Nursey
02-21-2006, 02:29 PM
The only thing that is half baked around here is some of the crap you pull off some of these websites ran by guys named skippy and the like.
It's only 'half-baked' once it reaches the inner, sweaty shagpit of your brain, it's perfectly viable, interesting information up til then.
I mean yeah its great you post and all, But they are all the same you biting someone else work have you ever had a thought of your own on a subject? Or do you belive everything you copy & Paste?
This is a news oriented forum, and I'm not a journalist, so don't expect me to rewrite the fucking news. But if you want to see some of my *original stuff*, here's a selection of some of my 'cold sober' type posts for you..
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'Doc' asks: "There are too many people in the world. Could WAR one of nature's ways of getting rid of the excess?"
Reply: Why YES OLD CHAP! And we all know that Mother Nature views US in the WEST as the SUPERIOR GROUP OF CHOICE to inherit her great bounty once the wretched unassimilated primitives, some of whose ways of living remained practically unchanged for thouuusands of years *sneer* are finally eliminated from this tiresome equation once and for all, leaving US in PEACE to indulge all our wildest excesses, just as our munificent creator would want it. So really, as long as M.Nature makes no mistake of just who exactly is upsetting the balance here (with all their FILTHY, horny, fornicatory friskee fuckrutting dune-bunny shenannighans and what not) *face ruddifies as neck vein throbs visibley*... then its tally bloody ho and ON WE GO, free to soar to ever more towering heights in our technological quest to meet our maker, man to man, and give the Old Boy a congratulatory pat on the shoulder before presenting Him with a list of complaints about this miracle of His, compiled by a quite properly and democratically appointed bunch of arrogant fucking toss cocks before screaming Him into submission and training Him to do Our Bidding.
And for that, we give thanks (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v185/dstrictnursey/turkeyday.jpg)...
Interesting poles here.
The land and the people that gave birth to our present civilisation being destroyed by weaponry at the most cutting edge of the human race's technological achievements...and now... the earliest and in my view most important artifacts in the human race's heritage... recording the very seeds of civilised thought* - the dawn of civilisation , thousands of intricately etched clay tablets ( most of which have still to be translated ) which have miraculously survived the ravages of thousands of years worth of history in one of the most tumultuous and intense hotbeds of human activity on the planet.....now, in the year 2003, being left open to the elements of chaos and destruction (as if it was worthless rubbish, when it is of inestimable value to the human race...far more than gold - or oil...to civilised thinkers anyway) resulting from the circumstances wreaked upon the region by an outside invading force of the number one superpower which has just carved out the role of number one most powerful agressor on the planet today, responsible for the single most deadly blow ever dealt to the UN , figureheaded by an illiterate sociopath who makes a living mockery of the worthiest traits in human nature...the record holding Texan executionist and retard killer...George W Bush...whose actions are undoing the greatest achievements of every civilised human that has ever contributed to the furtherance of the human race and dragging us all into a living nightmare world of complete chaos, lawlessness and destruction.
*documenting a most significant point in time, the dawn of human civilisation, which i believe is synonymous with the elevation from a primitive animalistic state of squalour and barbarism to a far more noble creature empowered with the unique ability to expand consciousnesses beyond what can be immediately perceived i.e basic material stimulus. An ability we appear to be relinquishing in our base impulse driven society.
There is absolutely no harm in investigating unconventional ground. And i make it clear that i am not claiming to stand on what i consider solid ground when i present such hypothesis'. Just because i'm open minded and unafraid to explore a large number of possibilities (that at first glance might seem very far fetched to someone who hasn't 'thought outside the bubble' to much degree, but when viewed in the context of certain undisputed and often quite incredible facts that aren't widely known to the public, don't seem quite so ludicrous after all) doesn't mean all my information is based on such shakey premises.
I encourage everyone to think for themselves, and not be afraid to question everything we so automatically take for granted. Don't ever take as truth anything you can't properly grasp for yourself, but remember - an inquisitive mind that is not bound by convention is the kind that makes the most inspirational discoveries. Keep your head in the stars and your feet on the ground.
