Do You Hate the Human Race?

[Totalrecall1982]

http://www.livescience.com/animalworld/060306_extinct_list.html

Why do we print stories like this one if no one is willing to do anything about it? Will the whole world just go to shit while we sit back and read it on the internet?

[DrBungle]

I'm too apathetic to even bother to read that link. Sounds like a bummer, man. Quit harshing my mellow.

[Totalrecall1982]

Your exactly the type of person i was talking about. I hate you

[Joeslogic]

Could not decide a vote on that answer could have been sometimes either way. When I was a kid I used to love to watch those Mutual of Omaha Wild Adventures shows. I would consider myself an animal lover myself. Animals have innocence about them I do appreciate. On the other hand for instance I watched that Grizzly Man episode the other day and I think that guy was certifiably insane. Bi-polar, maybe I don’t know I'm no psychiatrist maybe Barry could give a prognosis. Point is these days there are a lot of extreme animal wackos out there.

Taking the same approach that we should prevent any species from becoming extinct then with genetic engineering advances then as soon as we can we need to bring back from extinction all previously extinct species. For example go to the Smithsonian and get some dna from a Tyrannosaurus Rex and inject it into the sperm and egg of a Komodo Dragon or Alligator or Crock. Take Saber Tooth tiger dna and do the same thing with a Siberian Tiger. Woolly Mammoth/Elephant ...... the list goes on and I'm sure you get the point. Sounds stupid from that perspective doesn’t it?

A few animals I would like to see extinct:

Mosquito
Alligator
Tick
Flea
Chigger
Certain clams
Asian snake fish
Large snake species such as Python, Anaconda
Brown Recluse, Black Widow
Scorpion

The list could go on I'm sure. Think of all the plant species I could add. And do I think this would cause a catastrophic imbalance? ... No it would not.

[Totalrecall1982]

Thanks or the reply joeslogic. I understand where you are coming from there are a few animals I would like to see gone my self. But the real problem is that humans know what we are doing. We see it at the end of every nature show. We are causing irreversible damage to the planet and it’s inhabitants. Still we chose to hide the planets suffering in the woods while we all play volleyball.

[diogenes]

I'd like to see the 700 Club and all of it's viewers go into extinction. Other than that I don't want to see anything go extinct.

[Joeslogic]

Over the years I have learned the value of credibility. There is a silent majority out there that is slow to wake and slow to react but when it does change can take place. Unfortunately so many of the nature shows have lost the credibility of the public. While they do have an extremely dedicated following.

I think the approach would be better looked at from a cause and effect incentive type of perspective. for example. Elephant poaching for Ivory tusks. When they outlawed the Ivory trade values of Ivory went from like 200 per ounce to 2000 per ounce. (do not hold me exactly to those figures I'll be glad to find an example however and the point is the same) Actually more elephants were poached and loads of money were dumped into policing the poachers unsuccessfully. Since then certain areas of Africa have adopted other approaches that work better.

I'm going to go look for the article I recently read regarding the Ivory trade. It’s an example of manipulation of the market using more reasonable means. Until then check out the Bunny game or the Desert Island trade game here:
http://www.libertyarcade.org/

[XerxesX]

Totalrecall wrote
[/quote] Will the whole world just go to shit while we sit back and read it on the internet?


Yes ! All major ecosystems are going down. Exept the human-based group of corns and chicken and cows and shit.

But if we read it on the internet untill its to late to change the facts in the tarain, and a supercomputer survives with a decent simulation of life , as it was, one can ask the questioñ
IS LIFE REALLY EXTINCT ON THIS PLANET :?:

[Joeslogic]

DUH! :oops:

It was the Bunny Game that I read that.
http://www.bunnygame.org/moral.htm

Moral of the game: “The Tragedy of the Bunnies” is a simple game that illustrates an important concept commonly referred to as “The Tragedy of the Commons.”

Having a commons (publicly-owned property) sounds like a great idea, so why do stories about the commons – the ocean, rivers, and air – so often turn tragic? Why are so many species facing extinction? Why are so many resources being depleted?

How do we avoid these tragedies? The following discussion explores some solutions.

The Tragedy of the Commons is a well-known phenomenon to environmentalists and economists. The phrase itself was penned by Garrett Hardin in his seminal 1968 article, "The Tragedy of the Commons."

As any economist will tell you, people respond to incentives. If there's a valuable resource lying about in a commons—picture a pizza at a frat party—people will try and grab as much of that resource as they can before the resource is depleted. This response is natural—it's an example of people responding to incentives. In other words, in a zero-sum game, you need to "get while the getting is good". The more other people get, the less there is for you.

