Nursey
02-14-2006, 12:20 AM
Just starting another thread on this subject seeing as the other one (http://fuglyforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=7562&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0) i posted has morphed into a discussion about environmental problems and Chuck Norris.
Satanic Pictures (http://rense.com/general69/satanic.htm)
Much damage was done to the East-West relations by
the Satanic Pictures, but there is more
damage to be expected elsewhere.
By Israel Shamir
2-12-6
The West was not amused by burning embassies in Beirut and elsewhere. "Them there Muslims do not understand our sense of humour; they do not understand our idea of liberty". - droned the newspapers. Others condemned the tactless escapade of the Danes but thought the reaction was quite out of proportion. However the flare up was anything but incidental.
A resourceful American journalist Christopher Bollyn investigated the Danish Satanic Pictures and their procurer, one Flemming Rose, and found out that Rose was not an innocent lover of freedom of speech, neither was he some quaint Scandinavian collector of smut pictures with religious connotations who kept his presentations of the Muslim prophet next to that of a Nun-with-the-Great Dane. Rose was a devotee of the Zionist Neo-Con cult, and made a pilgrimage to the pope of this persuasion -- Daniel Pipes, wrote Bollyn.
So far, so good. But the execrable Rose peddled his stuff four months ago, and that's a long time, as the media counts. The Muslims did not even notice his effort, as possibly not many of them read the Jylland Pest. Like a naughty child who multiplies his effort when his well-prepared jibe fails to annoy, eleven newspapers in seven countries republished the pictures simultaneously. It was a show of hands: behind various newspapers in various countries, beyond companies and corporations, we were allowed to see the Enemy, the Not-So-Hidden Hand, the player on the international scene across all borders.
Who is the Enemy? Christendom was called the culprit by many other observers. But to be sure, the same people who offended Muslims do not think twice before offending believing Christians it is enough to recall the Cross changing into a Swastika on the posters of Amen, the movie, or the crucifix in a glass of piss (an illustration to the Talmud?) in a New York Museum. Thus we have to exonerate Christians and look elsewhere. Ctd. (http://rense.com/general69/satanic.htm)
The mainstream media coverage of the anti-Islamic cartoons ignores the fact that the publication of the images was a "calculated offense" commissioned a Danish colleague of the Neo-Con ideologue Daniel Pipes, which was meant to incite violence and promote the "clash of civilizations."
MIAMI, Florida – After Danish embassies in three Muslim nations were attacked and set alight by angry mobs protesting the anti-Islamic cartoons published in a Danish newspaper the mainstream media turned its attention to the controversial images and the violent reactions they provoked. Invariably, however, the controlled press overlooked the important fact that the offensive images were commissioned and published by a Danish colleague of the Neo-Con Zionist extremist Daniel Pipes.
The anti-Muslim cartoon scandal has turned out to be a major step forward for the Zionist Neo-Cons and their long-planned "clash of civilizations," the artificially constructed conflict designed to pit the so-called Christian West against the Islamic world.
"The rioting that has erupted across the Middle East…is a predictable if overwrought reaction to what now seems like a calculated offense against Islam," The Miami Herald wrote in its lead editorial on February 7.
"It is not necessary to reprint the offending cartoons for U.S. readers to understand the issue," The Miami Herald, a Knight-Ridder paper, opined wisely. "A religious taboo was violated, and those involved knew full well what they were doing. The incident fell all too neatly into the hands of those who would exacerbate tensions between Europe and the Muslim world."
Flemming Rose, the cultural editor of Jyllands-Posten (JP), is the person who commissioned and published the offensive cartoons knowing full well that the images would exacerbate tensions between Europe and the Islamic nations. Rose is a colleague of the Neo-Con Daniel Pipes who visited the Philadelphia office of Pipes' Zionist website called Middle East Forum in 2004.
Rose then penned a sympathetic article about Pipes entitled "The Threat from Islamism," which promoted his extreme anti-Islamic views without even mentioning the fact that Pipes is a rabid Zionist extremist.
Pipes, the son of the Polish-born Jewish Neo-Con professor Richard E. Pipes, is a Zionist of the most extreme sort, who says that the Palestinian people need to have a "change of heart" that should be brought about after being utterly defeated by the Israeli military.