I was asked: "Surely you don't think that ordinary Americans could have stopped this war, even if we hadn't believed what we were told was its rationale? Ordinary Brits couldn't have stopped it either."
It's 'ordinary' British and Americans...and Iraqis who are the ones that have to pay the ultimate price, them and all the rest of the world's surplus-to-requirement expendable non-elite. (See General Smedley Butler's 'War is a Racket')
Knowledge is power, and it's down to each individual to take full responsibility for the clearness and purity of the 'droplet of water' that is their personal contribution to the 'sea of human consciousness'. To prevent clouding of our perception of reality requires keeping the balance from tipping too much one way or another, as a result of our personal attachements (i.e. fears, desires) from entering the equation/experience. It takes constant attentiveness and a path devoted to truth, and a firm self belief to stand your ground and attempt to see what's going on with your own eyes rather than keeping your head down at the level of the rest of the herd and assume the attitude of safety in numbers. And questioning everything we are being fed by the conventional mechanisms we have come to depend on is more vital now than ever, because the latest illusion carefully engineered by the master power strategists and currently bedazzling the masses has become so far removed from reality, it's more like a complete mirror opposite of the truth than a doctored copy ( which was more the case prior to the...new situation - 911 ), and takes not just a little sifting around to see through the veils, but a complete turn around, which takes quite an unentrenched, flexible mind capable of challenging some of your most cherished, comfortable beliefs, if need be.
"By nature, people tend to conformity. Our social norms (definition of reality) are defined by society through education and the mass media.
We must recognize that the mass media contains the elite's political and social message, usually subtly disguised. In terms of the best interests of humanity, this message is usually destructive and subversive."
What do you expect when we are living so out of sync with nature? All around us are 'jarring energies' in the form of the industrialised society. We are bombarded from all directions with hazardous chemicals that put an enormous burden on our immune systems. We constantly encounter or are surrounded with powerful force fields which interfere with our own subtle electromagnetic balance.
Before we are able to even lift our own heads and then regularly til adulthood and beyond, we are injected with a variety of highly toxic substances ( mercury, formaldehyde, aluminium, phenoxyethanol - which is anti-freeze...to name just a few). vaccine ingredients.
Our modern 'medicine' is accountable for millions of deaths each year, and has its roots in the blood letters and mercury prescribers of the Victorian 'dawn of enlightenment'. These outrageously arrogant little white men, in assuming the role as GOD decided that women giving birth should not move around and utilise the force of gravity in order to help ease the baby out, but should be made to lie down on their back, which is about the worst position to give birth in next to standing on your head. And it's only fairly recently that hospitals started to revise this as being the 'default'.
Did you know that during the Inquisition, a large number of those condemned, tortured and killed were the medicine folk, herbalists (usually women) who passed on their knowledge through the generations to the benefit of the populace, and those doing the Inquisitions were they themselves the ones involved in 'the dark arts', as this provided the perfect cover.
We are psychologically bombarded with extremes of every sort imagineable in a culture that is moulded by corporate exploitation and instant gratification of base impulses. We are so arrogant in the west, forgetting that what we represent in terms of the whole of human civilisation is a miniscule slice, one small chapter in a hefty tome, and not the be-all and end-all as our small limitive scopes inform us. It's time to come down a peg and start taking a look at how humanity survived the past 10 000 years, and admit that we are in a screaming insane plunge into a toxic hell hole. And our 'solution' to the ailments we suffer as a result? Take more chemicals. By doing this, you are altering the surface result, but getting further and further detracted from the imbalance's source. You have to take things right down to their lowest common denominator in order to address the root of a fault, or you are only making the problem more complex and difficult to solve.
