Just for Smurf and the other CTs

[phatboy]

I hope this works right.

http://www.pentagonstrike.co.uk/flash.htm#Main
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[phatboy]

http://www.pentagonstrike.co.uk/flash.htm#Main

Maybe here?

[Nursey]

Government Insider Says Bush Authorized 911 Attacks

Keep in mind when reading this, that the man being interviewed is no two-bit internet conspiracy buff.

Stanley Hilton was a senior advisor to Sen Bob Dole (R) and has personally known Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz for decades. This courageous man has risked his professional reputation, and possibly his life, to get this information out to people.

The following is from his latest visit to Alex Jones' radio show. (http://www.rense.com/general57/aale.htm)

[smurfslappa]

Awww man, that's old news Phatty. Been there, seen that. It's good stuff though, and raises all the heavy points.

[ucicare]

Haven't we been down this road before.....???????

I seem to remember that it ends right were the road turns off into a pasture filled with over fed bulls.



Barry

[Joeslogic]

If I had nothing but time on my hands maybe I'd make a web sight dedicated to ever so compelling conspiracy theories that people could read and believe because there boring sedated lives need some sort of stimulation.

Here is a scenario. Keebler Elves are real! Just got to go find a pasture with a tree in it that looks like the one on the Keebler box. Take some pics. prove there are midgets living in the neighboring town. Suggest that the food company initially was serious about letting out that they learned there recipes from little elves but deemed it to unbelievable way back in the 70's when it all began. Now in a sinister twist they actually are suppressing the truth to prevent paying the elves their rightful fee. Blah blah blah

[smiles]

hey joe.... i got another one


so there were these fruity bunch of people, that were all about ‘equality’ and ‘freedom’, let's call them "liberals" and one day they all decided "HEY LET'S GO RUIN AMERICA" so they all go in their hybrid cars( i don't know why, we all KNOW air pollution doesn't cause global warming) and they imbedded themselves into all facets of american culture and structure through begging, pleading, worming, squirming, and sob stories...... so now all we need to do is find examples of people who would rather compromise with lesser profit to promote good relations than fuck the other guy, take some pictures of them handing out condoms at gay pride parades, find gay people in Hollywood that are politically against the ruling party, tie them all together and call it..... A CONSPIRACY

[Joeslogic]

Insightful, thought provoking, interesting.

Consider weather your point of view is completely accurate. That statement was filled with sinicism and assumes that the conservative party is against equality and freedom.

If you would like to debate facts about equality verses myth you do have mountains of propaganda to resort to hell you are in collage for Pete’s sake a veritable breeding ground for propaganda of that type. But I'll take you on.

[XerxesX]

That statement was filled with sinicism and assumes that the conservative party is against equality and freedom


They have a history dont they ! Not only in the states , but all over. Cons cheat more. The main fault of the left, is that they are naive. They dont believe people will cheat. Thats why a lot of socialism dont work. People arent trained to not cheat. The level of civic interaction is a function of our common cultural toilet training. Another field were USA scores low. As for murders. 3000 is about 30% of regular gunrelated deaths each year in USA. In britain 30% would be 20 people dead. You do not value lives the same way over there.

I do not believe this Hilton-person exists. I have checked all over and there is no Stanley Hilton. And who would call their son after a non-existing hotell ?
There is this Paris Hilton. She is a feisty fresh republican girl. Why dont you just wank off :?:

[Joeslogic]

Take away the naivety, human nature, misrepresentation and corruption factor. And I'll be the first in line to pledge allegiance to the communist manifesto. ....... That will never happen though it's simply impossible.

[XerxesX]

Ok ! But the corruption-part is still more of a con-factor.

Paris Hilton !
She has spent years now; trying to gain creds as pretty and witty. I think she dese3rves a facial cream in her honour. Or at least something anti-acne.

Mmh: Paris by night. When the Seine is flowing and the cheese ripens.

