Passive smoking

Discussion in 'General Mayhem' started by Nursey, Sep 20, 2007.

  1. Nursey

    Nursey Super Moderator

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    Is a lot of complete, fear-mongering crap. Direct intake of smoke i can accept is of significant harm, but a lot of that is to do with the hundreds of chemicals which are added to all mass produced tobacco (though not to 'American Spirit') to increase tobacco company profits. The risks from passive smoking (which has been estimated to add up to 2 or 3 cigarettes a year - at most), however, are extremely negligable, and this is according to the scientist who won the Nobel Prize for first discovering a link between smoking and cancer. Nicoteine patches and other smokeless delivery systems are a giant multi-billion dollar industry for the pharmaceutical companies who have been lobbying heavily to ban smoking in public places. It is yet another example of increasingly powerful multinational corporate entities overriding national boundaries and shaping the laws of a land through cynical propaganda, brown envelopes and other shady means. And they rely on flawed science, the findings of which would not stand up in a court of law, citing only studies which support their agenda, which are usually funded by the companies themselves.
     
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  2. Nauseous

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    I used to smoke and quit and now I can't stand second hand smoke. I'm not afraid that it is going to kill me, but it's really disgusting to smell.

    It's funny, some of the biggest anti-smokers were former smokers...

    Here in the states, they are really cracking down on smoking. I think in some states, there is talk that you aren't allowed to smoke in your car.
     
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  4. Bluelola

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    Secondhand smoke in most public places isn't a significant health threat to anyone. If you are smart enough to make the distinction, you will understand that secondhand smoke becomes dangerous in specific (and not uncommon) circumstances of chronic heavy exposure. Parents who constantly smoke in the house, for instance, put their children at risk for SIDS, asthma, allergies, and more frequent and severe respiratory infections. Same for parents who smoke in their cars with the windows rolled up, which is GROSS but I see it all the time.

    People who work in bars that allow smoking are at risk for lung cancer. I know two older women who have always been nonsmokers, both of whom have had lung cancer, and for them the shared risk factor was that they were teachers, and until a few years ago the teachers' lounges in schools were smoke-filled hotboxes. Unfortunately, teachers didn't have anywhere else to go to get away from the students and take a break, and they couldn't smoke in a place the kids might see them.

    Yeah, if you're standing on a street and you can smell someone's cigarette, it's not going to hurt you (unless you're allergic to tobacco or have asthma, in which case you should stand somewhere else.) A night out in a smoky bar isn't much of a risk, either. For that matter, there are no studies that show that occasional tobacco use is harmful.
     
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  6. Bluelola

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    (By "you" I mean "the general public", not "you specifically". I just re-read and realized that needed to be clarified because I am not trying to be an asshole!)
     
  7. Bluelola

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    I am talking about direct health risks from occasional smoking itself, twatwaffle.

    And don't tell me you're too stupid to understand that there are external risk factors for youth who are likely to smoke tobacco. The studies you link to are not about harm from the tobacco itself, but about associated risk factors. DUH.

    If you had some reading comprehension skills you would understand that I am saying that there ARE risks from secondhand smoke. I am disagreeing with Nursey.

    The reason I say that there are no studies that indicate there are health risks from occasional smoking is because there are no studies. NO. STUDIES. You can spell, right? No one has done a serious, comprehensive, medical study of the health risks of "chippers".

    Get an MPH and maybe you'll have some credibility.
     
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  8. ucicare

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    You will never survive here with a nice attitude like that.

    Play the game. We abuse you for a few days, Dwaine stalks your kids, you get all upset and leave, and then you come back and you are one of the gang.
     
  9. Bear Bryant

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    Why would having a Mr. Potato Head make him credible?

    Barry has about 30 diplomas and certifications on his office wall. I think he has a PhD., but I don't know if he is a licensed psychologist or just a counselor.

    Come to think of it, they did all look like they were produced with a laser printer. Maybe you all know him better than I do.
     
  10. Joeslogic

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    Fuck smokers. I don't smoke and find their noxious fumes annoying. I tend to wish I could fart in their face and be like; "dude take a chill pill alright I enjoy an occasional fart sometimes and it does not hurt anyone." But that’s only strangers I still have the occasional friend that smokes that I tolerate.
     
  11. Bluelola

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    No, I am all about being clear about when I am being an asshole. I don't want people thinking I'm no good at it.
     
  12. ucicare

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    I hate the term "all about". That makes you "all about" 25 years old.
     
  13. Bluelola

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    oooooh somebody has a bitty wittle pet peeve! Ookums precious!
     
  14. ucicare

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    Nursey has a clone. How cute.
     
  15. TheGrimJesus

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    Yes clones aren't perfect and this one will buckle give it time.
     
  16. Nauseous

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    I can't believe I used to smell like that. You don't notice it so much when you smoke, but when you quit... whoo!
     
  17. Nauseous

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    The only reason I post this is because my dad was a smoker when I was a baby and I had ear infections all of the time.

    Canadian researchers say that children who are exposed to cigarette smoke during the first three years of life have almost double the risk of frequent or persistent ear infections.

    The study from the University of Calgary in Canada checked 625 first-grade students at 36 Calgary schools. Nearly a quarter of the children had a history of middle ear infections.

    But children who lived in homes where there were two or more cigarette smokers during the first three years of life had an 85 percent higher than normal history of persistent or recurrent middle ear infections, the report said.


    I remember seeing this bitch (she's dead now, her neighbor blew off her head) one time holding a baby and smoking a cigarette. It made me sick. I don't like to see people smoke around kids.
     
  18. Bluelola

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    Mah hah hah! You'd like to think so.

    Perfect I'm not. Also, not a clone.

    Really, all I want to do right now is figure out how to get an armchair down into the Hole, then I'd be happy.
     
  19. MAJ Havoc

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    Mmm? Speak like Yoda, you do.
     
  20. TheGrimJesus

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    It's a side effect of "Semen Ear"
     

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