Get over your goddamn pride. You take this all so personally. I'm not against you, i'm actually for you, only you can't see it. Who is it that frequently exhibits prejudice here? Is it the likes of me, Pimp, smiles etc or is it more a trait we see occurring in people like Barry, Fagaroni that super-patriot 'ianbo' etc? And it's prejudices which align you with a corrupt movement / ideology which depends on such ignorance to further its malevolent, self-serving aims. But once those aims are achieved, the very masses whose power was harnessed will be discarded, like the fuel tank that is shed once the space shuttle reaches 'escape velocity' and can wave goodbye to the lowly stampeding herds which i think i should add includes all of us. How quaint of Fagaroni to entertain the notion that it's only 'backwards', 'overbreeding' 'useless' 'undeveloped' people of foreign complexion who are to be...shed...for the priviledge of a select few of 'master beings', of which he considers himself to be...but who are in fact that miniscule percentage of super elite who are now walking across the golden threshhold into the magnificent, shining New Age (or as we know it 'PNAC')...where there will be no wars because they will no longer need to start any...having finally accomplished what has been quietly worked towards for possibley near a thousand years. No, there will be no war or famine because there will be no 'lowlife' masses to control and eradicate. The advances in technology now render us minions useless and obsolete...or perhaps a vermin of which the earth must now be cleansed. Law of the jungle (like those passengers of burning planes who are most likely to scramble up and run over other peoples heads as they attempt to escape)...winning over the very thing which elevates us from the level of wild animals (who are fulfilling their role in creation)...the ability to transcend the limitations that we each as an individual experience in our mortal, physical existence and experience our humanity as one with the whole of humankind, in order to fulfill our real potential.
Once you realise that harming another is a crime to yourself, that clinging to selfish egotistical needs in order to get one up on anyone else you encounter is an attitude which makes you the biggest, most profound loser in every sense, that it's a happier existence 'down in the village' amongst 'cheery peasants' making do and sharing what they've got than alone in a pristine ivory tower with the most refined, exquisit treats (image of Wolfowitz jumping to mind) ...then sacrificing you own selfish desires for the greater good becomes not only easier, but deep, deep down...the most supreme joy. And will enable our soul to evolve to a higher frequency that is not restricted by the constraints of the dimension we are currently experiencing. As the power in our spirit will have succeeded in disentangling itself from the binds that keep us attached to our current mode of being, enabling expansion - birth - into a whole new dimension.
I wrote this when i was had problems getting online last week and needed to vent some pent up mental energy, i was also a bit....it was the weekend. It starts off with a...*ahem*... 4 hour long telling off to Schmed, before getting round to unravelling the vile, writhing contortions of ANTI-NURSE...('Barry').
Look, I am not one to put anything past our (USA) current admin., but this one is not them, shit like this has happened since before America was run into the gorund, and will continue to happen long after America is no more. I have a loved ones family over there now, and I speak with them as much as possible, it's a horrible ,horrible thing, but it IS a natural disaster, I would stake my life on it. So let's move on from this , I am not defending my country blindly on this, I just would really appreciate it if we could move onto another subject all together. Please....
Schmed, with all due respect, if you don't want to read about a certain subject, don't open the thread that deals with it. I can't stop posting about things which matter to me, or curb talents which have served me so well on a great many different things. If you are satisfied with your reasoning on this subject, and don't wish to persue it any further, that is entirely up to you and i won't attempt to make you see things any other way, or lose any respect due to your difference in opinion. But i make up my own mind about things, as i'm sure you appreciate. Life is too precious to just take someone else's word as to its true meaning. To ask me to censor my mind's workings is asking me to deny my personal experience of reality. It is by exactly the same process...thinking for myself based on the hard factual information i had already amassed by that point, which instantly alerted me to the duplicity of the official version of events regarding 9-11. I was the first person i'd known to doubt it when i first made my opinions clear, and since then there has been an overwhelming avalanche of information which has, in my opinion, clearly justified my original stance, coming from all across the board (not just the predictable sources of dissenting opinion), from high ranking officials from many different countries to respected members amongst the science community to whistle blowers amongst the U.S intelligence and military complex, even a former U.S attorney general - Ramsey Clark - is amongst those who is willing to put their reputation on the line for the sake of their convictions. And it is now, four years later, far easier for those who didn't have such a sense of conviction on the matter when it originally happened to now understand my original view in the light of all that has transpired since then (and i believe that includes you). And for my convictions to have gathered greater clarity and momentum.