[XerxesX]

Check the lates on Kyle Foggo. Corruption-charges. Its cool they search his place though. Shows somebody goes to work fro the honour of the republic and the vages of a public servant.

[Joeslogic]

Paris Hilton I do not understand. She is not that hot really although neither was Madonna either was she? There you go commercialism at its best. Create a ridiculous frenzy of public perception and opinion mold it for maximum exploitation.

Kyle Foggo now I say that’s good! It shows the system works... or at least gives that impression. I see the media is already connecting dots to put him as a conservative or tied with the conservative movement. You have to be careful though. If wide spread corruption exist and is allowed to go unchecked if your leaning are one way and then strictly enforced if you lean another. This should be looked at with a degree of suspicion.

[XerxesX]

She had all these rescources and it was quite easy to become a good product.
But she cant sing, she cant act, she cant dance, her original toughts have not been released yet. ( We are holding our breath here ). She is not an artist and her spell is an empty. ( Blackmagic ) As opposed to culture and entertainment that gets people of their asses and inspire....

I passed a newsstand just now. The telenovelas are getting their lead ladies to drop more and more clothing. Telenovelas and porn seem to be in hot competition. Might as well do singalong to bollywoodproductions. I WANT CULTURE BACK. This babyfood they feed us leave us weak and simple. Freedom they call it. To listen to the same five fuckin lollytunes over and over.

[diogenes]

Paris Hilton should be set on fire. Joe, have you ever read "Das Kapital" or "The Communist Manifesto"?

[XerxesX]

All the hotels. Not only the Hiltons should be set afire. ( Acording to the theoretical framework that set out to liberate the masses some hundred years ago.
One could use the hulk for purposes both benign and joyfull :lol:

[diogenes]

I think she'd be just as talented as a corpse. That's about her range for acting skills.

[Joeslogic]

Joe, have you ever read "Das Kapital" or "The Communist Manifesto"?

I must atmit I have not but I do not think I went to far out on a limb with that statement, I mean it's not very likely to happen is it?

[diogenes]

None of you republicans ever have. Read what Marx was saying, then come and talk about government and capitalism. Until then you speak without knowing. You have a 50's Americana view of Communism, not what Marx intended at all.

[XerxesX]

Yes Dio ! That it. Communism was not what Marx envisioned. At least not the way it turned out.

Problems seem to arize with these BIG PLANS and BIG TRUTHS...........

One must realize the powerstructures and respect power.
Those who dont, end up powerless and disillusioned.
People are not like. Both culture and race makes us different from one another. RRRRRRRIIIINNNGGG !!!!!!!!!!!!! KA-BOOOOOOOOMMM!!!!!!!!!!

[Joeslogic]

The Communist experiment has been tried enough times by people and countries who read those works extensively. The closest thing to success is China and they are holding onto the U.S. to be propped up and have morphed to a communism / capitalism mix. But I'm sure if the "proper conditions" were only met then they could have success.

Hey I have an idea. Why don't we take the most successful political system the world has ever known. Then use the media and left politicians to divide the people. Convince everyone that there are terrible problems that we only need to depend on them and a massive new government beurocracy to fix. When bigger government institutions only manage to screw things up further we can have the media tell the people it was evil deregulation to blame and suggest they we start yet another government beurocracy......... blah blah blah

Hold on we are resorting to communism after all then aren’t we just doing it ever so slowly and sort of like Fabian Socialism.

[DrBungle]

Fabian Sociasm: I can't beleive it's not a government!

[diogenes]

The Communist experiment has been tried enough times by people and countries who read those works extensively.

So you justify your failure to have read the Communist Manifesto on their failure to understand it or the fact that they warped it's teachings to their own ends. Capitalism is a necessary precursor to Communism according to Marx. That's why it's important that you read both books. Marx was a big fan of capitalism.

The closest thing to success is China and they are holding onto the U.S. to be propped up and have morphed to a communism / capitalism mix.

How so? If by prop up you mean grant normal trade status. China has huge amounts of economic factors of production. The size of their labor pool alone allows them near absolute advantage in manufacturing endeavors.