Even if the resource is renewable—like a forest or an elephant population—the situation can turn into a zero-sum game. This is because while it may be in the community's interest to refrain from depleting the resource, it's still in each individual's interest to "get while the getting is good." Tragically, the very people who do act in the long-term public interest and refrain from depleting the resource end up getting nothing. Even more tragically, when a renewable resource is utterly depleted, no one benefits over the long-term. This is the tragedy of the commons.

How Can We Avoid the Tragedy of the Commons?
To most people, the obvious way to avoid the inevitable depletion of resources in a commons is to employ top-down regulations. However, regulatory approaches are fraught with their own problems, often resulting in unintended consequences that may actually exacerbate the problem.

Consider the example of elephants. During the late 1980s, the ivory trade received a great deal of attention, in part due to efforts of the International Wildlife Commission to raise awareness about the problem of poaching. In April of 1989, The IWC sponsored an advertisement featuring the image of a dozen African elephants lying dead and rotting at the edge of a forest, their faces mutilated by chainsaws used to hack off their tusks. The message: Stop the international trade in ivory and thereby stop the massacre.

The message got through, and ivory trade was banned, despite the fact that elephant populations were stable in countries like South Africa and actually on the rise in countries like Zimbabwe.

The ban on ivory trade necessarily resulted in high enforcement costs and ultimately failed to in its objective to stop poaching. Why?

While the ban successfully shut down most legal markets for ivory, the black market ivory trade flourished. A kilogram of unworked ivory, which sold for around $200 before the ban, was reported to be selling for as much as $2,000 in 1993. This artificial increase in the value of ivory created huge incentives for poachers. In the five years following the ban, customs officials in Africa seized more than 2500 shipments of black market ivory.

CAMPFIRE-A Property Rights Based Approach
About the same time the ban on the ivory trade went into effect, Zimbabwe instituted a unique program called CAMPFIRE (Communal Areas Management Program for Indigenous Resources). Through the CAMPFIRE program, rural villagers are granted title to wildlife living on their land. By selling photo and hunting safari rights to tourists, the villagers are able to generate much needed revenue. At the same time, the villagers are given a strong incentive to protect the wildlife from poachers.

The CAMPFIRE approach has worked so well in Zimbabwe, in fact, that officials are pushing for an end to the ivory trade ban. As one official of the National Park Department put it, "Wildlife is a renewable resource. If utilized properly and in a sustainable manner, it will go a long way towards improving our people's life as a country and a continent. We want to make use of this resource which we have in abundance."

Many people balk at the very idea of giving people property rights to elephants. However, by denying financial benefit to the villagers who cohabitate with elephants, we create a perverse incentive structure—poachers have a big incentive to poach, and locals, with no stake in the elephants, have little incentive to stop poachers from poaching. In fact, African villagers who see elephants as a threat to their safety and their crops often view poachers in a relatively positive light.

Giving local communities property rights to the elephants on their land has proven to be an effective way to enable humans and elephants to live together to mutual advantage.

Of course, it's not always easy to define property rights; such is the case with fish and water supplies, for example. However, as empirical researchers like Elinor Ostrom have discovered, people have developed a staggering array of institutional arrangements that effectively manage commons to the benefit of local communities.

[chester grape]

Why hasn't smurf posted here yet? We should go round and see if he's OK ... anyone know where he lives?

[smurfslappa]

I just can't post at work anymore, and with my internet being the bitch that it is, I don't like going through all the trouble of posting. I don't hate the human race, but I do hate stupid, apathetic people. I'll get what they deserve.

[chester grape]

I'll get what they deserve.

?

[smurfslappa]

Because they didn't give a damn, or they were being stupid like "Haha! That'll never happen! Silly, paranoid smurf!"

Earth in grip of mass extinction: scientists (http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200603/s1586235.htm)
Scientists say Earth is experiencing the largest mass extinction in 65 million years. Environmental scientist Professor Norman Myers says the loss of species is more severe than the five mass extinctions of the geological past. "In the lifetime of many [television news] viewers we could lose half of all those 10 million species around the world," he said.

[Totalrecall1982]

Ha-ha Thanks for posting the bunny game. It’s very straightforward and its message is critical. I only wish that they would make these into a series of consol games so that it may reach more children before there are no more fucking bunnies! Is there any way to regulate the earths impending doom with out the use of a one world government? :twisted:

[phatboy]

They have told me that they are on to you. You better watch out. Between the aliens and the government you have no chance. They have been using snoodling as their method of removing your soul so you are probably all ready one of them. Poor bastard. You thought snoodling was cool.