On this particular matter, i am not sure, but what i do know based on my knowledge and experience, is that it is definately not outwith the realms of possibility, either practically (scalar electromagnetics are an officially recognised form of weaponry) or morally. Aren't the genocidal acts against the people of Iraq...which we are cynically informed is for their benefit by those -let us remind ourselves- pro-Zionist war profiteering criminals.. not evidence enough of the utter immorality of those warmongers about whom we are speaking? Or are you of the opinion that innocent Iraqis are somehow less innocent than the tsunami victims, and that really, those responsible for the almighty bloodbath in Iraq are, at heart, caring, compassionate souls who don't really understand what they've done? I'm sure all those super-elite, mega-rich crime families like the Bush's and the Cheneys furl their brow and shed a little tear as they watch their bank balances swell to obscene proportions as they gorge themselves on the blood and destruction they are wreaking on an innocent nation.
Also see my latest addition (http://fugly.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6229&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=60) to the 'Population Control' thread for an idea of the 'moral' nature of the ruling elite.
So because it is not outwith the realms of possibility, the honest response is that an open mind must be kept on the subject. I haven't said it was them, i've just said that there exists a very real possibility. That much i can state with confidence.
If your view of reality states that the people we are referring to aren't capable of such actions, then that is the view based on your sum experience and knowledge. Just because you can't entertain anything beyond that point, and so choose to settle for a conclusion that you can't actually substantiate with fact (unless of course, you omitted to mention that you are in fact a core member of the Bush administration with first hand knowledge of their plans?) doesn't mean everyone else has to as well. That is the same attitude that you decry in others who choose to settle for what they want to think rather than face facts. The fact is, you don't know the answer, yet you tell us 'they didn't do it' (what kind of rational is that? ). And expect us to just settle for it. I'm sorry, but that just isn't good enough for me, i'm not satisfied that that concludes the subject. You are falling victim to the same type of attitude that afflicts all those who you condemn for ignorantly adhering to their comfortable, conditioned view of reality rather than founding their beliefs on facts. Lot's of them would stake their lives on their ignorant assumptions too.
Everybody has different circumstances, and different limitations, which is why we all need each other, and why each individual has their own personal unique perspective to contribute to humanity, providing they honour their own integrity. No matter how much we manage to see through, we can't afford to ever get too complacent....always be vigilant for areas in yourself where you aren't being completely honest, because it's an ongoing process.
Also, if i ever come to the realisation that my particular direction of thinking is wrong, i am not too proud to accept it. As long as i'm satisfied that it's truth that i am yielding to, then i will gladly accept it over 'me'. After all, we can all make mistakes, so what's the big deal? So what i offer is a sincere and dedicated effort to get to the crux of things, for my own sake and for the sake of humanity. I'm not perfect, but i am authentic, and to expect me to adapt my authentic position on things is expecting me to shape reality to your liking. I might be wrong about something, that's always a possibility, but at least give me the right to follow my own path to wherever it may lead, because after all, no one else in the whole history of humanity can give you the exact errors - or breakthroughs - on the route that is exclusive to me. I don't like a lot of what i see, but i'm not going to shirk from it no matter how unpleasant or troubling it appears.
Surely you aren't saying free thought is only of value if it conforms to your personal view of reality? Or that it should only be practiced to the point where you don't want to consider anything else being a possibility? The point you've decided is your limit, is getting beyond the depth you are comfortable with, due to it's far reaching implications. That is your choice, but you can't expect everyone else to suppress their natural tendencies because they are outwith limitations relative to your personal being.
I hope you don't think i'm putting you down,because i'm not. After all, how do i know all this? I learnt from my own personal experience. I know where you're coming from and appreciate that, so hopefully you'll consider this constructive criticism, not an attack.
Also, it happened on the one year anniversary of the huge earthquake in Bam (http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/1226-06.htm), Iran last year, which was responsible for the deaths of over 20 000 people. One thing which struck me at the time about that earthquake, was that buildings which had withstood all previous earth tremors including the 200 year old citadel, were completely destroyed.