"How is a change of heart achieved? It is achieved by an Israeli victory and a Palestinian defeat," Pipes said in 2003. "The Palestinians need to be defeated even more than (the counterfeit-Jewish State in, but not of) Israel needs to defeat them."
After three Danish embassies were attacked by angry Muslim mobs, CNN turned to Daniel Pipes, its carefully chosen Middle East analyst, to explain the cause of the widespread anger in the Muslim world. Rather than discuss the origin of the anti-Muslim images, which had provoked the protests, Pipes blamed radical clerics for having circulated the offensive images.
CNN failed to mention that Pipes and Rose are Zionist Neo-Con colleagues while Pipes blamed Muslims for the violent protests, saying that "extremists" had used the offensive cartoons published by Rose "to rally their people and become more agitatedly anti-Western."
While there have been massive protests throughout the Muslim world against Denmark for the offense against Islam, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, with Israeli Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni by her side, blamed Syria and Iran for the violent protests in Damascus and Tehran.
"Iran and Syria have gone out of their way to inflame sentiments and to use this to their own purposes," Rice said. "And the world ought to call them on it."
In an article entitled "Cartoons and Islamic Imperialism," written as the Danish embassies smouldered, Pipes framed the "key issue at stake in the battle over the twelve Danish cartoons.
"Will the West stand up for its customs and mores, including freedom of speech, or will Muslims impose their way of life on the West? Ultimately, there is no compromise," Pipes wrote. "Westerners will either retain their civilization, including the right to insult and blaspheme, or not."
Repeated questions to Rose, Pipes, and the editors of JP about whether Europeans should also have the right "insult and blaspheme" the Zionist version of the Holocaust went unanswered. Currently, no fewer than 4 historical revisionists are in European prisons for having written or spoken about the Holocaust in a manner deemed to be illegal.
Framing the cartoon scandal in this way and forcing a false choice between defending the "free press" or the Muslim protesters, Pipes reveals his hidden hand behind the publication of the cartoons, which now appears to be a well-laid trap into which a number of newspapers and populist parties have fallen.
There is also a clear connection between the publication of the anti-Muslim cartoons and the secretive Bilderberg group (http://100777.com/search/node/bilderberg).
Anders Fogh Rasmussen, the Danish prime minister and frequent Bilderberg attendee, for example, has refused to issue a formal apology, which would cost Denmark nothing but could save the nation from further losses to its exporting business and national prestige. Denmark has lost significant market share in Muslim nations due to a consumer boycott of Danish products.
The damage caused to Denmark's image, prestige and economy is likely to be severe and long-lasting. Danish lives are also clearly endangered.
Rasmussen's refusal to apologize, however, suggests that the "calculated offence," which has led to increased tension between Europeans and the Muslim world, was intentional. One would think that Flemming Rose, as the person directly responsible for the "calculated offence" to millions of Muslims, would be charged under Europe's anti-racism laws, not to speak of the severe damage his offensive cartoons caused to Denmark and the Danish people.
Merete Eldrup, the managing director of JP/Politikens Hus, the parent company that owns Jyllands-Posten, is married to Anders Eldrup of Denmark, a Bilderberg attendee for the last five years. Anders Eldrup is chairman of Danish Oil and Natural Gas (DONG).
Why Denmark Must Issue an Apology to Muslims (http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=4132)
The following comments are taken from an email sent to Prof. Mikael Rothstein of the University of Copenhagen and Flemming Rose, the editor of Jyllands Posten who commissioned the anti-Muslim cartoons. In this letter I strongly urge that Denmark, and those responsible like Rose, immediately issue a formal and complete apology to the Muslims of the world.
Thank you for your note. I am an American journalist who has lived in the Middle East for years and have a degree in History with emphasis on the Middle East. Having lived among Muslims, I have a good understanding of their religious values. This is why I responded so quickly when I became aware of these cartoons that Flemming Rose had commissioned and then published.
About, Flemming Rose, allow me to clarify my line of questioning a bit. My question of Flemming Rose's religious persuasion is not the point. The real issue is where does his loyalty lie?
The anti-Muslim cartoon scandal is clearly turning out to be a key event in the Zionist Neo-Cons' "clash of civilizations," the artificially constructed struggle to pit the so-called Christian West against the Islamic states and peoples.