Hey I have an idea. Why don't we take the most successful political system the world has ever known. Then use the media and left politicians to divide the people.

Funny, I don't hear the left labeling and dividing people nearly as much as the conservative "right". Matter of fact, try and deny this, plenty of the fingerpointing and name calling is coming from the right side of the media.
You can't tell me that Rush Limbaugh and Micheal Savage are unifying figures in the American media. You can try, but it simply isn't true.

Hold on we are resorting to communism after all then aren’t we just doing it ever so slowly and sort of like Fabian Socialism.

I pointed out that you were ignorant of the true concepts of communism. If you choose to remain so that is your choice. Communism and big government are not synonymous.

[Joeslogic]

Like I said Dio it is undeniable that several societies have adopted and based their system of governing its people on those same teachings you keep trying to insist that have to read in order to be able to make a valid argument about. They all by comparison to a system based on a form of Democracy are failures.

By comparison our government becomes larger and more socialist with each year. And yes Communism is all about big government. Just go to Communist Party USA webpage and see that they are all about government regulation of practically everything and also take notice what their point of views are on the issues and make a quick and easy comparison to what the views and issues are of the Democratic Party. It's not hard to connect the dots and figure it all out.

[diogenes]

Like I said Dio it is undeniable that several societies have adopted and based their system of governing its people on those same teachings you keep trying to insist that have to read in order to be able to make a valid argument about. They all by comparison to a system based on a form of Democracy are failures.

So you are still going to make arguments about a topic you know nothing about. Read the books then tell me their system is based on the books. It's the same things with people who critique Nietzsche. They've never read what was written, they just know what they've been told.

As for the Communist Party U.S.A. how many people have run for public office on the communist platform? Communism is dead in the United States, there is no true left in the United States anymore.

[Joeslogic]

Like I said Dio it is undeniable that several societies have adopted and based their system of governing its people on those same teachings you keep trying to insist that have to read in order to be able to make a valid argument about. They all by comparison to a system based on a form of Democracy are failures.

By comparison our government becomes larger and more socialist with each year. And yes Communism is all about big government. Just go to Communist Party USA webpage and see that they are all about government regulation of practically everything and also take notice what their point of views are on the issues and make a quick and easy comparison to what the views and issues are of the Democratic Party. It's not hard to connect the dots and figure it all out.

[diogenes]

Refusing to analyze and critically assess a position other than your own. You must be a republican.

[Joeslogic]

Please allow me to appologize Dio and see if I can explaine a little more reasonably.

Like I said Dio it is undeniable that several societies have adopted and based their system of governing its people on those same teachings you keep trying to insist that have to read in order to be able to make a valid argument about. They all by comparison to a system based on a form of Democracy are failures.

By comparison our government becomes larger and more socialist with each year. And yes Communism is all about big government. Just go to Communist Party USA webpage and see that they are all about government regulation of practically everything and also take notice what their point of views are on the issues and make a quick and easy comparison to what the views and issues are of the Democratic Party. It's not hard to connect the dots and figure it all out.

Well that about sums it up.

[phatboy]

So has anyone seen the stills of the 'newly released' footage of the Pentagon plane crash??? I saw a bit on foxnews.com but they didnt just show the video. Or stills for that matter. I mean crap install 'irfranview' and you can do a frame by frame easy. Sometimes media types freaking erk me.

[diogenes]

All hail Reagan, greatest political leader the world has ever known, and his son, George W. Bush, the savior of all things free.

[XerxesX]

Heil Heil !! But the advantages communism has created for chinese export are undisputable. The stateplanned projects are at the core of it. Private enterprise, ( even american ), could not create such massive projects. The controll on the currency, etc.......

Would allso mention that China has increased its import of US and european goods. 8)

[diogenes]

Communism has no advantages at all. Haven't you read all of the republican propoganda.

[XerxesX]

HmmSorry Yes ! Communism has no advantages at all :cry: