821 google news results regarding the budget Google lied

[Joeslogic]

How by Hand picking a lying newspaper NewYork Times headline.

"Bush's $2.77 Trillion Budget Plan Calls for Medicare Cuts"

This is not entirely a new technique but not an old one either. They have been called out on it several times but that never gets published and the damage is done.

Millions of bumbling idiots go out and repeat that same lie for fact.

[diogenes]

Who cares, the amount he's spending is irrelevant. The fact of the matter is that Bush has no problem spending more than he's got. Debt financing is a bad idea for your personal life, and it's no way to run a government. Fuck Bush 1 & 2, and fuck Reagan. My generation gets to pay off a debt of money these fucks spent, so they could cut taxes in the name of "economic growth." Fucking morons. I'd like to see every politician that approves a budget that runs a deficit be thrown in jail. That's what they would do to me if I spent more than I made for about 30 years straight.

[Joeslogic]

My beef as usual is with the media's distortion of the truth using real examples. This technique has been used often for the last few years to distort the truth.

I the budget for government cat breeding was a dollar last year. And 10 million were proposed this year. That ten trillion were reduced to 5 million instead (still an obvious ridiculous amount) the headline would read
"Cat Breeding Program cut by the Bush administration by 5 million"
The ACLO (American Cat Lovers Association) would be in an uproar. And the solution to the great evil that is the current administration is. Vote Democrat.

Democrats the party of idiots.

[smurfslappa]

And what about the problems of the planet as a whole? Vote democrat to solve them?

What about the impending economic depression? Cry about the deficit we're running while this problem is looming? Idiots. We're screwed, mmmkay? Maybe you were crying about the deficit while the times were good, but I doubt it.

[Joeslogic]

Basically Smurf yes.

All our troubles and problems will be over when we simply elect democrats in office.

Old people will eat and live pain free.

Children will never be ill

If anyone is ill god forbid a superior medical system will taxi a doctor and team of surgeons to your home.

Everyone will have the job of there choosing at the pay they desire.

The world will be one of peace and harmony.

No world hunger will exist.

We will breathe clean air.

We will drink clean water.

We will be able to talk to the animals, just imagine it , chatting to a chimp or chimpanzee!

The global temperatures will stabilize.

All of Washington DC will be honest.

Criminals can be released back to there families from prisons and jails, because they just needed love anyways and now there will be plenty of that to go around.

[diogenes]

Are you familiar with how the google formula works Joe. They don't pick the headlines, it's based on links to other sites and stories. I think the only reason that New York Times story was the headline is because the New York Times probably had the most sites linking it as a reference, and the formula takes that heavily into account. It's not hand picked, it's merely popularity. And I say that everyone should ignore Smurf, maybe he'll go away. Or he'll starve for attention. Either way I'm fine.

[smurfslappa]

:shock: I'm voting Democrat!

[XerxesX]

I like that Slapper :D

[SoreVagina]

Basically Smurf yes.

All our troubles and problems will be over when we simply elect democrats in office.

Old people will eat and live pain free.

Children will never be ill

If anyone is ill god forbid a superior medical system will taxi a doctor and team of surgeons to your home.

Everyone will have the job of there choosing at the pay they desire.

The world will be one of peace and harmony.

No world hunger will exist.

We will breathe clean air.

We will drink clean water.

We will be able to talk to the animals, just imagine it , chatting to a chimp or chimpanzee!

The global temperatures will stabilize.

All of Washington DC will be honest.

Criminals can be released back to there families from prisons and jails, because they just needed love anyways and now there will be plenty of that to go around.

Yeah the Clinton years where really great, Except for the honest part.

[Joeslogic]

Ok true and I guess that it may be a little like smurf my self to assume there is a google conspiracy.

But that raises another concern the most popular hits are the ones that lie about the administration.

People read what they want to hear. They hear what they want to read. And there all stupid enough to believe the hype.

That’s scary.

[Joeslogic]

Yeah Grim I guess it could be looked at differently.

Depends on your definition of the "is"

We might not all interpret the word "is" the same way.

"Is" it true that you stopped masturbating all over the Whitehouse carpet?

"Is" it true that you no longer hump the leg of any unsuspecting bag lady that you manage to catch in a semi private situation?

What is the definition of the word is? It all depends.

:P

[smurfslappa]

The most popular hits being the ones that lie about the administration can be explained thusly: Most people are stupid. So it can be understood that most people who use the internet are stupid, and will do stupid searches looking for crap that they thought up while watching FOX News and thinking that it's lying to them. Those of us who are smarter, know what to look for.

I'm sorry diogenes, but you are not one of the smart.

[SoreVagina]

The most popular hits being the ones that lie about the administration can be explained thusly: Most people are stupid. So it can be understood that most people who use the internet are stupid, and will do stupid searches looking for crap that they thought up while watching FOX News and thinking that it's lying to them. Those of us who are smarter, know what to look for.

I'm sorry diogenes, but you are not one of the smart.

Uh are you saying that Fox News is telling the truth? Come on now really.

[smurfslappa]

No no no, I'm saying some dumbass who's been forked that shit their whole life finally gets up and does a search concerning some of the lies they've heard on there. So naturally their dumbasses to begin with, and then do a shitty search, and wind up finding more lies.

[smurfslappa]

sorry, they're instead of "their"

[diogenes]

Smurf said...


I'm sorry diogenes, but you are not one of the smart.

Coming from anyone else, that would be an insult. Coming from you smurf, that's merely a testament to my own mental stability that I have refused to buy into your bull-shit for anything more than entertainment purposes.

[smurfslappa]

And that is why you're dumb

[diogenes]

Very witty smurf, is it hard to type with one thumb in your mouth and the other one tickling your prostate?

[smurfslappa]

Not really, they're your mom's thumbs, not mine. It is distracting, though.

[diogenes]

you let my mom stick her thumb up your ass. That's gross dude, my mom is sixty and over-weight. Low standards are not a crime, but announcing them on an international forum is. Your mom jokes, you think I'm a fucking second grader or what, I used to think you were crazy, now I'm just starting to think that your stupid.

[Joeslogic]

Smurf :?


The most popular hits being the ones that lie about the administration can be explained thusly: Most people are stupid. So it can be understood that most people who use the internet are stupid, and will do stupid searches looking for crap that they thought up while watching FOX News and thinking that it's lying to them. Those of us who are smarter, know what to look for.


I'm not sure where you’re headed or coming from on that. My IE browsers home page is Google news. Ironically enough even though I do not entirely trust Google, they generally have a damn good search engine. And I think the internet crowd is actually better informed than your typical bonehead that gets all his information from TV. They would be the ones that drive the internet. Typically internet pools show a more educated view. This seems to be changing though since there is more quantity and more compelling disinformation on the net.

BTW my Firefox browsers home page is Yahoo. I do try to get some balance. But read Drudge Report at least once a day if I go online that day and here lately breitbart.com

Google just gives me a fairly accurate pulse on what sort of propaganda the world is consuming.

[Joeslogic]

Crap! I ment drive internet searches. -and- Typically internet polls.

[smurfslappa]

Diogenes, please do not make me completely and thoroughly own you with complete and concise scientific articles all linked together by yours truly on how strange atmospheric phenomenon coincide with awesome weather events worldwide, thusly making my point that our weather is going to shit.

At the same time, I'd also write a very complete article on why the economic depression is also almost here. I'd leave out my conspiracy bullshit, but I'll leave it up to you to decide if this all going down before 2012 and with our rich and colorful history is merely coincidence.

It would be a waste of my time, since I already know it. Being the bonehead you are though, I wouldn't consider it a complete waste of my time to hear what you guys would try to say about it.

Sadly though, it would be a long read and I know people on these forums tend to think *YAWN* when it comes to scientific or economic issues. If you promise not to do this, I'll actually write something up that is both highly enlightening and unlike my usual self.

[Joeslogic]

Smurf it seems that your perception of the level of influence your articles have on the general forum members is a touch off. You can pull from various corners of the internet all sorts of pieces of information to backup your "We fucked up now we got to pay" theory. It’s because that is what you look for so obviously that is what you will find. Most people understand that if they want to it’s a big world out there and a lot of information to cut and paste. I could do the same thing and probably bring up tons of information to support a theory that soybeans are the cause of all our worldly problems by way of introducing it into pig feed and causing a new harmful type of flatulence.

It has got to make sense and bring into account apposing theories as well as admit the weaker points of its own ideology. You take the whole scientific process of discovery and turn it on its ear all the while believing that you now "own" someone.

[smurfslappa]

I could do the same thing and probably bring up tons of information to support a theory that soybeans are the cause of all our worldly problems by way of introducing it into pig feed and causing a new harmful type of flatulence.

No you couldn't, and that's a stupid comparison anyways, since recorded supersurges in pig flatulence can't be linked to hundreds of thousands of air to ground lightning bolts across the Australian outback, but I would think an x-class solar flare and geomagnetic storm can, right? The difference between what I would do and whatever the hell your talking about is that you'd see the direct connection between these events and the earth. Then you'd understand how our weather and earth work. Then you'd stop and wonder why our weather is acting weird, and that it's not some stupid cycle shit because what the hell causes the cycle? What I'll be shoving in your face!

On top of that, you can find some articles to support how the economy is doing great. But then you'd be an idiot to believe them. The economy is doomed, and that can proven absolutely.

[Joeslogic]

Then you'd stop and wonder why our weather is acting weird, and that it's not some stupid cycle shit because what the hell causes the cycle?

Aww shit! ..... now I'm owned :(

[diogenes]

You need to get a job at the Weekly World News, you crazy fuck. Crazy lightning storms, those could be explained by, I don't know, the static electricity generated by currents in a dynamic fluid system. That sounds a lot like our atmosphere. Oh shit, that is how lightning occurs in our atmosphere. Silly me, and I thought I was gonna get owned. You really should get a job at the Weekly World News though, then you could "own" me with random factoids and stories about how George W. Bush is controlling the weather by using an alien that gets blown by an intern.

[smurfslappa]

WOW, hundreds of thousands of lightning bolts, air to ground... How the fuck does that kind of energy get built up you idiot? The awesome display of energy in this lightning storm can't be simply explained away by your idiot ass dynamic fluid model, because it doesn't compensate for external forces. At the same damn time you had awesome rolling fog that enveloped the Great nation of China, as well as awesome blizzards that blacked out europe and all sorts of sharks and whales beaching themselves.

Fucking knownothing. I'm going to enjoy typing that shit up, so your faggot ass can rain your wisdom and knowledge of our Earth you learned in highschool down on me thusly proving that these are mere coincidences. Bitch ass bitch.

[SoreVagina]

Well for one thing if its a cycle, The weathermen and all the ohers would have did a model by now comparing it to past models to find the cycle.

Since none of the models they have looks like anything on record this can not be called a cycle by what we define as a cycle.

Yes I agree that the earth is an old mud ball and this might have happened before at some point in time. But I doubt any human was on the planet at the time.

Hell for all we know Dino's got whiped out by the greenhouse effect from all the meth in there giant piles of shit. Anyone think of that one?

[smurfslappa]

Naw naw naw. If it is a cycle, then shits about to change, and shit changing sucks because we built up this 6.5 billion population on the assumption shit wouldn't change. What a stupid thing to do, since we'd only built it up in the past 100 years. The Earth's human carrying capacity will greatly diminish, and you know what that means... Oh yeah... raping and pillaging...

[SoreVagina]

Naw naw naw. If it is a cycle, then shits about to change, and shit changing sucks because we built up this 6.5 billion population on the assumption shit wouldn't change. What a stupid thing to do, since we'd only built it up in the past 100 years. The Earth's human carrying capacity will greatly diminish, and you know what that means... Oh yeah... raping and pillaging...

Assless chaps and guys with mohawks?

[smurfslappa]

Correction: Assless Chaps and guys with Gats.

[diogenes]

Not true Grim. The reason they are unable to develope accurate weather models is because there are too many variables to put in to get an accurate ourput. Think about this, you have a giant globe, surrounded by a fluid mass, that is heated by an external source, an internal source to a much smaller degree, with multiple surface textures, along with variations in composition, density, refractory indexes, etc.

When you heat air it moves, and in a simple system you can predict how it's going to move. The more complex the system, the less accurate the predictions become over time. That being said, think about how complicated the model I just put before you is. Do you honestly think anyone has the processing power to compute all of those variables, on a global scale. That would probably require thousands of peta-byte's just to calcute out to a day with 100% accuracy, not even mentioning the amount of information capacity required to run an accurate model years into the future. Do you see the problem now?

[smurfslappa]

Shut the fuck up douche. Ol' Benjamin Franklin was able to predict weather in his area pretty damn well. It was pretty much a pattern, didn't he predict it for the year? or years? I dunno, but I know he also predicted snow on the 4th of July and it happened in the northern areas. It was a joke, anyways, but hey it was predicted!

It's tougher to predict because the shits getting crazier, they can't even keep a weeklong forecast straight anymore. Plus you're forgetting the suns impact on our weather, which had it's cycles and was pretty steady but now it's not, somethings changed with it. Or maybe you didn't forget to include that because you're a dumbass ignorant douche.