We know that Flemming Rose is a colleague and fellow of the Zionist Neo-Con Daniel Pipes. He has visited Pipes in Philadelphia and written a friendly biographical article which is featured on Daniel Pipes Danish website.
As you know, Pipes is a radical Zionist of the most extreme sort - a hard-line Jabotinsky sort of Zionist. You know, the Iron Fist-Iron Brain, kind of Zionist - the kind that considers Ariel Sharon to be soft on the Palestinians.
We know that there are radical Zionists among Danish Christians as there are millions of Christian Zionists in the USA. The real question is what does Flemming Rose believe?
Is he a Christian Zionist who is leading a kind of Danish crusade against Islam?
Is he an atheist who does not care about or respect the beliefs of Muslims?
...or, is he a closet Jew who denies his Jewish roots and waves his Danish citizenship while waging a poorly-disguised Zionist campaign against Muslims and Arabs?
Because of Rose's close connection with Daniel Pipes, his position as "cultural editor" and his physical appearance, I suspect the latter is the case. I think Rose is a Zionist agent who has created this scandal for a strategic purpose.
Rose should be arrested and interrogated for his actions in creating hatred and hostility against people of another religious group. Why is his crime against an entire people not considered a crime in Denmark?
If holocaust skeptics are arrested and held in jail for raising questions about the holocaust, why is Rose allowed to wage media terror and offend millions of Muslims with impunity?
I think this scandal has actually been created and is being manipulated by a hidden hand in order to foment racial and religious hatred in Denmark and across Europe and the Middle East. Why else would the Danish government not do the sensible thing and issue a formal apology?
You do realize that the crisis will continue and deepen until the Queen or the Prime Minister issue a formal and heartfelt apology, don't you? This could become a religious and civil war between Europeans and Muslims. Europe has had a few such wars in the past.
How much does Denmark want to lose before it does the only proper and sensible thing and issue an apology? Do they want Denmark and Europe to suffer more?
Muslims imams are now calling for the heads of Flemming Rose and those responsible for the cartoons. He should immediately issue a sincere and public apology to the Muslim people. If he does not do so, I fear his life will be in danger.
Furthermore, if he continues to refuse to apologize, it only proves that his effort, which has lead to such hostility, was intentional all the way. If that is the case, he should be arrested and put in prison because he has been directly responsible for the insult he has caused millions of Muslims and the consequent damage he has caused to Denmark and the Danish people.
The damage to Denmark's image, prestige and economy is likely to be severe and long-lasting. Danish lives are clearly in danger.
As a religious scholar of high standing, Mr. Rothstein, you and other concerned citizens should urge the Queen of Denmark and Prime Minister Anders Fogh Rasmussen to issue an apology as soon as possible. Otherwise the crisis will only get worse and the relationship between Denmark and the Islamic world will never be repaired. Who could possibly want such an outcome?
Muslims have a strict code of honor and Denmark has committed a grave insult and affront against Islam - therefore, there is only one way out and that is to issue a sincere apology and ask for forgiveness - and then pray and work for peace.
The US government is no stranger to using falsely attributed paraphernalia to fan the flames of racial tension. During the Vietnam era civil rights struggle, the FBI mass mailed coloring books that were attributed to the Black Panthers. The books portrayed white people as pigs and encouraged blacks to violently attack and kill them. Primarily mailed to white neighborhoods, the books had the effect of turning middle class sentiment against the black rights movement and leading to support of enhanced authoritarian crackdown.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/images/february2006/080206fbibook.jpg
The feasibility of demonstrators in Gaza having immediate access to a plethora of pristine Danish flags as soon as the furore began has also been put under scrutiny.
A CNN International news anchor reported that the United Nations had foreknowledge that protests in Beirut were going to erupt on Sunday.
"ANTHONY MILLS, CNN INTERNATIONAL: My understanding is, as well, that UN sources were reporting this morning that this was going to be a chaotic day, if you will... Or, certainly they were reporting --they were suggesting -- their workers shouldn't go to work today."Link (http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/february2006/080206stagedpsyop.htm)
Another Russian MP Says Muslim Riots Were US Provocation (http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/february2006/130206usprovocation.htm)
See also 'Info. Dominance: The Philosophy of Total Propaganda Control?