"Note 01 January 2005: Though Zoe struck Tikopia on 28 December, the cyclone was spun up on 26 December 2002, exactly two years to the day before the Sumatran Trench exploded"
Quite a coinci(a?)dence...
Utter, complete, insane nonsense. It is evil to even suggest such crap.
Barry appears to have confused the powerful authority figures in his life ( the Bush administration ) with God! If you want to bring religion into this political discussion, then personally, i think the blasphemous attitude displayed here is the one which considers any mortal being as on a par with God...any mortal as being beyond reproach.
I know i said we are all God at heart, but don't confuse that with meaning that any one of us mere mortals is perfect...i.e 'on a par with God'.
If any lines of enquiry i choose to follow are destined to meet with a negative conclusion, then what harm is there in my following them anyway? If you are so sure that i am wrong, then why does it cause such a problem to you to allow me to figure that out for myself? If you are so sure of the outcome of my investigations into something, then why are you not secure enough in that knowledge to just sit back, wait, watch and see as i come to the same conclusion myself, through my own clearly mapped out logic displayed where everyone can see? It's like mathematics. I think the answer to a mathematical theory differs from yours, so i present the whole equation as i see it, piece by piece in order to demonstrate how i managed to get there. If you want to show me the error of my ways, point out to me where i've missed a calculation, be my guest! But don't just outrightly refuse to accept the possibility that YOU MAY BE WRONG by not even trying to see it any other way, not even giving any alternative viewpoint the chance to have a fair say. That only shows that you are not secure enough in your beliefs to challenge them, you fear that they can't hold sway. There is only one truth at the end of the day, but myriad different paths that lead to it. So why, then, does quirying (everyone's entitled to question anything that they have trouble accepting at face value...'nobody is above God' and it is 'God' {or 'Absolute Truth'} we are all answerable to at the end of the day', so i'll make my own mind up) - pose such a threat to something that you claim is absolute? If indeed it is, then what does it have to fear from little ol' me?
In fact, Barry's behaviour is the sort that i commonly encounter whenever an insecure individual who is fiercely clinging to a hollow 'truth' (that isn't Absolute, a 'truth' that takes its greatest strength from the fact their are millions who, just like him, are also clinging to the same popular fallacy), has that position challenged. Because they are only going along with outward trends, and have no solid, personally secured base of reasoning, they do not respond with sound, rational arguement, because that is not how they have reached their position in the first place. They attempt to shout you down, ridicule you, demonise you even for simpley seeing things a different way. Because that is all they have to counter you...below that surface of such seeming assurity in their beliefs. It was the insecurity of not knowing which was at the root of their decision to adopt an externally held view which affords them strength in numbers in the first place, and it is that state of vulnerable weakness and insecurity which they fear returning to should someone pop their bubble with cold, steely logic. And that is why they resort to desperate attempts to sabotage the discussion with all sorts of tricks (ridicule, insults, demonisation, outrage) rather than responding with calm, well reasoned intellect. At the root of their apparent certainty lies fear. They don't want to hear anything that might challenge their hollow, 'security blanket' beliefs.
So why do so many misguided flag-waving zealots rally to a jingoistic cause? Kocher provides the answer: "We now live in a society where many people no longer want or value freedom. Personal freedom and the responsibility that goes with it are abrasive intrusions or demands upon a crippled self-absorbed internal state."
"American Denial" prevents the admission that U.S. policies only benefit the government. Their own personal delusional perceptions are interchangeable with a phony litmus test, judged by their support for State illusions. The thought of exercising the Freedom to think, criticize, condemn and resist is far too disconcerting to the sheeple.
The nature of American denial (http://pages.zdnet.com/sartre65/gulag/id6.html)
Notice too how every time i prove Barry wrong on anything, he refuses to even acknowledge it... never mind eat humble pie, and smoothly moves on to attempt to discredit some other part of my arguement. Here's one example:
Staight jackets and private padded accomadations await those who believe governments can control the wind and the waves.