[SoreVagina]

Smurf is very correct on the not being able to keep a week forcast correct.

Just this weekend they called for it too be around 38 degrees on Saturday. This was on the 10 oclock news Friday. The next day it was around 60.

Jan in my area this year felt like March, In fact this time last year we where having freak Ice Storms.

It does not take a very smart person to see something is a miss. From the Hurricanes to everything else.

We are in for a shit storm and it will not be pretty.

[smurfslappa]

For me, the idea of a creation is not conceivable without invoking the necessity of design. One cannot be exposed to the law and order of the universe without concluding that there must be design and purpose behind it all. In the world around us, we can behold the obvious manifestations of an ordered, structured plan or design. We can see the will of the species to live and propagate. And we are humbled by the powerful forces at work on a galactic scale, and the purposeful orderliness of nature that endows a tiny and ungainly seed with the ability to develop into a beautiful flower. The better we understand the intricacies of the universe and all it harbors, the more reason we have found to marvel at the inherent design upon which it is based.

Many men who are intelligent and of good faith say they cannot visualize a Designer. Well, can a physicist visualize an electron? The electron is materially inconceivable and yet it is so perfectly known through its effects that we use it to illuminate our cities, guide our airlines through the night skies and take the most accurate measurements. What strange rationale makes some physicists accept the inconceivable electrons as real while refusing to accept the reality of a Designer on the ground that they cannot conceive Him?

I am afraid that, although they really do not understand the electron either, they are ready to accept it because they managed to produce a rather clumsy mechanical model of it borrowed from rather limited experience in other fields, but they would not know how to begin building a model of a God.

[smurfslappa]

February over here is in the 80's. I'm getting ready to best out my swim trunks and go snorkeling before the depression hits and fucks with my mojo. 8)

[XerxesX]

Smurf-lapper wrote:
the idea of a creation is not conceivable without invoking the necessity of design. One cannot be exposed to the law and order of the universe without concluding that there must be design and purpose behind it all.

It is solved with chaosmath and those nice thingies on the net called fractals. With them as a model its possible to envision an creator without any design or plan.

Noticed how fractals recreate the same pattern on different levels. And society likewise. "Head of state" "Heart of the nation" "The long arm of the law" And our beloved "asshole" Hm :roll:

The Gaia-theory for instance :)

[smurfslappa]

I can't help that that's just the way things are. If you saw how something worked without knowing the specifics, you still would have a general idea. The same ol' patterns will always be found, and without being forced to otherwise, an unchecked, unlearned human race will always fall into the same patterns.

[XerxesX]

Now the "force" went the other way Smurf. The "force" seemed to be the bookburning and willfull denial of knowledge. Here it has turned. Are you opperating with two factors using "force" ?

[smurfslappa]

Oh, right. Well, I was talking about the Gods ruling over man, keeping us in check. When I talk about the force that is destroying us, I talk about those who the Gods have ordered to destroy us for betraying them, thinking we don't need them anymore and booting them off the planet in a Stargate like fashion. And in truth, maybe we had learned everything we needed to and didn't need them any longer. But with enough splashes and toastings and plagues, all true knowledge has been lost and we really don't know shit anymore.

I probably got marked for that.

[diogenes]

For a little while there you almost sounded rational smurf. I don't know about the rest of the shit you were saying, but the link between an electron as inconceivable concept and god as inconceivable concept is a good one. As far as the complexity of weather, a general idea is not an accurate model. I know that smurf is going to post something, and I have a good idea what. That's far from predicting with 100% accuracty exactly what he's going to post, and no one has ever been able to do that with the weather.

[smurfslappa]

True, but with predicting weather its a little different. What you basically said about me, when compared to the weather, translates to: "Weather will happen tomorrow..."

Predicting the weather is more like, "I think smurfslappa will say some shit about the weather, maybe throw in a little bit about the tsunami in the first paragraph. Then something about how we haven't had a winter will come into play, mix with a little bit about the economic depression, and blend into another end of the world argument. Better get out your bullshit umbrellas people, because we're in for a heck of a storm."

[diogenes]

Yeah, that's more or less what I was saying when I said I'll know you'll post something, and have a good idea what. But I never know exactly what you're going to say, or how long it's going to take you to say it, or how your going to phrase it. It's not irreducably complex, but it's too complex for me to predict with complete accuracy. Same with the weather.