(http://www.fuglyforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=6220)
Satanic Pictures (http://rense.com/general69/satanic.htm)
Much damage was done to the East-West relations by
the Satanic Pictures, but there is more
damage to be expected elsewhere.
By Israel Shamir
2-12-6
The West was not amused by burning embassies in Beirut and elsewhere. "Them there Muslims do not understand our sense of humour; they do not understand our idea of liberty". - droned the newspapers. Others condemned the tactless escapade of the Danes but thought the reaction was quite out of proportion. However the flare up was anything but incidental.
A resourceful American journalist Christopher Bollyn investigated the Danish Satanic Pictures and their procurer, one Flemming Rose, and found out that Rose was not an innocent lover of freedom of speech, neither was he some quaint Scandinavian collector of smut pictures with religious connotations who kept his presentations of the Muslim prophet next to that of a Nun-with-the-Great Dane. Rose was a devotee of the Zionist Neo-Con cult, and made a pilgrimage to the pope of this persuasion -- Daniel Pipes, wrote Bollyn.
So far, so good. But the execrable Rose peddled his stuff four months ago, and that's a long time, as the media counts. The Muslims did not even notice his effort, as possibly not many of them read the Jylland Pest. Like a naughty child who multiplies his effort when his well-prepared jibe fails to annoy, eleven newspapers in seven countries republished the pictures simultaneously. It was a show of hands: behind various newspapers in various countries, beyond companies and corporations, we were allowed to see the Enemy, the Not-So-Hidden Hand, the player on the international scene across all borders.
Who is the Enemy? Christendom was called the culprit by many other observers. But to be sure, the same people who offended Muslims do not think twice before offending believing Christians it is enough to recall the Cross changing into a Swastika on the posters of Amen, the movie, or the crucifix in a glass of piss (an illustration to the Talmud?) in a New York Museum. Thus we have to exonerate Christians and look elsewhere. Ctd. (http://rense.com/general69/satanic.htm)
The mainstream media coverage of the anti-Islamic cartoons ignores the fact that the publication of the images was a "calculated offense" commissioned a Danish colleague of the Neo-Con ideologue Daniel Pipes, which was meant to incite violence and promote the "clash of civilizations."
MIAMI, Florida – After Danish embassies in three Muslim nations were attacked and set alight by angry mobs protesting the anti-Islamic cartoons published in a Danish newspaper the mainstream media turned its attention to the controversial images and the violent reactions they provoked. Invariably, however, the controlled press overlooked the important fact that the offensive images were commissioned and published by a Danish colleague of the Neo-Con Zionist extremist Daniel Pipes.
The anti-Muslim cartoon scandal has turned out to be a major step forward for the Zionist Neo-Cons and their long-planned "clash of civilizations," the artificially constructed conflict designed to pit the so-called Christian West against the Islamic world.
"The rioting that has erupted across the Middle East…is a predictable if overwrought reaction to what now seems like a calculated offense against Islam," The Miami Herald wrote in its lead editorial on February 7.
"It is not necessary to reprint the offending cartoons for U.S. readers to understand the issue," The Miami Herald, a Knight-Ridder paper, opined wisely. "A religious taboo was violated, and those involved knew full well what they were doing. The incident fell all too neatly into the hands of those who would exacerbate tensions between Europe and the Muslim world."
Flemming Rose, the cultural editor of Jyllands-Posten (JP), is the person who commissioned and published the offensive cartoons knowing full well that the images would exacerbate tensions between Europe and the Islamic nations. Rose is a colleague of the Neo-Con Daniel Pipes who visited the Philadelphia office of Pipes' Zionist website called Middle East Forum in 2004.
Rose then penned a sympathetic article about Pipes entitled "The Threat from Islamism," which promoted his extreme anti-Islamic views without even mentioning the fact that Pipes is a rabid Zionist extremist.
Pipes, the son of the Polish-born Jewish Neo-Con professor Richard E. Pipes, is a Zionist of the most extreme sort, who says that the Palestinian people need to have a "change of heart" that should be brought about after being utterly defeated by the Israeli military.
