

Are you a fan of that new marriage law they are proposing?

 

Based on what I've seen emerge from there, I'd have to give Brazil a shot.

 

I just read about it. Sure. I have no problem with gay marriage.

The German language is cool. And they totally dug the hell out of "Country Roads." My husband was there for a while and he said he went into a club and a dance version of it was playing and they were going nuts to it and singing along.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-PJzKTtpVg&mode=related&search=

Some of my ancestors are from Germany, as well as Switzerland and Ireland. I'd go to any of those places.

 

I traced my great(x7) grandfather back to France. I suppose I have family there but I can't understand their weird moon-man language.

 

I would love to visit Germany no doubt about it along with Britain, Ireland, Austria, and the old Historic Baltic regions. Really in all the places it would be the preserved historic areas that I would be fascinated with.

Amsterdam heh I'd have to go to one of those smoking bars.

But I started to become fascinated with Australia in elementary school first I thought it was interesting to be the only Country continent. Then I did an essay on it in the 6th grade. I remember that class I has a teacher (female) that must have been a dike looked like Khrushchev she constantly fawned over how great Russia was. LOL what an idiot she was.

 

My great, great, great grandfather came from Germany, but I don't know from where exactly.

I like to go around and find really old dead relatives and visit their graves. I found his daughter a while back.

Here's where some of my 'people' are from per decade (guess most of them came from England):

Drinkstone, Suffolk, England 1470's
Biddenden, Kent, England 1628's
Worcester, England 1570's
Westbury, Wiltshire, England 1550s
Monmouthshire, South Wales 1580's
Rochdale, Rockdale England, Lancashire, England 1740's
Dublin, County Dublin, Ireland 1800's
Mohill, County Leitrim, Ireland 1760's
Dublin, County Dublin, Ireland 1700's
Fordington, Dorset, England 1600's
Memmelshoffen, Germany 1640's
Langenbruck, Switzerland 1640's
Sedgeberrow, Worcester, England 1540's
London, Middlesex, England 1540's

 

Heh I know what your thinking Maj. :biggrin:

 

I grew up from I think 4 till 4th grade in Ohio in the sticks an area they called German ridge. I went to friends homes and their grandparents were there speaking German. Scared the hell out of a little kid. I find the people generally nice and their language a pain to hear.

Odd that they should be related to the Irish I understand in ancestry if I remember my history and geography correctly.

 

That was both sides of my tree... all over the place. That's what you do on Ancestry.com. You get everyone.

 

Pukey, if you're going to post pics of me that I PM you, I'll have to cut you off.

 

Sorry. I just thought everyone should see your Brazilian beauty...

 

oh rochdale. that's a few miles from where i live atm

 

"This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom,
'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'."

"Our Christian beliefs"? Wasn't that right on the heels of talking about it being a secular state?

I am all for inviting people who threaten secular government to take a hike, but can't have a secular government and then turn around and declare it a Christian country. That's just bullshit.

 

I'll refrain from calling you stupid Lola and let you read it again.

Then think (use a few brain cells at least it should not be hard) and then re-examine that statement.

Oh and wile we are at it lets get this parte over with allso.

 

I read the whole thing. I pulled out a specific inconsistency that I noticed, that rubs me the wrong way. If you don't have the mental wherewithal to understand why someone might pull out a quote they have an issue with and leave the rest alone, well, better luck next life.

 

The last name was Clegg.

 

Well see the box above me? That's the proper way to quote someone around here. Look into using it if you last more then a week.

Also what my good friend Joe was trying to say nicely I might add. Is put simply from the few post you made so far you can't tell a Pink Snowball from a Urinal cake you sawed off twat.

Thank You and have a wonderful day.