[smurfslappa]

My god, your giving the weather too much credit, bro. Complete accuracy sure. But it still has its rules, like cold air headed towards warm moist clouds gives way to rain. It's predictable. The fact that's it's becoming less and less predictable gives rise to the thought that it's going crazy and not following it's usual patterns anymore. So my question is why?

[Joeslogic]

Barometric pressure, dew point, relative humidity, temperature. Were not those the variables I studied in school some 20 plus years ago? Did the formula for predicting rain change?

Dio there is no sense in arguing with Smurf.

He owns us you know.

[diogenes]

Because global weather patterns are infinitely more complex than just barometric pressure and dew points. I'm also talking about on a global scale, all of those things affect regional weather. You can't predict the weather in LA with the dew point in New York.

[Joeslogic]

I'm with you there but the formula is the same still and it was the same 30 years ago. And for that matter it will be the same 30 years from now. Replace the number 30 with whatever number you like. Predate NY and LA if you like.

Have you noticed Smurf has managed to turn most every post to an end of the world weather patter argument? I would not bother even going on about it.

[diogenes]

It's slightly frustrating though. You can't have a conversation without that ass forcing his bullshit about the end of the world into it. And every event he predicts marking the beginning of the end he's been wrong.

[SoreVagina]

It's slightly frustrating though. You can't have a conversation without that ass forcing his bullshit about the end of the world into it. And every event he predicts marking the beginning of the end he's been wrong.

Smurf is out there I will give you that, but he is a nice fellow. As far as the end of the world. The sign are there but its not a bible end or anything like that.

Its just an end to life as we know it today. Things are going to get a lot more rough.

[Joeslogic]

How rough is that I just bought a house with a nice pool and instead of waiting till may to take a dip maybe its looking more like late March or early April sounds great! Meanwhile the spa is nice.

[smurfslappa]

It'll be rough when the value of your house plummets because nobody wants one anymore, and you're out of a job because nobody wants you anymore.


Barometric pressure, dew point, relative humidity, temperature. Were not those the variables I studied in school some 20 plus years ago? Did the formula for predicting rain change?

Yeah, you forgot windspeed and direction. Ever watch a forecast? You see how the dude looks at a whole map of the U.S., then talks about how wind from up here(Canada) will come down here(Texas) and warm moist air from down here(Mexico) will collide and give us rain.

The global weather patterns are crapping out. The damn Amazon was getting a drought for a while there. The usual monsoons were showing up late in India. I wonder whats in store for those billion souls in India this year. It'd suck if they didn't come at all. Or if stronger typhoons destroyed too many crops in China. Or if the lungs of the damn world got hit with another, stronger drought. Or all of the above.

[DrBungle]

Millions of bumbling idiots go out and repeat that same lie for fact.

Yeah, that's what makes them idiots. They read one thing and stop looking for information. There's no cure for it, and you can't expect others not to take advantage of it.

[XerxesX]

It would be better if somebody offed more people. Would have to be bigger than the rate of wartime reproduction though. Yes the weather is changing.

Borrowing is smart. Better than bancrupcy, or being defeated by the arabs in arabia. The size of the military budgett lets the US continue its lead in the arms race. ( Dr.MicroNano & Ctp.Powerofsuggestion ).

And for that rainmaking by Smurfslappa

The Tezla-Reich tecknology cant make rain everywere. It needs the proper air humidity. Moving the airmasses countercurrent takes bigger machinery than they currently have. ( I need my pills now sister ).

[Joeslogic]

Doc wrote:
Joeslogic wrote:
Millions of bumbling idiots go out and repeat that same lie for fact.


Yeah, that's what makes them idiots. They read one thing and stop looking for information. There's no cure for it, and you can't expect others not to take advantage of it.

True but what pisses me of is what enables the millions of bumbling idiots to be duped like that. It's my main pet peeve the liberal media. They get a free ticket to put what ever out there and there is no real voice to counter there lie. The reason for this at least 85 percent of the media is extremely liberal and has an agenda. If you mention this fact the conversation invariably degrades to as Jerry Springer style retort of. Bull shit the media is extremely conservative! Then Fox News will be the next thing brought up of course.

[diogenes]

Well you know, General Electric and Disney are known for being such liberal companies. Fox News is even worse. I don't know who owns CBS. Maybe they're not liberal, they're just pandering to the masses so they can make money hand over fist and human interest stories are the ones that sell. Editors don't typically care about truth, they care about profits and problems.