"How is a change of heart achieved? It is achieved by an Israeli victory and a Palestinian defeat," Pipes said in 2003. "The Palestinians need to be defeated even more than (the counterfeit-Jewish State in, but not of) Israel needs to defeat them."
After three Danish embassies were attacked by angry Muslim mobs, CNN turned to Daniel Pipes, its carefully chosen Middle East analyst, to explain the cause of the widespread anger in the Muslim world. Rather than discuss the origin of the anti-Muslim images, which had provoked the protests, Pipes blamed radical clerics for having circulated the offensive images.
CNN failed to mention that Pipes and Rose are Zionist Neo-Con colleagues while Pipes blamed Muslims for the violent protests, saying that "extremists" had used the offensive cartoons published by Rose "to rally their people and become more agitatedly anti-Western."
While there have been massive protests throughout the Muslim world against Denmark for the offense against Islam, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, with Israeli Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni by her side, blamed Syria and Iran for the violent protests in Damascus and Tehran.
"Iran and Syria have gone out of their way to inflame sentiments and to use this to their own purposes," Rice said. "And the world ought to call them on it."
In an article entitled "Cartoons and Islamic Imperialism," written as the Danish embassies smouldered, Pipes framed the "key issue at stake in the battle over the twelve Danish cartoons.
"Will the West stand up for its customs and mores, including freedom of speech, or will Muslims impose their way of life on the West? Ultimately, there is no compromise," Pipes wrote. "Westerners will either retain their civilization, including the right to insult and blaspheme, or not."
Repeated questions to Rose, Pipes, and the editors of JP about whether Europeans should also have the right "insult and blaspheme" the Zionist version of the Holocaust went unanswered. Currently, no fewer than 4 historical revisionists are in European prisons for having written or spoken about the Holocaust in a manner deemed to be illegal.
Framing the cartoon scandal in this way and forcing a false choice between defending the "free press" or the Muslim protesters, Pipes reveals his hidden hand behind the publication of the cartoons, which now appears to be a well-laid trap into which a number of newspapers and populist parties have fallen.
There is also a clear connection between the publication of the anti-Muslim cartoons and the secretive Bilderberg group (http://100777.com/search/node/bilderberg).
Anders Fogh Rasmussen, the Danish prime minister and frequent Bilderberg attendee, for example, has refused to issue a formal apology, which would cost Denmark nothing but could save the nation from further losses to its exporting business and national prestige. Denmark has lost significant market share in Muslim nations due to a consumer boycott of Danish products.
The damage caused to Denmark's image, prestige and economy is likely to be severe and long-lasting. Danish lives are also clearly endangered.
Rasmussen's refusal to apologize, however, suggests that the "calculated offence," which has led to increased tension between Europeans and the Muslim world, was intentional. One would think that Flemming Rose, as the person directly responsible for the "calculated offence" to millions of Muslims, would be charged under Europe's anti-racism laws, not to speak of the severe damage his offensive cartoons caused to Denmark and the Danish people.
Merete Eldrup, the managing director of JP/Politikens Hus, the parent company that owns Jyllands-Posten, is married to Anders Eldrup of Denmark, a Bilderberg attendee for the last five years. Anders Eldrup is chairman of Danish Oil and Natural Gas (DONG).
Why Denmark Must Issue an Apology to Muslims (http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=4132)
The following comments are taken from an email sent to Prof. Mikael Rothstein of the University of Copenhagen and Flemming Rose, the editor of Jyllands Posten who commissioned the anti-Muslim cartoons. In this letter I strongly urge that Denmark, and those responsible like Rose, immediately issue a formal and complete apology to the Muslims of the world.
Thank you for your note. I am an American journalist who has lived in the Middle East for years and have a degree in History with emphasis on the Middle East. Having lived among Muslims, I have a good understanding of their religious values. This is why I responded so quickly when I became aware of these cartoons that Flemming Rose had commissioned and then published.
About, Flemming Rose, allow me to clarify my line of questioning a bit. My question of Flemming Rose's religious persuasion is not the point. The real issue is where does his loyalty lie?
The anti-Muslim cartoon scandal is clearly turning out to be a key event in the Zionist Neo-Cons' "clash of civilizations," the artificially constructed struggle to pit the so-called Christian West against the Islamic states and peoples.