[XerxesX]

It would be politically correct to hate people. I guess. People are cute, but ofcourse they are a pest, and we should take out a major part of the human herds.
Unchecked humanity spells deaths. Its that ¨freedom¨ rearing its ugly head again.

[Totalrecall1982]

we should take out a major part of the human herds

Finally some one who sees the truth. The human population is just way out of control. The planet can not support this many people. The animal kingdom can't support this many humans. There has to be a breaking point and I think we've already reached it. I just hope the bird flu can acomplish something towards this end. I'm certain that snoodlling will not help 8)

[XerxesX]

No disease seems to touch humankind. We need that human touch :evil:

[DrBungle]

Thank god we still have famine and war!

[smurfslappa]

That's what'll finally do us in. The famine, which in turn causes disease because of our polluted bodies filled with heavy metals and crap from all the shit we eat and drink. And the war from all the religious nuts killing other sinners/infidels/antichrists in God's name.

[diogenes]

So what you're saying is that the people of Earth will die of either starvation, disease, or murder. What else can you even die from? Dehydration and overdose.

[smurfslappa]

Well, I'm saying A LOT more people will die from all those in a shorter amount of time than usual. Probably dehydration too.

[MyNameMeansNothing]

So what you're saying is that the people of Earth will die of either starvation, disease, or murder. What else can you even die from?
Stupidity.

[chester grape]

So what you're saying is that the people of Earth will die of either starvation, disease, or murder. What else can you even die from?
Stupidity.

Don't think so. You're still breathing.

[smurfslappa]

There's different levels of stupidity, Chester. Forrest Gump made millions. Stupidity doesn't kill everyone, but it kills a lot of people.

[phatboy]

Forrest Gump was a movie. There for Forrest Gump really didnt make millions. Tom Hanks made millions.

Stupid rich people would be like the lady who sued McDonalds for spilling hot coffee on herself.

[diogenes]

We will never run out of stupid people. They breed too quickly and work too cheaply.[/b]

[DrBungle]

Thank god for infantry!

[XerxesX]

Even Infantry and famine and plague combined. Nothing can touch the human scourge.
Its just like throwing molotov-coctails at a gas :cry:

[MyNameMeansNothing]

So what you're saying is that the people of Earth will die of either starvation, disease, or murder. What else can you even die from?
Stupidity.

Don't think so. You're still breathing.

I'm Wounded. :roll:

[Reizvolles]

Yes, I hate the human race and all it stands for. But then again, I'm just a nasty little bitch.

This thread belongs in "General Mayhem" you fuck knuckles.

[diogenes]

I love you Reiz.

[Reizvolles]

I love you Reiz.
You'll hate me in the morning.

[diogenes]

I'll probably hate me too. But I still love you Reiz, and it's morning. :wink:

[DrBungle]

*sneaks out of closet with video camera*

[Reizvolles]

*sneaks out of closet with video camera*
About time you came out of the closet.

[phatboy]

ZING

[Totalrecall1982]

Yes, I hate the human race and all it stands for. But then again, I'm just a nasty little bitch

Finally somen one I can relate to

[bbwayans]

i really hate the human race, im so happy im a nympho, makes life so much better, BBWAYANS LOVE IS LOVE FOR EVERYONE, YA BA DA BA DOOOOOOO

[XerxesX]

I want to be a human. Yesterday I saw a bunch of my regular gards. Damn ! Some of them are fine. Lets fraternize........................................ .......
I even want sex with humans. Soldiers are fit. Saw a bunch of my regular shadows yesterday.
It is nice when one starts to recognise them. I saw one girl that has followed me at least 8 months. A couple that has been with me for a year. Hehehe.
The local stations get a bit unruly when we arrive though. There was this pissed off crew a week ago. They dont scare me anymore , though. I scare myself.

[XerxesX]

I am scared a lot actually :oops:

[XerxesX]

But now its all right . Yes ! Beautiful they are :D Have to get fit. As fit as humanely possible !

[smiles]

it's like he's working for the CIA sending secret messages to undercover operatives

[Ferine]

it's like he's working for the CIA sending secret messages to undercover operatives
The peanut butter is in the carpet.

[smurfslappa]

Ewwwwww :x In the carpet, or on the carpet?

[What?]

Humans make me sick. It's just a natural talent I was born with. :o

[Ferine]

Humans make me sick. It's just a natural talent I was born with. :o
A natural talent to get sick or to not make sense? If you threw up when you wrote this, you are talented!

Oh, welcome to fugly forums! :D Good to see you. I suggest the Yarn thread to start things off. Just because.