Since then i have furnished the forum with more evidence that carries far more weight than the original information, here is an example:
Defence secretary William Cohen Others are engaging even in an eco- type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves.
So there are plenty of ingenious minds out there that are at work finding ways in which they can wreak terror upon other nations. It's real, and that's the reason why we have to intensify our efforts, and that's why this is so important.
...and yet there is no climb down whatsoever!? (I wonder what defence secretary William Cohen thinks of the "straight jacket and private padded accommodation" Barry in all his infinite wisdom has decided he is in urgent need...) I have proven him wrong, and yet he still proceeds, maintaining the same attitude that anything i have to say is complete laughable nonsense and does not even warrant a fair say, and that any suggestion he could be wrong is simpley preposterous, which is why he wont enter into any political discussions with an open mind, or give any alternative views a fair say. Well sorry Barry, but i think we can all by now see that as much as you'd like to keep up the appearance of having a sound, watertight basis for all your views, that doesn't now tie in with our first hand experience where you are concerned.
1. Does anyone really thing that a Nuclear bomb can be detonated anywhere on earth, and no one is going to know?
I would have thought that this:
This guys articles have bordered on far-fetched to me at times, although he does always make some very detailed analysis' that, whether you go with his final conclusion/agree with it all or not, make interesting reading.
...coupled with what i had already posted in the 'scalar / electromagnetics' thread, including:
....Begich found 11 other APTI patents. They told how to make "Nuclear-sized Explosions without Radiation", power-beaming systems, over-the-horizon radar, detection systems for missiles carrying nuclear warheads, electromagnetic pulses previously produced by thermonuclear weapons and other "Star Wars" tricks."
HAARP: Vandalism in the Sky? (http://www.kalamark.com/Kal_Dir/haarp.html)
...wouldn't have been too great a task of deduction to ask of even the lumbering, encumbered mass of clunking huge cogs and wheels that your mind at times appears.
And anyway, who's to say that even if it was true, that anyone would necessarily say anything? Just because we 'dumb herds' haven't been told doesn't mean that it can't be happening. I think that the Americans were possibley responsible for the huge train crash (http://www.reliefweb.int/rw/rwb.nsf/AllDocsByUNID/46b49b15e0d8917e49256e7f000b44f2) that came close to taking out Kim Jong, the leader of North Korea last year, and that if that's true, that N. Korea, China, Russia (and everyone else at top levels of power) would know it.
It is believed one of the trains involved in the crash was carrying a donation from China to energy-starved North Korea in return for further cooperation on the nuclear issue.
So, the 'masses' think that the rulers would automatically come out and say 'that's it! We are at war everybody!'. And then all nukes would start flying. 'Duh'. There are many other ways to conduct war, and you can be sure that what we see happening is far from anywhere near the full picture. In fact, we're living in 'The Land of Make Believe' if we dutifully swallow the informationally redundant, processed gak that is being continuously fed to us to keep us 'fat and complacent'.
I will take reality in whatever shape it comes in, even if it challenges fundamental ways of thinking or beliefs, ways which are sometimes fiercely clung to by large swathes of the population. To have the self conviction to break free from the flock in that manner takes more courage than when just dealing with more personal conditioning, which is tricky enough, but when a fallacy is backed up by the adherence to it by millions of other people, that is quite a firm, personal standing you are having to make to break free. (Especially when you are personally attacked for having views which differ to the stampeding majority). But it's worth it, every step of the way. At the end of the day, whether i am right or wrong, at least i can use that American catchphrase..'so, sue me'...at least i was just being me.
...and here's a whole thread of my shit.. 'Stuff you already know' (http://fuglyforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=6169)
Is that enough now? I know none of it comes anywhere close to the dried up, crusty nuggets of shitdom you produce, but we can't all match your high standards of eloquence and imagination. Now stop posting stupid, snidey little digs in my threads you dick! Jeeez...i should never have bothered speaking up for you when the rest of the forum including Mr. Fugly just wanted you to fuck off. Me and my ~mercy for the mentally stunted~. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v20/nursey/rolleyes.gif
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