We know that Flemming Rose is a colleague and fellow of the Zionist Neo-Con Daniel Pipes. He has visited Pipes in Philadelphia and written a friendly biographical article which is featured on Daniel Pipes Danish website.
As you know, Pipes is a radical Zionist of the most extreme sort - a hard-line Jabotinsky sort of Zionist. You know, the Iron Fist-Iron Brain, kind of Zionist - the kind that considers Ariel Sharon to be soft on the Palestinians.
We know that there are radical Zionists among Danish Christians as there are millions of Christian Zionists in the USA. The real question is what does Flemming Rose believe?
Is he a Christian Zionist who is leading a kind of Danish crusade against Islam?
Is he an atheist who does not care about or respect the beliefs of Muslims?
...or, is he a closet Jew who denies his Jewish roots and waves his Danish citizenship while waging a poorly-disguised Zionist campaign against Muslims and Arabs?
Because of Rose's close connection with Daniel Pipes, his position as "cultural editor" and his physical appearance, I suspect the latter is the case. I think Rose is a Zionist agent who has created this scandal for a strategic purpose.
Rose should be arrested and interrogated for his actions in creating hatred and hostility against people of another religious group. Why is his crime against an entire people not considered a crime in Denmark?
If holocaust skeptics are arrested and held in jail for raising questions about the holocaust, why is Rose allowed to wage media terror and offend millions of Muslims with impunity?
I think this scandal has actually been created and is being manipulated by a hidden hand in order to foment racial and religious hatred in Denmark and across Europe and the Middle East. Why else would the Danish government not do the sensible thing and issue a formal apology?
You do realize that the crisis will continue and deepen until the Queen or the Prime Minister issue a formal and heartfelt apology, don't you? This could become a religious and civil war between Europeans and Muslims. Europe has had a few such wars in the past.
How much does Denmark want to lose before it does the only proper and sensible thing and issue an apology? Do they want Denmark and Europe to suffer more?
Muslims imams are now calling for the heads of Flemming Rose and those responsible for the cartoons. He should immediately issue a sincere and public apology to the Muslim people. If he does not do so, I fear his life will be in danger.
Furthermore, if he continues to refuse to apologize, it only proves that his effort, which has lead to such hostility, was intentional all the way. If that is the case, he should be arrested and put in prison because he has been directly responsible for the insult he has caused millions of Muslims and the consequent damage he has caused to Denmark and the Danish people.
The damage to Denmark's image, prestige and economy is likely to be severe and long-lasting. Danish lives are clearly in danger.
As a religious scholar of high standing, Mr. Rothstein, you and other concerned citizens should urge the Queen of Denmark and Prime Minister Anders Fogh Rasmussen to issue an apology as soon as possible. Otherwise the crisis will only get worse and the relationship between Denmark and the Islamic world will never be repaired. Who could possibly want such an outcome?
Muslims have a strict code of honor and Denmark has committed a grave insult and affront against Islam - therefore, there is only one way out and that is to issue a sincere apology and ask for forgiveness - and then pray and work for peace.
The US government is no stranger to using falsely attributed paraphernalia to fan the flames of racial tension. During the Vietnam era civil rights struggle, the FBI mass mailed coloring books that were attributed to the Black Panthers. The books portrayed white people as pigs and encouraged blacks to violently attack and kill them. Primarily mailed to white neighborhoods, the books had the effect of turning middle class sentiment against the black rights movement and leading to support of enhanced authoritarian crackdown.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/images/february2006/080206fbibook.jpg
The feasibility of demonstrators in Gaza having immediate access to a plethora of pristine Danish flags as soon as the furore began has also been put under scrutiny.
A CNN International news anchor reported that the United Nations had foreknowledge that protests in Beirut were going to erupt on Sunday.
"ANTHONY MILLS, CNN INTERNATIONAL: My understanding is, as well, that UN sources were reporting this morning that this was going to be a chaotic day, if you will... Or, certainly they were reporting --they were suggesting -- their workers shouldn't go to work today."Link (http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/february2006/080206stagedpsyop.htm)
Another Russian MP Says Muslim Riots Were US Provocation (http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/february2006/130206usprovocation.htm)
See also 'Info. Dominance: The Philosophy of Total Propaganda Control?
(http://www.fuglyforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=6220)